[pinetree64]

I like the pistols that are called Baby Eagles(Magnum Research) or Uzi Eagles(Uzi America - Mossberg). Did Magnum Research lose there dist agreement with IMI? What's the sccop?

[Tecolote]

From what I understand MRI imported the IMI Jericho and Baby Eagle brands. The names are a marketing ploy because the Jericho and Baby Eagle are identical and are both made by IMI from Tanfoglio components. IMI kept engineers on site at the Tanfoglio plant and then final finishing was done in Israel.

Uzi America was an attempt by IMI at direct marketing. They sold the IMI pistols under the Desert Eagle brand. MRI kept the rights to the big bore Desert Eagles like the 44Magnum. Later UZI America joined with Mossberg in a venture that went south fast. They sold the pistols under the name UZI Eagle. After that UZI America dropped the Desert Eagle/UZI Eagle (IMI Jericho/Baby Eagle) pistols.

MRI once again picked up the IMI Jericho/Baby Eagle pistols and continues to import them.

In the US the IMI pistols have been sold under the Jericho, Baby Eagle, Desert Eagle and UZI Eagles names. The rest of the world doesn't suffer from this confusion as the pistols are called Jericho to keep things simple.

BTW The IMI Jericho is in combat world wide, from Israel to Colombia. It's a rugged and dependable design in a bunch of variations from frame mounted cocked and locked versions to slide mounted hammer drop versions.

[pinetree64]

Thanks for clearing up the confusion. I've always like the ergonomics as well as the economics of these guns. Migh be lheavy for carry, but I bet fun at the range.

tjg

[Triad]

It's a rugged and dependable design in a bunch of variations from frame mounted cocked and locked versions to slide mounted hammer drop versions.
Do you know if they make a version that can drop the hammer or be carried cocked and locked?

[Tecolote]

As I understand it IMI makes a model that requires manual hammer drop but that can be cocked and locked and locked with hammer. They also make a model that has a hammer drop feature and that can be locked with hammer down. I'm pretty sure they don't make a model that has a safety to drop the hammer and allows for cocked and locked like on the Taurus models.

[jim]

why go through the trouble as well as cost on the imi/jericho/magnum research pistol?
when for less money, better customer service, as well as quality , you could by a CZ. which is what the tanfoglio is a copy of and so on.
not knocking the jericho. very nice pistol, but remember it's still a copy for more money than the cz.

[Tecolote]

With all due respect have you fired an IMI Jericho/Baby Eagle? It's not just a copy. It's based on the CZ75 design but it has significant changes.

Rails are full length

Double strand recoil spring

Guide rod is full length

Can be used cocked and locked or DA locked

Has variations with a hammer drop safety

CZ offers a hammer drop version but none of the models offer cocked and locked and DA locked. Besides IMI released its hammer drop version before CZ did and the former uses a slide and not a frame mounted safety. ;)

True a Baby Eagle is pricier than a CZ75B but Jerichos run the same. You can easily find a Jericho with two postbans for under $350. CZ75B Mils are getting harder to come by so most CZ75B you find now also come with two postbans. They're priced about the same as Jerichos.

You can also easily find IMI Jericho/Baby Eagle compacts for around $320. The CZ75B Compacts are a lot more expensive at over $400. I can't compare them to the PCR because those have alloy frames.

I've never heard anything bad about MRI's customer service. No flame intended, I'm just wondering why you say that CZUSA has better customer service than MRI?

I think it's great that CZ has strong customer loyalty. But lets not turn this into the Church of Polymer where the answer to everyone's questions is "get a Glock." :p

[mdsteele]

I have the Baby eagle in 9mm.(safety/decock on slide). It has become my favorite auto.
Funny thing is, I got it new and cheap with standard capacity mags. I bought it just to shoot. No carry , just a range gun.

I've had the Hks, Berettas, Smiths, Rugers and what not (still got two glocks) but this thing seems to shoot better and get easier to handle all the time.

I plan very soon to add a compact to the litter for CCW purposes.
Try it, you'll like it.

[Walther P99]

Is the Baby Eagle ambidextrous? The MRI website only shows one side nor do they mention it so I couldn't tell.

Edited:
DOH! I just went a little further in the site and it appears the decocker/safety is ambidextrous :cool:

I guess my next question is does anyone have any feedback on the compact (short barrel & frame) model? I really like the steel .40 S&W model, looks like a great CCW piece.

[dude]

not the full sized .40!!

.............. but the compact .40 shares the same slide demensions as the compact 9mm, although the grip might be a tad longer. Still nice and small though.

[74sharps]

I have one of the Uzi Eagle compacts in .40S&W. I can tell you that it is the nicest pistol I've ever owned. I use it for CCW and yes it is the steel frame model. With it I can hit a tin can at 100 Meters. Mine came to me used with one mag. and Trij. sights. It's such a good weapon that I've decided to sell my WaA99 (Walther P99) just as soon as I can put things together on GB. Anyhow, If you have the opportunity to buy one of the steel frame compacts like mine then do it. I'm sure that you will be well pleased with it.