...the other day. I knew something about the fact that your gun is supposed to be visible while in the car but concealed when out of the car, which must be a trick in itself.
My first stop in Ohio was one of the turnpike rest stops for gas and food.
I put my gun in my pocket and pumped my gas. Went to the little booth to pay only to find a 'CCW not wanted' sign at the door. I had to decide wha to do next. Do i drive off with out paying? Open the door and throw my money at the clerk? Yell at her to come and get the money if you want it? Take off my gun and put it in the trunk for a 5 second visit to the clerk (and possibly freak out other travelers if they see what I'm doing)? Leave it in the car (not a good idea if I had kids)?
After making my decision on paying for the gas I went inside to get some food. Guess what? Same sign, same decisions to make.
I made life easier for myself on the way back. I gassed up in PA just before the border and drove through Ohio with out stopping or spending any money.
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September 25, 2004, 11:57 AM
It is a pretty brain-dead law, yes.
Also, don't blame the businesses at the Turnpike rest-stops. They are renting space in a government building. It is no-CCW, per the law. They don't have a choice. FYI, same goes for rest-area bathrooms. :rolleyes:
If you CCW and drive in Ohio, you have to do some pretty silly things. A lot of people have been buying thigh holsters and strapping them to their leg to get around the 'plainly visible' restriction, then slipping the gun into a IWB holster and tossing off the thigh rig. Another option is locking it in the glove box (which at least partially defeats the whole point, no?).
I'm sure this is making everyone safer, since you have to inform a trooper anyway that you are a CCW holder. How hard is this? "I'm a ccw holder, the gun is in my waistband." Yeah, ok. but they might not pony up the 411, you say. Ok, they'll withold the information, but they'll still carry in the open so you can see it? Right.
September 25, 2004, 11:59 AM
Also, I'll just assume that you have a CCW permit in a reciprocal state. ;)
September 25, 2004, 12:48 PM
Open carry's still legal, isn't it? I don't think it has to be concealed if you're out of the car.
September 25, 2004, 01:02 PM
Open carry is still legal, yes.
September 25, 2004, 03:05 PM
Yup, pretty assinine, particularly when they didn't bother to "define" in plain view.
I drive a 2002 Ram 1500 Quad cab, farily big, tall truck. If I have my gun in a holster on my belt, even with nothing covering it the only way it's "in plain view" is if you step up onto my step tubes and stick your head in my window ! All because of the moronic anti-gunners.
September 25, 2004, 03:18 PM
I gassed up in PA just before the border and drove through Ohio with out stopping or spending any money.
From the sound of it, Ohio doesn't want your dollars, anyway.
September 25, 2004, 05:15 PM
Also, I'll just assume that you have a CCW permit in a reciprocal state.
Yes I do. Michigan. The only benefit that Ohio got out of their 'exposed when in the car' law was me driving the speed limit. I had no interest in meeting up with one of their troopers and finding out how he interprted the law.
Women must see the no carry in the restrooms as a 'rape me' law. I feel sorry for the woman traveling alone down the turnpike at 3 in the morning.
She must decide between obeying the law and self protection.
September 26, 2004, 04:11 PM
Ohio would not get my tourist dollars. Plain and simple.
Just like Alabama until this year! :p
September 26, 2004, 07:56 PM
Whine...whine ...whine...Ohio CCW is great...as long as you have a car rig like this....and don't have to stop anywhere. ]:neener: :banghead: :fire: