Price Check - Not a Luger Expert


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antsi
September 27, 2004, 09:47 PM
I don't know much about Lugers - other than I like the way they point - but always wanted one. A friend has one for sale - it is 1920 vintage, has a shoulder stock lug. Condition very good, but not mint. I don't know about matching numbers or any other Luger-specific details. What would be a fair price range for this thing (I know it will have to be +/- with scant details). Collector value is secondary to me - I want one I can shoot and have fun with.

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RickH
September 27, 2004, 10:19 PM
Can't answer with that little info. Shooters seem to go for 400+. If it is a collectible Luger in origional condition and good shape it might be a bad idea to shoot it at all. Try doing some research on this site:

http://www.lugerforum.com/

Start with the New Members Forum. After reading a few posts there you will have an idea of what kind of info you need on the gun to determine value. If you can post a picture of the gun that is helpful, and appreciated by that sites members. If it is collectible you will have no trouble selling it on that site-or trading it for a shooter and some cash. Good luck.

Wildalaska
September 28, 2004, 01:28 AM
Unless its a parts gun or totally beat..it probably shouldnt be shot...

WildfindausedinteramsinsteadAlaska

BigG
September 28, 2004, 08:52 AM
Unless its a parts gun or totally beat..it probably shouldnt be shot...

Why do you say that, ole buddy? BigjustwannaknowG

Lone Star
September 28, 2004, 05:46 PM
If it's marked 1920, be sure that it's a 9mm, not the 7.65mm version. That ammo is hard to find.

Lone Star

Wildalaska
September 28, 2004, 06:03 PM
All matching ones are collectors...if a part breaks, it isnt a collector anymore :)

WildthatstherationaleAlaska

Dr.Rob
September 28, 2004, 07:34 PM
I disagree... it's meant to be shot. It's a hand crafted piece of metal, made when people knew how to make 'em.

Now as to parts that can break... well the Luger sure has a bunch of parts, but none of them seem 'delicate'... not the numbered ones anyway.

My Luger is all matching... except the magazine. I also suspect the safety was 'polished' to remove surface rust at some point.

It's a 1939 DWM model by Mauser... I don't think anyone has told me it's worth more than $5-600.

It's a neat piece and I don't shoot it often, but I still shoot it.

If I'm wrong on my $ estimate I need to update my insurance sheet. :D

Wildalaska
September 28, 2004, 08:24 PM
1939 matching Muaser...condition??? if above 80%, ya got a $1000 pistol...

WWI and 20s guns are quietly and notoriously subject to metal fatigue, ie breech blocks crackin among other things....that turns a $1000 plus $$ collector into a $400 parts gun..

WildimhoAlaska

zeke
September 28, 2004, 09:38 PM
antsi-was in similiar position, always wanted to own and shoot one. Got a S/42 G-DAte war bring back, all matching except mag and fine condition. It is a pleasure to shoot, with natural pointing and excellent balance (opinion). Once ya get adjusted to the sights and trigger, also extremely accurate. Course if it breaks, am going to be irratated.

Only way i was going to experience it, was buying one. It was worth it. Would advise ya wriite down the identifiers and check out the luger site.

Bainx
September 29, 2004, 07:08 AM
If the magazine does not match, all bets are off.
Just ask Mr. Shadduk of the Luger Forum. He is the world's largest collector and is THE authoratative person on these guns. I sent him an email describing mine exactly and he emailed back "fire it".
Good enough for me!
I'll say it again, if you don't know anything about these guns, you can get your butt burned really bad.

popeye
September 29, 2004, 09:06 AM
Extractors are prone to break. Since last 2 numbers of ser. # are stamped on some parts there's some parts selling going on just to get proper #'s on gun. I've had a couple shooters. In other words, you could be sold a gun with matching #'s but all parts are not original to gun. Fun to own. Do you really need it? The question I have finally come to ask myself before a gun purchase.

Kamicosmos
September 29, 2004, 01:23 PM
I have a 1916 gun my grandfather brought back from WWII. all the numbers match. I had to replace the grips though. THe originals were split and rotten, so he had replaced them with some plastic 1950's era replacements. Servicable, but ugly. So it's wearing nice walnut checkered grips again. I also had to replace the trigger return spring, original was long missing. Also, I replaced the main spring. The one that was in it was a field replacement, borrowed from a P38 I think.

The gun is worn, it was in TWO world wars after all. I don't have a proper magazine for it, just the one WWII issue that was in it when grandpa captured it. I've put a few rounds through it after my repairs. I don't shoot it much because the mag falls out alot, being the wrong one. Plus, it's worth a bit, being a numbers matching, 1916, pretty good condition gun. But, it's priceless to me, since it's my grandfather's War Trophy.

I've thought about picking up a 'shooter' but...eh.

Dr.Rob
September 29, 2004, 05:42 PM
I'm pretty sure the grips are original, as they have shrunk a bit. The guy I got it from had solved the problem with a thin strip of electrical tape inside the left grip panel.

I described this piece in detail over at THR a few years back, maybe I'll take a few pics and send 'em to wildalaska and others, get a better idea about it.

I'm thinking about getting one of those wood bottom magazines so it "looks" right.

Domino
September 30, 2004, 12:27 AM
Anyone make a mil-spec copy of a luger these days?

goalie
September 30, 2004, 02:23 AM
So I guess I shouldn't have shot the beejezus out of my grandpa's WWII bring-back??? :banghead:

BigG
September 30, 2004, 08:46 AM
Goalie: Nah. I got a 1938 S/42 (Mauser) P08 that I've shot and continue to plink with. One of the most accurate pistols out there, imho. I think Wildalaska is referring to the WW1 era P08s.

Also, the vast majority of P08s I've seen in recent years are "arsenal refinished" i.e., no collector value in terms of "serious" collectors. Fun plinkers, though.

Roadkill
October 1, 2004, 12:55 PM
Regarding the number of these well used Lugers mentioned, I sent a serviceable but non collectable 1918 Erfurt to this gentleman for restoration. He is not cheap but the work is absolutely first class. He restores them to original condition. Problem now is that it looks so good I don't shoot it anymore. He is excellent to deal with but you have to be patient. A true craftsman cannot be rushed.

http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/

rk

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