Has anyone here kept the factory stock on their Savage?


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Drjones
September 20, 2004, 12:16 PM
From all the reading I've done, it seems as if Savage factory stocks are the most god-awful things on the face of the planet and that it simply MUST be restocked before it will be acceptable.

Does anyone have the factory stock on their Savage that they shoot regularly?

I find it hard to believe that a maker of such relatively fine rifles ships their products with a stock that is THAT bad.

For competition and the like, I can understand needing a new stock, even with a finer rifle like a Rem or Win.

I just find it hard to believe that if I buy a Savage 10FP like I'm considering, that I'll have to restock it before I can hit the broad side of a barn with it.


Your thoughts please...

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gdragon34
September 20, 2004, 12:35 PM
I have the factory stock on my 12BVSS in 22-250. The pillar bedding was useless but I sanded it down and glass bedded it. It's a great shooting gun.

Drjones
September 20, 2004, 12:47 PM
What is "glass bedding"?

Thanks

gdragon34
September 20, 2004, 12:53 PM
Do a search on here, that was what I did. Brownell's Acraglas Gel is the product most often used.

It mates your action exactly to your stock to improve accuracy and reduce environmental influences.

Nando Aqui
September 20, 2004, 12:58 PM
Granted, I have just started using it, but I have no plans to change the stock on my Savage 112BVSS 30-06. I believe the bedding on these is much better... time will tell.

BTW, the AccuTrigger is GREAT!!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/bonifacio7/Savage112-05.jpg

moredes
September 20, 2004, 02:10 PM
I've got a bone-stock 10FP. With a Trashco SS 10x, I'm getting .3 MOA with handloads. I'd like to get a nicer stock simply because I'm used to more of a pistol grip, but the poor regard the sniper-wannabes and benchresters have for the OEM stock is undeserved in my opinion; then again, I don't use this rifle except for recreation, so I don't notice any faults.

Bedding matches the contour of the action perfectly with the stock; basically, it mates the two, action and stock, (not action, barrel, and stock) so that there is no movement during firing.

Drjones
September 20, 2004, 02:17 PM
Thanks, moredes.

I understand what bedding is, but am confused by the term "glass."

You don't actually put glass under the action and bbl, right? ;)

R.H. Lee
September 20, 2004, 02:20 PM
It means fiberglass. I've still got the original stock on my 10-fp, but a replacement is on the to-do list. I tried to mount a bipod on it, but the original stock is too whippy.

ocabj
September 20, 2004, 02:31 PM
You don't *have* to upgrade the cheapo synthetic stock on a Savage. While I ended up buying a McMillan A-5, I didn't necessarily *need* to. I'm not a special operator or law enforcement sniper so I don't really *need* a rugged McMillan stock for field use. But I did *want* a better stock on my Savage.

The factory stock performs well enough while at the range and I'm sure it's good enough for hunting. But if you want a competition or military/leo rifle, then you'll probably want to an aftermarket stock.

Badger Arms
September 20, 2004, 02:35 PM
My 358 Winchester model 10 still has a factory stock on it. It's the plastic stock. Works fine for me, but this is a utility rifle too.

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=1248750

Ash
September 20, 2004, 03:13 PM
My synthetic/plastic stock worked just fine on my Savage 110FP. My current Savage 111C and 110 both have original stocks and are very accurate. Why should I change if I'm already getting great results?

Ash

steelhead
September 20, 2004, 11:27 PM
I'm still using the original synthetic stock on my .308 10FLP. @ 100 yards, 5 shot groups run about .6-.8 inches depending on the load. @ 300 yards, 5 shot groups are running 2.25-3.1 inches. Haven't shot past 300, so I don't know what it will do further out.

moredes
September 20, 2004, 11:50 PM
Also, if you're set on an alternate stock, move up a grade and get a Savage in the LE version; it'll come OEM with a McMillan stock. They're worthy of everything good you've ever heard about them.

Drjones
September 21, 2004, 02:01 AM
Moredes:

I'm not "set" on an aftermarket stock, I just want to do it right the first time.

