Resting condition of your semi-auto's?


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Marshall
September 25, 2004, 05:10 PM
The semi auto's laying around your house and not in a safe, what condition are they in?

Cocked and locked?

Chambered hammer down?

Chambered/cocked DAO

Mag inserted chamber empty?

Empty?

Locked open?

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pbhome71
September 25, 2004, 05:46 PM
It is either on me in cocked and locked, or in my safe "cleared".

Nothing lying around the house.

Marshall
September 25, 2004, 05:54 PM
So I guess this doesn't apply to you does it. ;)

DMK
September 25, 2004, 06:10 PM
Once in a while, if I'm not actually carrying on person, I'll have a gun out, within arms reach, if I'm working in the garage or maybe reading a book for instance. Usually a 1911 and it will have a mag inserted, hammer down, chamber empty.

I always keep a 1911 sitting in my safe like that as well.

There are no kids in my house though.

Climb14er
September 25, 2004, 06:44 PM
Always cocked and lockeds for 1911's, loaded chamber and decocked for Sig DA/SA's, and always loaded in all chambers for revolvers. There are no kids left in the house.

Black Majik
September 25, 2004, 06:57 PM
I'll have a 1911 around for HD. If its in the open its arms reach.

Full magazine, hammer down, empty chamber.

I'll carry it Cond. 1 if I go outside to get mail or some or other. There be coyotes howlin' at the moon lately.

... or is it werewolves....? ;)

Mr. Chitlin
September 25, 2004, 06:57 PM
My Glock 22 has one in the tube and 15 in the mag.

All the guns in the safe have full mags, empty chambers.

Hkmp5sd
September 25, 2004, 07:16 PM
ALL autoloaders, whether inside the safe or laying around the house, have a full magazine, round chambered and safety off.

Lord Bodak
September 25, 2004, 07:16 PM
The semi-auto centerfires are stored with a mag inserted, decocked, chamber empty. The .22 is unloaded, as are the rifles.

Graystar
September 25, 2004, 07:24 PM
My Glock 17 has one in the chamber, ready to go.

Personally, I feel that if your defense gun isn't chambered, cocked, and with the safety off (if applicable) then make sure your gun is heavy because when the moment of truth comes you're going to be so pumped that you're gonna forget to load/cock/release and all you'll have time for is to hit the guy with it!

ksnecktieman
September 25, 2004, 07:33 PM
Chamber loaded, all guns, in or out of the safe, safety on if required, not for beretta 92s and none on either keltec.

Safety feature, I will never doubt,,,,,,, "ALL guns are ALWAYS loaded"

cslinger
September 25, 2004, 07:42 PM
Let's just say breaking into the slinger household would be a poor choice and leave it at that shall we.:scrutiny:

ddj8052
September 26, 2004, 12:05 AM
In my "Speed Safe" I have a Kimber TLE/RL loaded with a round in the chamber and safey on. Also in the safe there is a Kimber 25th Ann. With a full mag an no round in the chamber. All the rest of my autos are stored empty hammer down.

Sylvilagus Aquaticus
September 26, 2004, 12:25 AM
Why? You planning to come over? :D

My SIG is in normal condition, one in the pipe, full compliment in the mag, hammer in the normal down/ready position.

Everything else is either in the safe or in its' secured/ready location, full mag, Israeli style; hammer down (if it has one) nothing in the chamber.

Glad you're only asking about pistols.


Regards,
Rabbit.

one45auto
September 26, 2004, 12:33 AM
I keep my Colt M1991A1 in condition three (chamber empty, hammer down, and a charged magazine) until I retire for the night, at which point I revert to condition one (aka "cocked and locked", meaning a round in the chamber, the hammer pulled back, and the thumb safety engaged). In the morning I remove the magazine, eject the chambered round, reload it into the magazine, and return the pistol to condition three before storing it away.

Occasionally I've used my Glock 19 as a "nightstand gun", but it remains in condition three at all times as I'm still not as familiar with it. Or, perhaps more accurately, I'm still not sufficiently comfortable with the lack of a thumb safety and the absence of the hammer. However give me time....:)

artherd
September 26, 2004, 12:49 AM
Glock is chambered and ready.

