AR-10T differences
XYZsniper
February 22, 2003, 02:29 PM
I'm looking at getting my next battle rifle. Already have the M1A and AR-15 and would like a nice AR-10T. The Armalite rifle seems to go in the neighborhood of $2k new and have been shopping with this in the back of my mind.
Then I find a gentleman who has an Eagle Arms AR-10T...what are the major differences in quality and materials with the 2 models? I realize they're both made by Armalite but not sure what an Eagle Arms version of the T should cost.
Thanks!
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AR-10
February 22, 2003, 03:03 PM
One difference between the Armalite model and the Eagle Arms model is the warranty. Lifetime for Armalite, one year for E.A. When looking at the Target model, that may be the only difference.
Does the lower have an Armalite two stage trigger, or the standard factory trigger? The two stage trigger lists for $180.00 if you have to add it later.
Does it come with the Factory scope mount? If you have to buy that seperate it will run around $90.00.
Both of these items come standard with the Armalite T. Not sure if they are included with the E.A.
I cannot comment on the quality of Eagle Arms from experience, but that won't stop me now. I have never read on the net complaints regarding Eagle Arms products. The workmanship seems to be at the same quality level as the Armalites. The resale value will be better on the Armalite, because of warranty and name recognition. Not sure what the asking price on the rifle you are looking at should be.
AR-10
February 22, 2003, 03:45 PM
Now that I look around a bit, I am not sure that Armalite provides a scope mount with their AR-10 models any more. Their web site does not clearly give that information.
The Eagle Arms Match upper has a different barrel, Chrome Molly as compared to Stainless Steel. Looks like the E.A. Match lower comes with a standard trigger.
The rifle you are looking at may be a complete factory rifle, or it might be an E.A. lower and an Armalite T upper. Something to check into.
Here (http://www.eagle-arms.com/index-old1.htm) is a link to Eagle Arms.
Here (http://www.armalite.com/index-old.htm) is a link to Armalite.
Here (http://www.gunblast.com/Eagle_AR10.htm) is a link to a review of the E.A. AR-10T.(Think it is called a Match model)
Stripling Warrior
February 24, 2003, 12:39 AM
I have a AR10tnc (tactical Navy Cabrine). It is the AR10T only it has a 16" barrel. It will hold 1/2 groups @ 100 and 5" @500 yards.
I have other rifles but the seem to just stay in the safe these days. The AR10 gets all the use. It is just fun to shoot.
:D
Stripling Warrior
voilsb
February 24, 2003, 12:50 AM
another difference is that the armalite will have a chromed chamber and bore, and the eagle one won't have a chromed bore, and *might* have a chromed chamber ... not sure about the chamber.
Bottom Gun
February 24, 2003, 02:55 PM
The warranty isn't an issue when it comes to resale value because it doesn't apply. It only applies to the original owner. The use of handloads invalidates it as well.
The warranty isn't a strong selling point with me since it doesn't transfer and has a few loopholes.
I asked a question about the warranty on AR-15.com and one of the guys there scanned and posted it if you want to read it.
I've been researching these rifles myself for the last couple of months and plan to buy one in the next week or two. The best I can determine, the Eagle lowers are identical to Armalite except for the marking and the Eagle barrels aren't chrome lined. They are available in stainless though and they're available without those darned muzzle brakes.
FWIW, some of the guys at AR-15.com have been having trouble with the Armalite 2 stage triggers in their AR-10's.
AR-10
February 24, 2003, 09:04 PM
Chrome lined barrels are not an option. The AR-10T does not come with that type of barrel. It comes with a 24" stainless steel barrel with no brake.
The Eagle Arms Match upper comes with a 24" chrome molly barrel with no brake.
You have to decide which barrel is better, SS or CM, and I know nothing about that subject.
Warranty might get to be an issue if you own the rifle very long. I like my lifetime warranty.
My Ar-10 A-4 is chrome line, which is why I bought it. It is more acurate than I'll ever be able to shoot, so spending more money on a T model would be a waste for me. I'd like to trade the brake for an honest to goodness flash hider, but that is not possible. The brake does make it very enjoyable to shoot, as long as you have hearing protection. A better single stage trigger is really the only modification I will be making. Acuracy Speaks gets the most recomendations.
An A2 carbine upper is on the list wish as well.
Bottom Gun
February 25, 2003, 05:07 PM
I looked on the Accuracy Speaks and didn't see any triggers for the AR-10. They aren't the same as the AR-15 triggers are they? I haven't had a chance to compare the two yet.
Can someone recommend a decent trigger for an AR-10? I need one because last night I picked up an Eagle Arms A4 with a stainless barrel WITHOUT that cursed muzzle brake.
It appears to be a well made rifle only it should come complete with a fence stretcher for pulling the factory trigger. ;)
AR-10
February 25, 2003, 05:55 PM
My understanding is that if you contact Accuracy Speaks and let them know you wish to install a trigger similar to what they offer for the AR-15, they will fix you up.
Bottom Gun
February 25, 2003, 10:49 PM
Thanks, AR-10, I'll give them a call. They're right here in Arizona. Very handy.
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