Man Shoots Wife, Mistaking Her For A Monkey


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ZeroX
September 22, 2004, 06:00 PM
http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsPackageArticle.jhtml?type=worldNews&storyID=588191&section=news

Man shoots wife in "monkey accident"
Wed 22 September, 2004 01:43

KUALA LUMPUR (Reuters) - A Malaysian man shot his wife dead after he mistook her for a monkey picking fruit in a tree behind their house, the New Straits Times has reported.

The man, 70, is being held by police for causing death through recklessness after he fired a shotgun at what he thought was a monkey in a mangosteen tree on Monday, the newspaper said on Wednesday.

His wife, 68, had used a ladder to climb into the tree and was picking the tropical fruit when she was shot.

She was pronounced dead on arrival at hospital, the paper said. The couple lived in central Malaysia and had raised 13 children.



Must've been the biggest monkey he'd ever seen? :confused:

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WhiteKnight
September 22, 2004, 06:06 PM
This shouldn't be funny, but I can't stop snickering at the title of this post. I guess it's because of my US bias because we don't [usually] have monkeys here in America and thus the title seems a little ludicrous.

ZeroX
September 22, 2004, 06:11 PM
This shouldn't be funny, but I can't stop snickering at the title of this post.

Yeah...

Matt G
September 22, 2004, 06:15 PM
A man killed his wife of many years, whom he had 13 children with, by a mistake in target identification.


It's actually one of the sadder things I've heard today. :(


"RULE IV: BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET"

From Jeff Cooper's "The Four Rules Of Firearm Safety." (http://www.thefiringline.com/Misc/safetyrules.html)

R.H. Lee
September 22, 2004, 06:29 PM
That's his story and he's stickin' to it.

pax
September 22, 2004, 06:41 PM
Matt is absolutely correct.

But see my sig. The Colonel makes a good point, too.

pax

We hear from Namibia that a German tourist's holiday down there came to an end when he was mistaken for a baboon and shot by a local farmer. If this poor fellow looked enough like a baboon to be mistaken for one, he may be better off dead. – Col. Jeff Cooper

joe sixpack
September 22, 2004, 06:48 PM
Indeed, this is very tragic, and I feel sorry for the husband's family.


It's a lesson for us all, if you own firearms do not marry people who look like monkeys least you mistake them for unwelcomed pests and shoot
them.

cheers, ab

Daniel T
September 22, 2004, 07:34 PM
I'm thinking that the accident was less the wife looking like a monkey (though that is a possibility), and more the old man being senile.

TallPine
September 22, 2004, 07:47 PM
I could never mistake my wife for a monkey.

An elephant, maybe - but not a monkey.

:D

WhiteKnight
September 22, 2004, 07:53 PM
An elephant, maybe - but not a monkey.

:what:

I'm guessing you're computer isn't in the middle of the living room :p

Redlg155
September 22, 2004, 08:25 PM
It is very possible if you've ever seen a mango tree. Those can get pretty dense and I'm sure he wasn't expecting his 68 year old wife to be up there picking fruit.

It's a pretty sad story. Especially since the cops are on him about the shooting. It seems they would let his greif be his punishment.


Good Shooting
Red

rick_reno
September 22, 2004, 08:28 PM
I used to work in Penang, Malaysia - there were many times I wished I had access to a shotgun. The monkeys steal anything they can get their paws on and take the object high into the trees where it's unlikely you'll see it again. Set anything down on the beach or a park bench and the probability that it'll be gone into the canopy is high. The ones that have a lot of human contact are very agressive, I've had them try and take friut out of my hand more than once. They aren't the cute little creatures that sit around on rocks and masturbate that you see in a zoo here - they're a menace.

Atticus
September 22, 2004, 08:55 PM
After reading this thread....I feel like I'm trying to supress a nervous snicker at a funeral.
Rick - our city parks have some monkeys like you describe.

El Tejon
September 22, 2004, 09:07 PM
Too think someone actually set up to do the right thing--shoot wildlife--and did not post a poll on THR about which gun to use!:D

"Which gun for monkey bears?"

Sam Adams
September 22, 2004, 09:35 PM
I could never mistake my wife for a monkey

An elephant, maybe - but not a monkey.


You should be very careful - you might be the next one shot by a spouse claiming that you looked like an animal...in this case, the male hairy-backed, feeble-minded North American Hominid (A.K.A. the Major League http://wavcentral.com/cgi-bin/log/log.cgi?id=2902&sound=/sounds/movies/AFishCalledWanda/a_hole.mp3). :neener:

Double Naught Spy
September 22, 2004, 10:46 PM
Yep, it could happen to anybody. If you don't marry a monkey, then you should not confuse your spouse with being a monkey.

