Md, NJ, or Indiana gun laws???


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Ship A'Hoy
September 17, 2004, 07:48 AM
For work reasons I may be moving to one of the these states; Md, NJ, or Indiana. I have a couple questions for the gun owners who live there now.

How difficult is it to get a CCW in each of these states?

Also I have 30 round mags for my M4 AR15 Bushy and 20 round mags for my FAL. Can I bring these mags into the state if I move there?

And last I have a few handguns but none with mags of more than 10 rounders. I have a SIG P220, P239, P229, P228, a Beretta 96, and a couple of Colt 1911's. Are any of these guns restricted in any of these states?

Thanks.

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Ric
September 17, 2004, 08:00 AM
I've had a CCW for about ten years now in Indiana and have had no problems with anyone. 25 bucks and a month to 6 weeks for renewal. Indiana has a LOT of people with CCW, something like 300,000

WT
September 17, 2004, 08:22 AM
In all probability you will not get a CCW in NJ.

You cannot bring in your 20 and 30 round mags. The limit is 15 round mags.

CatsDieNow
September 17, 2004, 08:27 AM
Seriously? :scrutiny:

Indiana would be the hands-down winner. You can even have class III weapons there. The other horses barely finish the race.

You can check Packing.org (http://www.packing.org) to be sure though.

Tamara
September 17, 2004, 08:45 AM
Indiana is the only one of the three I'd even consider, based on gun laws. If I were banished from God's Country and forced to be a *shudder* Yankee, IN, NH, or VT are the only places I'd go, other than that, it's the South or the West for me.

El Tejon
September 17, 2004, 08:58 AM
Ship, Indiana has the highest per capita issuance of CCWs, what we call, "License to Carry a Handgun." A LTCH is $25.00 here, no training or concealment requirement, good for 4 years, you may carry whatever pistol(s) you own.

There are no restrictions on the mags or weapons you reference other than federal restrictions.

Let us know when you get settled. We'll go shooting.:)

Girlwithagun
September 17, 2004, 09:00 AM
You can pretty much count out CCW in Maryland but no worries, we are gonna change this crazy state, eh Marylanders? ;)
But seriously, Indiana is the best choice out of those for gun rights. If you do find yourself in Maryland, send a PM this way. There is a good group of us who get together from time to time.

Spot77
September 17, 2004, 09:03 AM
MD = maximum 20 round mags on all firearms.
MD = no ccw (currently)
MD = liberal spankyrag politicians with nothing better to do than try to further the Communist cause.

Ship A'Hoy
September 17, 2004, 09:03 AM
Girlwithagun,

I like your signature!

geekWithA.45
September 17, 2004, 09:33 AM
Stay WAY out of NJ, unless you enjoy having your life and liberty held in institutionalized contempt by your state:

http://geekwitha45.blogspot.com/2004_09_05_geekwitha45_archive.html#109459294568130199

Justin
September 17, 2004, 10:31 AM
Having spent time in both Indiana and New Jersey I can tell you I'd much rather put up with humidity and bumpkins than oppression and bad traffic.

New Jersey has one thing going for it: It's near New York City, which is a fantastic place to visit*.

Allow me to offer the following illustration that should clearly paint a picture:

In Indiana you can own a machinegun.

In New Jersey you have to apply for a permit just to own an air gun.



*But I wouldn't want to live there.

Archangel
September 17, 2004, 10:54 AM
we are gonna change this crazy state, eh Marylanders?

Heck yeah.


As for mags, you can own anything you want, you just can't buy/sell/trade/transfer over 20 rounds in the state. But it is perfectly legal to drive up to a gunshow in PA and come back with the pallat of Beta C-mags that you happened to buy while there.

2nd Amendment
September 17, 2004, 11:17 AM
Well, I think it's been pretty well said, but Indiana by far. Concealed Carry is common and easy, you can own essentially whatever you want and, so long as you avoid the far north(and maybe Bloomington), the cops are as laid back as probably anywhere there is. Even Indy is actually pretty easy-going on the subject.

Oh, our humidity hasn't been as bad the past couple summers. Must be that global warming thing...

El Tejon
September 17, 2004, 11:29 AM
Justin, better humdity than being mauled by bears and pumas on your way to work everyday!:D We're just better shots out here, hard to shoot humidity, easy to shoot bears and pumas--front sight, press!

Humidity is good for the skin, cleans the pores.:D

Titus
September 17, 2004, 11:32 AM
If you're from Pittsburgh, and you like it there, you better move to Indiana! Unless it's Gary, IN, then I'd look at MD for about two seconds before I moved to Indiana anyway. :) I've lived in Pgh and Indiana (beautiful West Lafayette) and spent enough time in and around MD and NJ to know that even without the guns, I'd pick IN.

MAUSER88
September 17, 2004, 11:34 AM
There's a good reason we NJ people call NJ "Gun Owners Hell". No CCW, no prebans and mags over 15 rounds must be blocked. High property taxes, high car insurance, overcrowded. I could go on and on.

Jim K
September 17, 2004, 11:39 AM
If the move is work related, you might consider this. As you know, MD shares a border (the famous Mason-Dixon line) with PA, so if you are working near the PA border, live in PA and commute. There are many people in the Frederick and Hagerstown areas who do just that because PA taxes and living costs are lower. But one man I know lives in PA and commutes 30 miles to work solely because of the more reasonable gun and hunting laws.

