[Tropical Z]

If you remember the hold,boring website go check out the new one.Much improved and there are new polymer .40's and .45's coming SOON!!!
HI-POINTS RRRRRUUUUULLLLLLLEEEEEEE!~!~
www.hi-pointfirearms.com

[Sisco]

Just spent all my mad money on a new Kimber, now I find out High Point has something new! Ain't it my luck. :banghead:

[Soap]

Sisco- I almost fell off my chair there! :p

I'm glad that capitalism prevails and people buy Hi-Points. But they're are definitely not for me.

[Sisco]

I'll agree Daniel, there is a need for High Point. Just thankful I don't need one.
I read a report on one in Gun Tests magazine. While they thought is was top heavy and inaccurate they did point out that it never failed to feed or fire in their tests. They also said you could get the same results with a brick and a nail but the brick and nail would probably be more comfortable.

[Blackhawk]

Arghhhh! Now I've got to get some emergency medical treatment for my eyes.... :cuss:

[hksw]

Huh, I think I'll give the poly .45 a try when it comes out.

[22x9]

I don't know guys. Their 9MM COMP with the laser accessory seems mighty tempting.

..... Not .....

[nemesis]

Too late. I've already decided to get a Bryco. Or maybe a Jennings.

[ahadams]

I dunno, I never was impressed with their handguns, but have tried the 9mm carbine and it was kinda fun. Now if they'd just bring one out in .45 ACP they'd have another customer.

In any case I've been tempted to buy one of their .45's *not* because I think it'll replace my kimber or my PT-945, :rolleyes: but just because they're an American company and I know the fact that their firearms are inexpensive yet functional has got to gaul the bradyites and other socialists tremendously! :D

[denfoote]

Sisco,
Yes, there is indeed a niche for the high Point!! That need is exemplified by this statement on the web site in question!!!

It is a violation of Federal Law for a convicted felon to possess or even attempt to buy a firearm.

Only here have I seen this stated!! There's your niche!!! :rolleyes:

They know who the majority of their customers are!!! :neener:

[DeltaElite]

I was gonna try to come up with something funny, but after seeing the crap they call guns, I am speechless. :barf:

[Standing Wolf]

Whether you are the original purchaser, or a third-hand owner, your Hi-Point firearm will be repaired free of charge.

I've seen worse warranties.

[standingbear]

i shot 1.if you dont have the funds for a more refined pistola then for the money they shoot.cant say id want 1 fer myself(too much kentucky windage going on) but whatever floats your boat.incidently,tried the carbine out too,broke the grip just inserting a mag.all was forgiven and i didnt have to buy it.

[Tropical Z]

I'm betting those polymer .45 BA's will sell like hotcakes!:cool:
Its a 10 round Kimber buster!

[762x51]

OMG....my eyes.....you really should have put a "Not Safe For Work" tag on that link.



:p

[Selfdfenz]

Then I go to the gunshow and see the The Hi-Points and the whole idea goes away. I really would love a 9 mm carbine about that size. It would be wonderbar if I could run my CZ mags in it.

Hi-Point........a company that appears to work overtime designing the ugliest guns they can make.
S-

[arinvolvo]

In all seriousness...I would consider the 45 just for a "fun" gun...

I dont have a 45...and I dont really feel like plopping down 600 for one...So the high point 45 might serve me well as a weekend plinker.

I kinda want that 380 also.

I love cheap guns...as long as they dont explode in my hand.

[emann]

I admit it, I bought a Hi-Point .380 a few years ago when I didn't know the difference between it and a H&K. Since then I have shot the crap out of it and cannot make it malfunction for anything. It's also very fun to shoot and suprisingly accurate. The new website look's great also. I now have some much nicer gun's then a Hi-Point and alot more gun knowledge but my Hi-Point has stayed and will remain with me. I would not at all be suprised if another one ends up in my collection one day. Besides I'm not even sure if some of my higher dollar gun's could handle +P+ ammo like my Hi-Point can. ;)

[Tamara]

Kia's Rio compact sedan has new, larger front brakes for '03, too, yet somehow I remain unmoved. ;)

[NapAttack]

Actually, you guys have almost convinced me to buy a Hi-Point.

Anything that is as universally reviled as the Hi-Point is, I've just got to see for myself what everyone is slamming. I can't imagine anything being that bad.

Actually though, I've only seen one pistol I think is uglier than the Hi-Point and that's a Glock.

No, I'm not a Glock hater, just think it's the ugliest pistol I've ever seen.

[hksw]

That's what I did. After reading the posts of people either abolutely hating it (majority) or absolutely loving it (minority), I went to research it somemore. It seemed the majority of the majority have never owned or fired it. And the majority of the minority have.