Rifles are stored with safety OFF, mag inserted, but no round chambered (as I do not consider them to be 'drop safe'.)

cratz2
September 26, 2004, 08:00 PM
My PCR (my carry gun) is loaded with a loaded chamber, hammer down on half cock. I usually keep my carry gun (whatever it may be) in the desired state of readiness... All are loaded with a round in the chamber... 1911 is cocked and locked.

Ala Dan
September 26, 2004, 08:41 PM
.45 caliber SIG P220A unloaded chamber and magazine,
decocked and stored in lockable SIG plastic case

.45 caliber 1911 WW-II Springfield Mil Spec, unloaded
chamber and magazine, hammer forward and stored
in a Dosko Sports lockable plastic case

9m/m SIG P228 loaded 13+1 decocked and
ready for action should the necessity arise

*FootNote: other weapons within the house are also
loaded and ready for action

Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member

Marshall
September 26, 2004, 09:23 PM
Thanks guys.

I was just curious as to how everyone treated their semi-auto's that are not in safes.

My revolvers are always loaded and ready.

My semi-auto's are in condition three until I pull one for duty as a nightstand gun and then it goes into condition one.

cls12vg30
September 26, 2004, 10:34 PM
No kids or anyone else in my apartment, the DA/SA Makarov is either on me or somewhere nearby, mag fully loaded, one in the chamber, decocked, safety off.

The SAO CZ-52 is also loaded, chambered, decocked, safety off most of the time, but sometimes cocked-and-locked.

Dorrin79
September 26, 2004, 10:34 PM
let's see...

my carry gun (FN SFS) is loaded, safety-cocked and ready to go.

my bedside gun, 1911 Springfield Mil-Spec, it cocked and locked and ready to go.

my FM HP is in the safe, hammer down on an empty chamber, no mag.

My Makarov is in the safe, hammer down, safety off, chamber empty, two loaded mags sitting next to it.

My Ruger MkII is in the safe, uncocked, empty.

All of my other guns are unloaded as well except my 12 ga in the closet.

Once i get my Security Six back from Ruger, I plan on leaving it loaded as well.

Oh, almost forgot to add - I have no kids, and very rarely have them around (sister-in-law's children once a year, if that). On the occasion when children are present, all guns not on my person are secured in safe.

WVleo
September 27, 2004, 06:39 PM
Hi, My cz40B 12 in the mag 1 in the tube, mak mags loaded empty chamber, saiga ak ready to rock & roll with carry bag containing 2 loaded 40rd, 4 loaded 30rd, loaded 10 and 5 rounders and extra 300 rounds in boxes at the bottom of the bag. Waiting patiently here for the martians to land LOL LOL !!!.................WVleo

P.S......Seriously tho there are NO children in my home !........WVleo

cstreu1026
September 27, 2004, 10:59 PM
Since it is just me and the wife at home (no kids yet) my Taurus PT92 is loaded 15+1, hammer down in DA mode, and in the case next to my bed, since I don't have a nightstand yet. When my new furniture arrives this week it will be kept the same way just in the top drawer of my nightstand. Hopefully, wife permiting, there will be a couple more guns in the house soon including a nice shotgun and i think a new Taurus PT145 to carry.

Karate
September 27, 2004, 11:46 PM
Sig 225 fully loaded mag and one in the chamber. (My CCW gun)

Sig 228 fully loaded mag and one in the chamber. Stored in case (sometimes this is carried instead of the 225 depend on where I am going)

Sig 220 Loaded mag Gun empty Stored in Case

Model 66 Fully loaded Desk draw

Model 386 fully loaded( My soon to be CCW Piece, more practice first) in factory case

Model 29 fully loaded with 44spl...bedside gun in night stand

beretta 950 Jetfire 25acp loaded and ready (Church gun)

The rest are empty

TonyB
September 28, 2004, 10:36 AM
All handguns loaded and ready to go...long guns not loaded.Everything's in a safe ,except for bedtime....CCW is within reach then,also ready to go.Handguns make crappy clubs..keep 'em loaded..:cool:

wolf
September 28, 2004, 12:35 PM
cougar 9mm .. in bedroom.. one in the pipe..safty on

cougar .45 .. general house gun..one in the pipe..safty on


wolf

Johnny Guest
September 28, 2004, 03:32 PM
- - and Browning High Power - - If outside the safe are fully loaded, cocked and locked. If I can see the hammer is back, I know there's a round in the chamber.