Another alternative is to live in Virginia; the Arlington-Fairfax area is h*ll, but further west things are much better.

Jim

CatsDieNow
September 17, 2004, 02:13 PM
...so long as you avoid the far north...
Actually it's just Gary that is a problem - too close to Chicago.

Don't go near Gary unless you have to. :uhoh:

SodiumBenzoate
September 17, 2004, 03:54 PM
If I were banished from God's Country and forced to be a *shudder* Yankee, IN, NH, or VT are the only places I'd go, other than that, it's the South or the West for me.

Maine and Pennsylvania are pretty good, too. :p Ohio ain't bad, either.

Clandestine
September 17, 2004, 04:51 PM
I have a Permit to carry a Handgun in Maryland, but I wouldnt have got it without my job.

Cliff
September 17, 2004, 04:53 PM
What Girlwithagun,and Spott77 said. We ARE going to bring change in Maryland,but in the meantime,Indiana is the place to be for now.

ZeroX
September 17, 2004, 05:04 PM
Indiana, without a doubt. And we don't have that many bumpkins... :uhoh:

cordex
September 17, 2004, 05:12 PM
I'd go for Indiana, but that's just me.

Easy to get LTCH.
Can own Title II stuff as long as you follow the Fed restrictions.
No capacity regulations.

kudu
September 17, 2004, 05:27 PM
Indiana is pretty easy going. I got my carry permit when I turned 18. Damn, it' been almost 20 years now.:rolleyes:

If you decide on Indiana let us know where you are headed and we'll direct you to all the good shootin' spots and clubs.

Wolfy
September 17, 2004, 06:47 PM
Justin you hit the nail on the head with your anology.

Can anybody in free America imagine getting fingerprinted, mental background check, criminal background check, wait 45 days to one year and then have a Nics check done (paying the $15 for it of course).

Just to buy a BB gun!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And if you go out of state and bring one back and get caught with it is eithe a class 2/3 felony!!!!!!!!


We are allowed 15 round mags which sucks because because you aren't allowed to have any 20 rounders for AR's, M1A's, or the AK's. You are pretty much stuck with the 10 rounders.


Move to Indiana!!!!!!!!!

kwelz
September 17, 2004, 09:00 PM
I also recommend Indiana. We have a very good CCW program (oldest in the nation) And the highest Per Capita of CCW holders in the nation. The police are pretty laid back about it with a few obvious exceptions and we are about to elect a Republican Governor.

Permit take 25 bucks and about 4-6 weeks to get. I have never had a problem getting mine. We also have one of the largest Gun stores in the world in the southern part of the state. I consider us one of the best states in the Union :P

Stand_Watie
September 17, 2004, 09:48 PM
so long as you avoid the far north(and maybe Bloomington), the cops are as laid back as probably anywhere there is. Even Indy is actually pretty easy-going on the subject

My impression is that even the far north of Indiana is pretty gun friendly (and rural), excepting that little corner that borders the Chicago area and perhaps Fort Wayne proper. The cops there are going to be, I think, pretty standard representatives of heartland, corn-kingdom America. I remember how pleased I was a few years ago (living in Michigan at the time which was substantially less gun friendly) when a friend in Indiana explained their permitting system.

ZeroX
September 17, 2004, 09:57 PM
so long as you avoid the far north(and maybe Bloomington), the cops are as laid back as probably anywhere there is. Even Indy is actually pretty easy-going on the subject

:(

kudu
September 17, 2004, 10:03 PM
Fort Wayne isn't too bad, every place has their crying liberal gun haters. I would say South Bend is worse than Fort Wayne and the Gary area the worst of all because of it's position relative to Chicago. I am a bit closer to Fort Wayne than S. Bend, kinda out in the boomies the way I like it.

I can walk out my door day or night and shoot, although the deputy sheriff that just built down the road from me keeps me from doing to much at night but he's cool with shooters and if he hears shots from my house, he isn't going to worry about it.

nipprdog
September 17, 2004, 10:32 PM
another vote for IN.

good gun laws.

drawback, no daylight savings time.;)

YodaVader
September 18, 2004, 12:20 AM
In New Jersey you have to apply for a permit just to own an air gun.

:cuss: Unfreakin' believable! Did not realize how bad it has become in some parts of the country!

Having spent time in both Indiana and New Jersey I can tell you I'd much rather put up with humidity and bumpkins than oppression and bad traffic.

Been living in Indiana for almost 16 years now. The humidity can get bad at times but it does not last for weeks on end like it did when I lived in North Carolina! That was pretty serious humidity . at least compared to IN.

I moved here from NC and applied for a carry permit about a month afterwards - it was approved and I have owned a permit ever since.

2nd Amendment
September 18, 2004, 12:25 AM
Sorry ZeroX, but Bloomington IS somewhat...odd...sometimes...OK, a LOT of the time. ;) And I said "north" because I don't get up there very much and really don't know just how far the influence of Gary goes. I've heard some unpleasant stories, though.

RandyB
September 18, 2004, 12:37 AM
Indiana is great on CCP. Every adult in my family has one. Indiana is pretty gun friendly, especially in the southern end of the state.

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