Went and got the 9mm Comp to see for myself. It has worked great. I did finally get one failure to feed after ~700 rounds. Grossly underrated in my experience.

Did the same thing with Glock. Certainly a good gun but, IMO, much overrated.

[Big Al]

My 995 carbine w/red dot, compensator and touch laser has never jammed after 6-700+ rounds. Wanne envision ugly? Imagine when I put a 4-16X 50mm BSA CatsEye scope on it this past spring and took a gobbler with 124gr+P Gold Dots.

[Tropical Z]

Glocks are definitely the KING of UGLY IMHO!
All i know is my compensated 9mm Hi-Point race gun gets a lot of envious looks at the range!!!:neener:

[Nightcrawler]

Their polymer framed models seem to have fixed a lot of the shortcomings of their older steel models; last shot slide lock, regularly positioned mag release, 10-round mag, etc.

As long as they work well, who cares what they look like? It's better than no gun at all, and I'd much rather a new shooter buy a Hi-Point and lots of ammo to practice with than an $1400 custom job that screws up their budget for months and they can't afford much in the way of ammo or mags after that.

Sure, you can often find used revolvers for that price. But you can't find used semiautos for $160 very often. Again, I say, AS LONG AS THEY WORK, why not?

'Sides, you Glock owners....Hi-Points ugly? People who live in glass houses....

[Nightcrawler]

...and besides. For a company that supposedly produces only junk, they have a darn good warranty.

You know what these pistols remind me of? I read somewhere that during World War II, the US experimented with a stamped metal .45 pistol that would be much easier to mass-produce than the 1911, which required extensive machining. The war ended before it got anywhere, but I imagine something along the lines of the Hi-Point as the end-result of such a project. Cheap and easty to mass produce, and blowback guns are generally less complex than breach locked.

If they're RETAILING for $169.00, I wonder what the actual per-unit production cost is?

[Tamara]

All i know is my compensated 9mm Hi-Point race gun gets a lot of envious looks at the range!!! :neener:

Lotta blind folks shootin' out by you, huh? ;)

[blades67]

They're not blind, just been living in the trailer park too long.:neener:

[Al Thompson]

:rolleyes: Come on folks.

Last CWP class I ro'ed had a young lady with limited iincome who had a 9 mm Hi Point. It fired everytime she pulled the trigger and her score was better than some other folks using more expensive handguns.

Would it be my first choice? No. Is this lady adequately armed? Yes.

FWIW, the first rule of a gunfight is still "Have a gun" and the second ought to be "have a reliable one". IMHO, she's got the first two covered.

[Tropical Z]

Tamara your'e just hopeless! If im ever in your neck of the woods,ill let you hold my Hi-Point for 5 minutes for $50.00:D

[Flying V]

There's a picture of that stamped .45 in Ezell's Handguns of the World. It used the Browning locked breech, but looked like an inbred relative of the Hi-Point.

I bought a Hi-Point carbine because I wanted a pistol-caliber carbine, but I didn't want one very badly.

[makdaddy03]

I have a Hi Point in .40cal it jammed the first 3 rounds. But has not jammed since. Thats about 300rds ago. :) Plinker gun only.:)

[444]

As I posted in a recent thread, I ordered a Hi-Point polymer .45. My dealer took the order on the phone and told me it should be there by Monday (four days ago). Yesterday I went in to pick it up. He told me that he can't find one. He said that he called all his regular wholesalers and even a place that sent him a flyer and nobody has a single Hi-Point handgun of any kind in stock. :confused:

[Russ]

I guess if it's all you can afford then its probably better than nothing. However, IMHO, these have to be the ugliest pistols ever produced.

What ever happened to Tony Ulichne from TFL? He loved his Hi Point and wasn't afraid to say so. To each his own I guess.

[Russ]

You know, I went back and I have changed my opinion. Hi Points are downright BUTT UGLY! :barf:

[Justin]

I agree with Dan's sentiment. The Hi-Points have a niche to fill, and for someone with very limited funds who needs a home-defense gun, I'm sure that they fit the bill just fine.

That said, to my mind a blowback operated .45 pistol just seems like sloppy engineering to me. In order for it to operate, the slide has to have much more weight than a weapon that uses a Browning-style system.

To go and stick a polymer frame on that in order to make the thing lighter just seems like putting the cart before the horse.

But that's just me. Tropical, if you love your Hi-Point and it does everything you want it to, goodonya.

[Ian]

...Hi-Point race gun...
Lol! A race gun is the polar opposite of a Hi-Point. A race gun has had every possible part replaced or customized, and has piles of money sunk into it. A Hi-Point, even one with a compensator, is a stock, bargain pistol.

