Shipping a pistol in the USAF?


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angrywalkindude
September 17, 2004, 09:19 PM
My brother is in the Air Force and he just came back from Iraq. The problem is he didn't bring home the same pistol that he deployed with (armory screw up not his fault). He brought home somebody else's pistol instead. He has managed to locate his pistol but it's in CA and he is VA.

Does anyone know the best way to swap the guns? thx

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RRTX
September 17, 2004, 09:37 PM
I'm assuming this is his issue pistol, so it's going to have to go thru the proper supply channels to get back. They may not even swap, they may just update the serial numbers in the records to show what they have on hand. I'm suprised they let that happen actually, whenever we deployed/redeployed (Army), the serial #'s on everything were double and triple checked.

angrywalkindude
September 17, 2004, 10:04 PM
I'm assuming this is his issue pistol Yes, you're correct. He went to Iraq by himself and when he arrived he had to check his gun at the armory. The armory guy then had to re-issue the gun back to him (who knows why?). Anyway the armory guy screwed up and gave him someone else's pistol.

I'm surprised they let that happen actually, whenever we deployed/redeployed (Army), the serial #'s on everything were double and triple checked. He said it was a mad house over there, he even had to find his own way too Kuwait to catch his plane.

Redlg155
September 18, 2004, 09:40 AM
I was an Armorer in the Army for several years and I've never had that type of problem in my own arms room. All weapons issued were by weapon number and/or serial number.

I can however understand how something like this happened. When I got back stateside from the first Iraq(Desert Storm) they took our weapons from us once we got back to Ft Stewart and placed them in a combined arms room. This was done since we were the first flight back stateside and part of the advance party. Several units were in the same arms room, so you can see where a potential problem was already starting. When it was all done and sorted out, a unit came up short a couple of Berettas. So yes, it is possible.

His best bet is to contact his chain of command and let them deal with the headache. At the same time they may try to hold him at fault a bit since he should have double checked the serial number of his issue weapon.

Good Shooting
Red

Rob62
September 18, 2004, 09:51 PM
DO NOT try to resolve this issue without involving the persons chain of command as has been suggested.

Having spend 20 years in the Army I'm somewhat familiar with the rules and regulations involving firearms. I believe there would be numerous policies violated if the involved individuals tried to work this out themselfs.

Have your brother "suck it up" and let his first line superviser know what happened ASAP, and accept any possible punishment, most likely a counseling statement IMO. Unless the chain of command really doesn't like him.

Regards,
Rob

angrywalkindude
September 18, 2004, 11:25 PM
DO NOT try to resolve this issue without involving the persons chain of command as has been suggested. I will let him know ASAP. Thx for the advice.

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