[WhiteKnight]

I have heard many people mention filling a rifle stock with a mixture of melted wax and lead shot, but I'm curious as to how this is done.

I have a cheapie Remington 700 ADL factory synthetic stock that I'd like to experiment with, as if I mess it up it's only a couple bucks to replace.

I have heard that these stocks are hollow. How does one go about filling this hollow area? Simply take off the buttpad and underneath is the hole into the interior of the stock?

:confused:

[SDC]

There's usually a fairly large hole in the middle of a SHOTGUN stock (where the stock bolt ends up attaching), but you could always drill some extra holes yourself. It might be easier to use lead shot and silicone caulking, which would be more adhesive inside the stock. I've done this with my IPSC 870, because it cuts down the recoil when I'm shooting a long string of slugs, but it should work the same way for a rifle.

[nipprdog]

I used the 'no muss, no fuss' way on my two savage 10FPs and my saiga 20.

got 3 pieces of scrap steel from work(with permission;)).
each weighed about 1&1/2 lbs.

I put one each rifle by simply packing it in with some dense,small cell foam.

:D

[WhiteKnight]

I apologize, I may have made my question a little too confusing.

If I remove the buttplate (recoil pad) on my factory stock, will there be a gaping hole in which I can put what I want?

[PO2Hammer]

Yup, a big gaping hole.
I did it on a NEF synthetic. At first I tried #12 lead shot. WAY tooo heavy. I settled on #7-1/2 steel shot mixed with vynalester resin poured into two freezer bags that I had put into the hole ahead of time. Kinda messy, I wrapped the stock in paper first. The plastic bags alow me to remove it from the stock.
Your hole will be very large in the stock I believe, so find an alternative to lead. To experiment, just pour stuff in there and screw the butt plate back on.

[WhiteKnight]

Your hole will be very large in the stock I believe, so find an alternative to lead

Any ideas?

Do you think I could use steel shot? It would be the same volume as lead, but much less weight.

How much weight (approximately) will this add to the gun?

[rbernie]

Are you trying to change the weight and balance, or trying to dampen resonances? If you're going for the latter, I've had good luck with the expanding foam insulation-in-a-can stuff....

[student]

People, people,
maybe I am just crazy, but I don't waste room/weight on a gun to haul around a bunch of useless lead or steel. I stuck an extra 20 rnds of 30.06 in my rem 700 stock, along with some matches a lighter, pocket knife and some waxpaper for kindling. Let your imagination run wild. It was quite effective at balacing the rifle and taming recoil. Just remember to include strapped to the outside of the rifle (or sling) a screwdriver (can be small) to open the buttplate in a an emergency or else you will have to tear it off. I tucked mine under the butcuff shell holder. In all 29rnds of ammo on gun even when nothing in the mag/chamber. I like backup ammo!

[WhiteKnight]

I honestly don't really care about weight (as long as it's not 40 pounds), as I'll be hunting from a tower stand/treestand 99% of the time.

I don't really care about balance, as I'll be hunting from a stand and won't need a quick-handling rifle for any quick shots at game. Also, I think the balance is already messed up (due to a heavy 50mm Leupold scope), so I'm not ruining a good thing.

I would like to dampen the recoil somewhat, as well as give the gun a more solid (aka "uncheap" feel).

[WhiteKnight]

maybe I am just crazy, but I don't waste room/weight on a gun to haul around a bunch of useless lead or steel.

If it's doing what you want it to, is it not accomplishing its intended use? :uhoh:

[rbernie]

I would like to dampen the recoil somewhat, as well as give the gun a more solid (aka "uncheap" feel). Try the foam insulation first. If you don't like it, it's easier to cut back out than will be some dried goo of lead-n-adhesive.

[nipprdog]

I would like to dampen the recoil somewhat, as well as give the gun a more solid (aka "uncheap" feel).

I used the 'no muss, no fuss' way on my two savage 10FPs and my saiga 20.



got 3 pieces of scrap steel from work(with permission).
each weighed about 1&1/2 lbs.