The Kel Tecs - My wife's and mine ;) - - are kept fully loaded.

Everything in the safe is completely empty, but there's a loaded magazine on the shelf for each autopistol.

Best,
Johnny

Scoob
September 30, 2004, 01:44 AM
My G22, bedside/HD gun is loaded, 15+1 with spare 10 rd mag on night stand. Only other loaded gun in my house is my SW mod 37 snub, which I keep loaded for CCW. The rest of the guns are unloaded as are thier mags. The G19 and Sig p228 are winter carry guns, and may be loaded from time to time. The Keltec p32 is an occasional pocket/deep concealment CCW. The G30 is just a range/fun gun at this point. The Bersa thunder .380 is in the truck loaded and chambered hammer down saftey off, with two spare mags. That's all my handguns.

All rifles and shotguns are unloaded. My double barrel coach gun has 5 00buck shells in a side saddle on the stock for quick loading. I live alone.

joe sixpack
September 30, 2004, 04:04 AM
My only semi-auto pistol is unloaded and kept in a bag with one of it's
mags.

cheers, js

Akurat
September 30, 2004, 10:56 AM
All guns loaded at all times. Beretta 92FS Centurion is my "go to" house gun. DA/SA with full mag +1, safety off, decocked. SA = cocked & locked. Romanian AK fully charged +1, safety on.

If its not loaded, its just a really expensive paper-weight.

Edward429451
September 30, 2004, 11:07 AM
My 1911 has been cocked & locked for the better part of 20 yrs and never failed to go bang. The only time its not C&L is when cleaning it.

schromf
September 30, 2004, 11:53 PM
H'mm I know I posted on this thread, I must have donked it up somehow when I posted ( not the first time)

I don' like leaving the springs in my auto's compressed. Seems like a recipe for failure when I least expect it. I do keep one auto in standby condition but I rotate ammo out of the mag every few weeks, into another.

I have enough revolvers that store better, that this is a none issue. My S&W 58 is always loaded, plus I have a speed loader hot and ready. Considering I am both more accurate and faster with this setup, I just don't see the need to change. Another thought is although I have either a 45 ACP or 38 super in reserve so to speak, if I can't get it done with 12ea 41 mags, I figure I am in deep kaka, and the auto pistol isn't really gone to fix the problem that I need a rifle for.

There is also a Colt dick special that is in very close proximety, that is my backup.

I don't have a need to carry daily any more, but back when I though it was neccesary, a 45 or a 10mm in condition 1 in a shoulder holster is the right setup. But this is setup that needs attention every so often, not really ideal for my current configuration which entails storage and trips to the range.

deadmeat
October 2, 2004, 04:33 AM
do I have to be the first smart@$$ to say:

"What guns, I dont own any guns. Guns are bad!"

BigBlueEyedDevil
October 2, 2004, 07:38 AM
-Beretta 96 is in the nightstand, full mag, one in the chamber, satety off.

-1911 under bed has full mag but in condition three.

-Springfield XD9 in kitchen is condition one.

-Mossberg 500 in safe is loaded with buckshot, empty chamber.

FPrice
October 2, 2004, 07:52 AM
I have kids in the house, plus many visitors.

1. When I am not home, everything is locked up.

2. When I am home if I have a semi-auto out and not on my body it is in condition three, almost always in a holster, hidden where I can get at it but most prying eyes won't find it.

