SF Examiner: Guns making long journey to The City


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stv
September 28, 2004, 09:04 PM
link (http://www.examiner.com/article/index.cfm/i/092804n_guns)


Guns making long journey to The City
Cops trace path of 25 weapons from around country.

Story by Alison Soltau

Guns are flooding into the hands of local criminals from across the nation, with weapons originating in Massachusetts and Utah being found at local crime scenes, San Francisco police say.

A study tracing 25 guns seized from crime scenes and unregistered owners over the past two months found that the weapons had traveled thousands of miles.

However, cops say it still does not answer the million-dollar question: How are some of The City's most dangerous felons getting their hands on them?

"That's the thing we still don't know," said Bayview District Captain Rick Bruce, who ordered the trace after concerned residents asked him that very question.

Bruce said that was the line of inquiry police should now tackle.

The trace, completed by the department's Crime Scenes Investigation Unit with the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, pinpointed where firearms were first sold and their original buyer.

Of the 25 guns, nine were 9mm or .380 semiautomatics, while the rest were standard revolvers. They were in the possession of people from gun enthusiasts to career criminals, and were picked up by police in incidents possibly ranging from simple illegal possession cases to shootings, Bruce said.

Some of the weapons came from gun dealers in Oregon, Massachusetts, Colorado, Utah and Virginia, while one .40 caliber gun found its way from the police department of Renton, Washington, to local streets.

Most of the buyers were legitimate Bay Area purchasers, but the guns somehow then wound up in the hands of felons, who are not authorized to carry firearms in California.

Some were manufactured before the introduction of mandatory serial numbers in 1968 and could not be traced.

None were assault weapons, although those guns have dominated the spotlight this year, having turned up in several high-profile crimes including the Easter slaying of police Officer Isaac Espinoza, killed with an AK-47.

Police have expressed concern that although assault weapons are illegal in California, the recent lapse of a federal ban on the firearms may result in more being smuggled in from neighboring states with less restrictive laws.



:rolleyes:

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Third_Rail
September 28, 2004, 09:08 PM
None were assault weapons

No kidding?

Gee. Funny how some came from MA, since we have really tight gun control laws...

I guess gun control works like drug control; it doesn't.

deej
September 28, 2004, 09:29 PM
Hmmm, they don't mention how many "crime guns" come from San Francisco's (pop. 770,000 or so) ONE storefront dealer.

Of course, this story was in the Examiner, so no one will ever read it.

esheato
September 28, 2004, 09:52 PM
They were in the possession of people from gun enthusiasts to career criminals, and were picked up by police in incidents POSSIBLY RANGING from simple illegal possession cases to shootings, Bruce said.

I object! Speculation. Possibly ranging?

How about.....in incidents possibly ranging from burglary to theft....

Ed

R.H. Lee
September 28, 2004, 09:55 PM
Guns are very smart. They usually travel on back roads at night, undetected, until they locate a criminal. Then they jump into his hand and start spraying bullets. :p

Sodbuster
September 28, 2004, 09:57 PM
However, cops say it still does not answer the million-dollar question: How are some of The City's most dangerous felons getting their hands on them?
Hey, those bad guys aren't playing by the rules! Somebody tell the cops.

SLOdraw
September 28, 2004, 10:05 PM
"wound up in the hands of felons, who are not authorized to carry firearms in California."


I thought the laws effectively prevented felons from carrying guns.

Since San Francisco does not issue CCW, it this because they assume everyone is a felon?

(Sarcasm on)

Additionally, do other states allow felons to carry guns?



Boy I'm glad I don't live there anymore...

Standing Wolf
September 28, 2004, 11:38 PM
Most of the buyers were legitimate Bay Area purchasers, but the guns somehow then wound up in the hands of felons, who are not authorized to carry firearms in California.

Oh, gosh! I wonder whether that might have anything to do with the fact that even multiple-conviction burglars get probation rather than prison in the People's Republic of California.

carp killer
September 28, 2004, 11:54 PM
Guns are flooding into the hands of local criminals from across the nation,


But that's against the law.................. :confused:


PRK is a nut house run by the inmates.

redhead
September 29, 2004, 12:51 AM
Looks like we need stricter gun control laws, since the ones in places don't seem to be keeping guns out of the hands of criminals. What a shock! Criminals aren't obeying the law! Go figure.

Wildalaska
September 29, 2004, 01:22 AM
Guns are very smart. They usually travel on back roads at night, undetected, until they locate a criminal. Then they jump into his hand and start spraying bullets

Those must be the bad guns...the ones I know jump on me, rip my creidt card out of my pocket, then lie to SWMBO about what they are

WildihangoutwithabetterclassofgunAlaska

4v50 Gary
September 29, 2004, 09:10 AM
None were assault weapons. That must be positive proof that CA assault weapon ban is working. :rolleyes:

Either that or "assault weapons" are not the choice of gangbangers. So much for the "blood on the streets" warning of Fineswine, Boxer, Schumer, Teddy and all the other grabbers.

Henry Bowman
September 29, 2004, 12:24 PM
NewsFlash: Many crime cars originate in Detroit!

Seems the way to solve the "problem" presented in the article is to open a firearms factory in SF so those guns don't have to make that long trip.

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