Last I checked, people were much larger than the monkeys in that part of the world. Maybe he thought it was a giant monkey?

My wife asked, "What was a 68 year old woman doing up in a tree?" The article said, but it sounded hokey. Yes, we realize people in other parts of the world often continue to perform tasks no matter what their ages.

pahrumpcaveman
September 22, 2004, 11:58 PM
I could never mistake my wife for a monkey.

An elephant, maybe - but not a monkey. LLLLLLLLOOOOOOOLLLLLLLOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLOOOO That is one of the funniest lines I have seen on this board . I'm laughing so hard I can barely type .. Ohhhh you better hope she never sees that one dude . You will be the first victim of a bayoneting since the ban lifted . lolololol
:D :D :D

JohnKSa
September 23, 2004, 01:32 AM
I guess it's not uncommon for Malaysian monkeys to use ladders when they climb trees... :confused:

JohnKSa
September 23, 2004, 01:36 AM
duplicate...

I waited over 10 minutes for the first post to go through. Then I cancelled it (I thought) and went back to the thread again. My post didn't show. So I repeated the entire process. Same deal--after another 10 minutes or so, I bailed out of the window and went back to the post to find two of them.... irritating.

Edward429451
September 23, 2004, 02:10 AM
Old guy, probable failing eyesight? Wife decides on impulse to go pick fruit when he's out front, ladder on far side of tree maybe? He probably just seen movement in the tree and knew it was a monkey cause they're all over the place down there, right?

Is tragic but there's a good lesson there for us. Be honest with yourself about target identification and your eyesight. Even if you 'know' its a deer or whatever, behind that bush that you can't actually see but know it's there, it's better to stay the shot with the realization that tragedies do happen. Much preferable to be positive, even if it means waiting to eat IMO.

Moonclips
September 23, 2004, 10:33 AM
68-year-old woman? Up on a mangosteen tree, swinging from branch to branch, lithe and agile as a monkey? Man, she could have lived another 100 years if she wasn't shot!

Moonclips
September 23, 2004, 10:36 AM
68-year-old woman? Up on a mangosteen tree, swinging from branch to branch, lithe and agile as a monkey? Man, she could have lived another 100 years if she wasn't shot!

standingbear
September 23, 2004, 10:45 PM
Id imagine the folks there get kinda tired of monkeys tearing things up and being annoying little pests.

444
September 23, 2004, 10:54 PM
This thread is a true classic.

cracked butt
September 24, 2004, 12:32 AM
In my local newspaper they have a little secton called something like "earth watch" every week that describes natural happenings around the world- usually earthquakes, typhoons, draughts, and sometimes, especially in that part of the world, monkey invasions. The monkeys litterally form packs and raid villages, biting people, breaking into peoples homes, and they know where to look for food and how to get to it.

It would litterally be my dream to look out into my backyard and see 100 monkeys running across the field toward my house, but as with anything else, target identification is very important.

What gun do you use? I'd be torn between a .17 HMR autoloader and an sks.

wasrjoe
September 24, 2004, 12:44 AM
What gun do you use? I'd be torn between a .17 HMR autoloader and an sks.

AR-15. Rename it from "Poodleshooter" to "monkeyshooter".

The_Antibubba
September 24, 2004, 03:58 AM
...but it was his prime mate!


:D

BluesBear
September 24, 2004, 07:51 AM
but it was his prime mate! EWWWWWW

We have a winna!
Bad pun of the week.

carpettbaggerr
September 24, 2004, 02:15 PM
Pax, that's too funny. Now I've got to get out his Commentaries again....

horge
September 24, 2004, 03:56 PM
I call BS.
At the very least, Reuters has reported a total screwup of details.


1. Since when were Malaysians allowed to own shotguns? Sure, maybe this old guy hid a long gun from the early 70's, or hehe, from before Malaysia effectively seceded from what would become Indonesia in 1957. But, the story makes it sound like potting at monkeys was a regular thing. That would have called attention to the gun--and where'd he get ammo for all that? Just illegally owning a .22LR cartridge can get you the death penalty.

2. A 68-year old woman going up on a low branch to collect fruit is not that unbelievable. Out in the sticks, Malays/Austronesians can be a pretty tough sort. However, a mangosteen tree might be a little tough to climb.

3. A mango tree, maybe --some of those suckers can have low branches, and fruit low enough to reach from the ground. A mangosteen tree is much taller in aspect: for it to support the weight of even a small person, it would have been pretty hefty and high.

3. A monkey? Those are pretty small --as in '2 year old child' small, at most. Granted, the old man may have heard a mere rustling in the leaves and then took a shot. But come on...

:scrutiny:


cb,
A good gun for monkeys (think Rhesus) is .22LR if you sneak up on them, otherwise a shotgun and birdshot migh be better. Best of all would be a baited trap.

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