3. If I have a semi-auto on me it is in condition one.

nonquixote
October 2, 2004, 08:39 AM
All of my house guns are kept in the safe in the bedroom closet. Besides my carry weapon du jour, only three are normally kept loaded, my 97B, Taurus 608, and Mossberg 500 12 gauge. The 97B has 10 in the mag 1 in the pipe, hammer down, spare loaded mag handy. The Mossberg carries 5 shells, chamber empty. The safe is left open whenever I'm home, no kids to worry about.

Nonq

Zeke Menuar
October 2, 2004, 02:40 PM
If the LW Commander is out, it is cocked and locked and the CZ is in the safe.

If the LW Commander is in the safe the CZ-83 is loaded, round chambered in DA mode.

Note, for home defense I rely on a shotgun first before the handguns if at all possible.

No kids in the house.

ZM

Dave Sample
October 2, 2004, 02:45 PM
When I carried a 45 ACP on duty, I off-loaded it after every shift as a matter of habit. That gave me a chance to examine it before going on duty and making sure it would function by loading it before I went out the door. No matter how you keep a 1911, the springs are never at rest. If you have quality springs in it I think it matters not whether you keep it cocked and locked as I keep my Carry Commander as we speak. The revolvers are different in that some springs are at rest more than an automatic. Even they have tension on the springs, to some degree. I do not think it's an issue. My kids were exposed to loaded guns since they were born, but were taught not to touch them without permission. That has been almost 36 years and so far, so good. I never thought you could kid proof guns so I took the oposite approach. Most Kids are smart and if you instruct them in a proper fashion, they will obey.

RugerOldArmy
October 2, 2004, 06:35 PM
lol!

The 1911....in the shop getting a dovetail cut.
CZ-75B w/night sights...unloaded, empty mag.
Ruger Old Army....unloaded.
Cold Walker (replica)...5 cylinders loaded.

http://home.comcast.net/~gregrgasser/pistolas.jpg

of course...even if I'd miss with the walker...it would scare the hell out of any BG ;)

Gordy Wesen
October 3, 2004, 04:59 AM
if you're supposed to treat all guns like they are loaded, they might as well be.
no kids here either.

AmmuNational420
October 3, 2004, 10:14 AM
My ccw(glock 17) is always condition 1, 19 +1 in the chamber. No kids in the house, so all other guns are cocked and loaded....an empty gun is a useless gun.

blackduck
October 3, 2004, 10:15 AM
One in the chamber and fully loaded mag in the pistol . . .no safety . . but it's still the safest gun i know of in this condition . .if someone picks it up and simply pulls the trigger nothing happens. . . which gun is it?

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Kamicosmos
October 3, 2004, 11:37 AM
guns in the safe are unloaded, although I may start keeping one of the revolvers loaded.

My nightstand gun (96fs) is chambered with hammer down and safety on.

No other guns are unsecured outside of the safe. On occasion, I'll have the old 12 ga pump near the bed, it will be unchambered, but have rounds in the tube.

Clean97GTI
October 3, 2004, 11:26 PM
FN Forty-Nine in .40S&W (one of my CCW's): Sits in the nightstand chambered with another full mag right next to it. DAO, so there is no safety to screw with. This is the primary defense gun.

CZ75B 9mm: One in the chamber, hammer down safety off. This one sits in the safe.

Commercial Bulgie Makarov .380: One chambered with safety on and extra mags next to it. Sits in my GF's nightstand.

Hi-Standard model 20 12ga: one chambered with safety on. This sleeps under the bed. She eats 00 Buckshot. I'd grab a pistol before this as the length of this weapon is hard to manuver through my narrow halls.

All .22 firearms sit unloaded in the safe. Toys are not for defense.

Mosin Nagant M44: Loaded with empty chamber. Kinda last ditch as I don't want to send a 174grn FMJ slug ripping through thin walls unless I have to. I guess I could always unfold the bayonet, but then its damn near 5ft long. Not good for narrow halls.

Should all this fail, I've got 31" of Easton aluminum sitting behind the bedroom door as well as an assortment of knives. Oh, my Inova X5 sits next to the FN Forty-Nine in the nightstand. My GF has a 2D Mag-Lite in her nightstand.

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