I think that the factory Savage stock will do me well for a while, but I may need to upgrade it if I get that serious about precision shooting.

I'd probably rather just do it now and be done with it, ya know? :)

Drjones
September 21, 2004, 02:04 AM
Also:

I handled a friend's Remmy 700 PSS (I think that's the model) the other day.

This is all I could do and say: :what: :what: :what:


That and a whole lot of "hey, look over there!" But the darn thing was so heavy that he'd turn back around before I could make it to my car with the thing. :D :D :D

Seriously, I think it had the H&S Precision stock (which would make it the 700 PSS) and the fit and finish overall was like it would be in my dreams. :)

swingset
September 21, 2004, 04:35 AM
My 12FV shot so good out of the box I was honestly afraid of screwing it up with a new stock. Granted, the factory one was ugly and not the most pleasing ergonomically, but when I can shoot 3/8" groups all day, there's not much to be gained by throwing money at the gun. What I did do, seeing as this was to be a coyote gun, was to give it a night-camo job. Not quite as hideous as it was....

http://home.alltel.net/swingset/Gallery_Guns/images/12FV_Camo.jpg
It now wears a Night Owl NVS18 night vision scope, but otherwise is the same.

nipprdog
September 21, 2004, 07:06 AM
tips on firming the stock.

http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=63264

hksw
September 21, 2004, 12:03 PM
I still have the 'factory' stock on mine. The Savage I have came with the McMillan A3.

No need to go with the regular Savage stock if you don't (think you'll) like it. The 10FP can be had with a Choate Varmint stock (LE model with 'A' suffix)

http://www.savagearms.com/images/centerfire/lawenf/10FP-LE2A.jpg

or the McMillan (LE model with 'B' suffix).

http://www.savagearms.com/images/centerfire/lawenf/new_10FP-LE2.jpg

You'll pay a little more up front but less if you bought the regular Savage stocked 10FP and re-stocked with either of the two in the upper grade models.

mcmoyer
September 21, 2004, 12:44 PM
I have a Savage 110E Series K .30-06 that has the original stock. I bought it off a friend in 1980 or so & I like it just fine.

:D

kimbernut
September 21, 2004, 02:55 PM
I'm with you! ___All these guys must be talking of the black synthetic stocks____ 'cause there is not a finer stock than their Laminated stock on the 112BVSS.My son's is in .308 and .5 MOA is not at all unusual.

ShootAndHunt
September 21, 2004, 04:37 PM
I got a question. The synthetic stock on the Savage 10FP really looks so so, but if it getsthe job done, it should be fine.

However, last time when I handled a 10FP in the gunstore, the stock is so weak and whippy
that I could easily push the stock to contact the free floated barrel. This worries me a lot, since I want to use the Harris bipod on this kind of rifle. When using a bipod, this stock seems to me not strong enough to avoid the contact whith the barrel, and this, IMHO, will affect the accuracy. In fact, any force on the forearm of this rifle might make the stock to contact the barrel, which is supposed free-floating.

Could you guys still using the original stock tell us some of your experience about this?

ShootAndHunt
September 21, 2004, 05:03 PM
and what is the difference between Savage 10FP and 12FV in .308, it seems to me that only two differences:

1. matt blued action VS blued action

2. No third swivel studs on 12FV.

Any other diffecences I don't know?:confused:

nipprdog
September 21, 2004, 05:47 PM
Any other diffecences I don't know?
bolt on 12 is SS.

bolt on 10 is black.

steelhead
September 21, 2004, 06:09 PM
Also 6 inches difference between barrels and .5 pound in weight.

I can still get MOA @ 100 and 200 yards with a harris and the original stock.

steelhead
September 21, 2004, 06:09 PM
Whoops.... double tap.

nipprdog
September 21, 2004, 07:16 PM
Also 6 inches difference between barrels and .5 pound in weight.

depends on model.

12FV--26"

10FPLE1--20"

10FPLE2--26".

admar2
September 21, 2004, 08:39 PM
I won't be changing out my stock when I get my new Savage.

however I ordered the LE2B, which comes with a McMillan stock ;)



should be in tommorrow or thursday.

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