Ruger Mag of DOOOOOOM!!!!!!


September 16, 2004, 09:12 PM
Hmmmmmm.......Looks tasty........

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September 16, 2004, 09:21 PM
Ooooh. I wonder if one could connect one of those to a bolt Ruger.

*Adds 10/22 to list of things to buy*
*adds this drum to list of things to buy*
*adds combination to list of things to bump fire :evil:*

September 16, 2004, 09:31 PM
Yeah. Put that on my Christmas list!

September 16, 2004, 09:37 PM
Wow. Nice use of 180 drums, though aren't they a bit costly? I know they work well feeding!

September 16, 2004, 11:38 PM
sign me up. I need something to make my 10/22 feel like an EBR (since I don't have the spare cash to buy one):D

September 16, 2004, 11:56 PM
Nice use of 180 drums, though aren't they a bit costly? ...hoping the little items of happiness like this will find new manufacturers... and better prices.

September 17, 2004, 12:09 AM
Now that looks like alot of fun!!!!!!

Guy L Johnson
September 17, 2004, 12:51 AM
"No honest man needs a gun like that"

Guy L Johnson

September 17, 2004, 01:32 AM
whats the price?

Greg L
September 17, 2004, 02:24 AM
Ya know, I've got one of those 10/22 gattling gun thingies that would just ROCK with a pair of them :evil: .

September 17, 2004, 05:23 AM
**** - i want one!!!

that would be a blast! (get it?)

i wonder tho - how many rounds till barrel meltdown?

cause you know you'd have to blow through at least ONE of these at LEAST once the first time... and i'm talking trigger pulls - not some funky twist the monkey in the trigger thing.. =)


September 17, 2004, 05:48 AM
Oh my. I'm planning on buying an R22 (which takes 10/22 mags) when it comes out. I may have to have one of these to go with it.

Doom indeed.

September 17, 2004, 07:20 AM
If you check the latest edition of SGN there is a new .22rf rifle thats belt fed on the market. If I remember tonight I'll update this post with the contact info.

FWIW :: It looks like a cross between a rising{sp} SMG and a PPsH.

September 17, 2004, 08:06 AM
Cybercop, post that link!!!!

Which issue of SGN? What page?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?



Henry Bowman
September 17, 2004, 09:13 AM
I may get flamed for this, but...

I'd like to see a disposable drum mag for popular .22LR models. So cheap it's disposable. Factory loaded during assembly. Non-refillable. Maybe hold a half or full brick and only cost a buck or two more than a bulk brick. Strickly for plinking due to cheap construction (thin plastic). If one occasionally breaks, you can still shoot the ammo like a bulk pack. I hate loading mags.

Don't tell me it can't be done. I witness American ingenuity every day. Don't say it's a waste - many, many would buy and enjoy them. Many would not. Sarah Brady would have a cow and it would immediatly be declared "the ammunition delivery system of choice for drug dealers and terrorists."

Any takers?

September 17, 2004, 10:06 AM
I need one of those mags for this:


September 17, 2004, 10:43 AM
That is something that I really need to get my hands on

Henry Bowman I love your idea.

September 17, 2004, 12:44 PM
Bowman, that is a great idea.

Now, I'm sitting here trying to wonder if they can do a similar idea with those 'speed loaders' for the tube magazine rifles, like the Marlin Mod 60.

September 17, 2004, 03:42 PM
With stuff like this available, I'm getting really really tempted to buy a 10/22.

(well, available or in the planning stages anyway)

September 17, 2004, 04:10 PM
Henry Bowman: nice idea! Maybe the magazine bodies could be made out of cardboard - or the same biodegradable plastic used in milk jugs, etc.

Anyway, I did some reading on the American 180 site, and found this:

Magazines: For improved reliabilty, there is a nw 165-round magazine, which is a slight decrease from the original 177-round model. It will accept both the .22 short magnum and .22 Long Rifle cartridges. Also available (optional) are low cost preloaded plastic magazines which are disposable after being emptied.


Henry Bowman
September 17, 2004, 04:35 PM
Well, Meowhead, good job! I guess my idea was not so unique after all. Any indication of cost?

Greg L
September 17, 2004, 06:33 PM

Drum- 165 Rounds $100.00
Drum- 220 Rounds $125.00
Drum- 275 Rounds $150.00

It looks like a loading tray would be useful as well - $35

Hmmmmm :evil:

September 17, 2004, 09:21 PM
Umm, if someone did attach one of those 275rd mags to a 10/22, wouldnt the device that keeps the mag in the gun possibly be damaged from the weight?

September 18, 2004, 08:27 PM
Duct tape, baby! :D

Henry Bowman
September 18, 2004, 11:03 PM
Thanks, Greg L. Way too pricy to be disposable. The needed innovation is to produce one cheap, cheap, cheap. I have some ideas, but nowhere near the skill to actually design it.

September 19, 2004, 01:19 AM
I'd like to see a return of the Calico helical magazines. It would be a lot less bulky.

September 19, 2004, 07:58 AM
A Lexan 275 round drum is shown. The translucent Lexan drum has the advantage over original metal American 180 drum in being able to see the number of rounds remaining in the drum.

Lexan drum are available in 165, 220, and 275 round configurations. These differ in their respective heights, and number of layers of ammunition they hold.
The 165 Lexan drum is 1 1/4" tall and holds three layers of ammuniation.
The 220 Lexan drum is 1 3/8" tall and holds four layers of ammuniation.
The 275 Lexan drum is 1 9/16" tall and holds five layers of ammunition.

The original 177 round American 180 drum is 1 1/16" tall and holds three layers of ammunition.

September 19, 2004, 08:01 AM
The American SAR 180/275 is the Semi-Automatic version of the American 180 submachine gun. It is available on a custom order basis from E&L Manufacturing, Inc. The suggested retail price is $995.
The American SAR 180/275 comes standard with walnut wood furniture, 165 round Lexan plastic drum, and instruction manual.

Greg L
September 19, 2004, 08:49 AM

I don't think that those are the disposable ones (I didn't find any mention on the site about those). With them talking about how much easier/faster it is to reload them with the optional loading tray I took that to mean that they were reusable. It's still an expensive hunk of plastic but not as bad as you thought (assuming that you can get out to the range every now & then & actually use the thing :rolleyes: :D ).

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