I put one each rifle by simply packing it in with some dense,small cell foam.

:D

[JohnKSa]

I've used BBs in the past.

Surprisingly heavy and you don't have to worry about lead handling issues.

It makes a gun feel very odd when the buttstock weighs as much as the rest of the gun.

[WhiteKnight]

I've used BBs in the past.

Great idea!


It makes a gun feel very odd when the buttstock weighs as much as the rest of the gun.

Do you mean that this is a "bad" feeling? :confused:

[Cosmoline]

I used the loose shot and packing method with an old Topper 88 single shot and it worked well at improving balance and reducing recoil. Just put in a mix of small shot and cotton, fil until the weight is right, then pack the rest with cotton wads or cloth. If you need to get to the stock screw, you can open it up and unpack the whole mass.

[WhiteKnight]

I used the loose shot and packing method with an old Topper 88 single sho
Do you have any idea if this would work with the newer NEF Pardners?

How much weight did you add to the gun? Did you find that it messed up the balance dramatically?

[waynzwld]

I did this on one of my AR15s. First I took an old T-shirt and sewed it into a close replication of the wedge shaped hole in the butt. Put it in the void, poured in some #9 shot. Used a zip-tie to close the "bag" and closed the little door. Now the rifle is balanced and the LOOSE shot dampens the recoil so you can see your shots hit.

Edited to add... The loose shot in the bag makes no noise.

[longrifleman]

I added weight to the butt of a 12 ga single shot I shortened for my nephew. I found a piece of tubing that fit the screw hole and welded a plate to one end that extended about .75" past the tubing and put a screw hole in the extension. I poured the tube full of lead and fastened it to the stock. I put the recoil pad on normally and it helped with both recoil and balance. The weight can be removed with one screw if necessary.

[JohnKSa]

WhiteKnight,

I would call it a bad feeling. I set up a 45/70 single shot like that for a day at the range shooting from the bench. It got me through 60 rounds without a bruise but I would never consider for a second carrying a gun in that condition. I immediately demodified the gun when I got home.

The few offhand shots I tried felt very awkward and it was an unpleasant surprise every time I picked the gun up.

If you don't have to carry it any distance and you're only going to shoot from a rest it's not bad.

The main problem I had was that extra weight makes the stock try to fall off your shoulder unless you hold the rifle firmly with your trigger hand. I generally use my trigger hand just for pulling the trigger, it's touching the stock but not really contributing much to the overall hold of the rifle. My shoulder and the hand on the forearm are doing the work. That technique doesn't work so well if your rifle has a very heavy stock.

[WhiteKnight]

Okay, based on your reccomendations I believe I'm going to add the weight temporarily for sightin/practice with my .270 for the upcoming season, and then take it out before opening day rolls around.

[joab]

I did something similar but for a way different application.
I simply mixed to shot with Elmers Wood Glue and poured it into the void.
Once it cures you need a hammer and punch to break it up but it can be done if needed

[30Cal]

I filled the buttstock cavities on my M1A w/ lead shot and sealed it over w/ epoxy. After about 6 months, I decided to that I had too much weight and busted open one of the two filled cavities. It was an aweful mess of pulverized lead.

If you go with shot, seal it in a pipe or something.

[WhiteKnight]

I added a Limbsaver pad to my most recent Midway order, and once it gets here I'm going to fill the stock and update with pictures. I may follow the "bag from old t-shirt" method in order to reduce mess and increase ease of removal.

[45R]

Why not use the contained Mercury recoil reducers?

[foghornl]

I did the same kind of thing for my Homeland Defense Shotgun, a synth stock Maverick 88. I cut open about 20 of my PMC band 1-OZ slugs, dropped them in the stock cavity, and added some 00 buck from some OLD sheels, then filled it in with cotton balls to prevent rattle.

[WhiteKnight]

Why not use the contained Mercury recoil reducers?

Price.