But, as Dan and Justin say, they fill a necessary (as illustrated by the company's profits) market niche. Personally, I'll take a more refined weapon.

[m.i.sanders]

I keep thinking about picking one up in 9mm as kind of a plinker/car gun that I wouldn't really care that much about. The things are ugly as all get out, but at 80 or so dollars new, it might just be worth looking at.

[cool45auto]

:rolleyes: :scrutiny: They're still ugly.

[444]

So what ? Do you buy guns to shoot or to look at ?

You want to see something ugly, I will show you my Sten MK II.

[cool45auto]

:D :D :D

[Justin]

So what ? Do you buy guns to shoot or to look at ?

Yes!

:D

[Tamara]

So what ? Do you buy guns to shoot or to look at ?

I can't seem to help looking at the gun while shooting. ;)

[444]

Tamara, concentrate on that front sight. The rest of it is just a distraction.

[George Hill]

160 bucks for a High Point...

or

A CZ-52 and 1/2 a case of ammo for it.
I'll go with that CZ-52 every time.
:evil:

[444]

As I have posted many times before, why can't I buy both and a whole lot of other stuff too ? Along with the ammo ? If there was some kind of limit, I would agree with you; but there isn't.

In fact, when I get my High Point, I will have it, and two CZ52s and more than half a case of ammo for each and all the handloading stuff for them both.

[care-less]

I shot a 9mm one time, yes it was ugggly, but shot everytime I pulled the trigger; hit where I was aiming too! Is there something else a gun is supposed to do? Now I am not going to the gun show tomorrow to buy one; on the other hand, if you ever had to legitimatly defend yourself, the cops are going to confiscate your $$$$$$$$$$ pistol, and some liberal judge may well destroy it (or take it home) for the "good of society". I think I'd rather they take my Hi-Point than my Sig or P7. Damn, now I have myself talked into getting one. I'm not sure I should say thanks to the guy who started this thread, or cuss him out for even bringing it up!:) I wonder if I can keep my friends from finding out I bought one? hmmmm.

[Tamara]

...on the other hand, if you ever had to legitimatly defend yourself, the cops are going to confiscate your $$$$$$$$$$ pistol, and some liberal judge may well destroy it (or take it home) for the "good of society". I think I'd rather they take my Hi-Point than my Sig or P7.

If you get in a wreck in your '70 Lamborghini Muira, it'll never get fixed right, either. Perhaps you should give it to me for safekeeping. I promise I'll drive it ever... er, store it safely. ;)

[care-less]

Should I ever even see a Lamborghini whatever; I'll take a pic and send it to you. I can probably at least afford the picture.:)

[pale horse]

tropicalz if it blows your hair back and you carry one on a daily basis so be it. I am going to stick to my 1911.

[denfoote]

Yup!! smurfing through that satanic website (with one eye shut to avoid total damage to my vision), I stumbled across this!! Here it is!! My old High Point!! Still looks as fugly as ever!! Bet shoots and functions as good too!! :barf: :barf: :barf:

[NapAttack]

I have to agree with Russ here. The Hi-Point is one ugly pistol, only thing I've ever seen that was uglier than a Hi-Point was a Glock.

You guys have finally convinced me. I have got to have a Hi-Point. I think one of the 9mms would be just the ticket.

[denfoote]

You guys have finally convinced me. I have got to have a Hi-Point. I think one of the 9mms would be just the ticket.

Hey NapAttack,
If you take a metal detector and scour the vast Sonoran desert, you might just find a free one!!! It's about 4' under on the Arizona side.
Good Luck!!! :neener:

[Erik Jensen]

I actually handled a Hi-Point 9mm today... as has been stated, it's ugly as sin, but it... um... actually is pretty comfy in my hand..



I don't know what's wrong with me..

no, I didn't buy it. :neener:

[gudel]

this weapon looks like one of those futuristic gun in movies.
but if it works, i don't know why so many people complain about it, so please quit bitching about it because it's cheap, but the bottom line is that it works. glock works, and it's ugly too but i don't hear too many people adamantly argue that it's so ugly it's not worth having.

of course my HK USP 45 is still much more handsome than any of the glocks. it looks mean and it means business :cool:

[Andrew Wyatt]

it seems to me that the hi point does what the glock was orignally designed to do. (namely, be an inexpensive, but reliable pistol).

could someone explain to me what is wrong with an inexpensive, but reliable pistol?

[444]

It has to be inexpensive, reliable, LOOK GOOD, and be made overseas so we can support the citizens of another country.

Repeat after me, looks are everything. Buy foreign first.

[Tamara]

If you have any foreign-made guns, mailing them to me will make you feel more patriotic. I'll pay for the postage.

:neener:

[444]

I have a bunch of them, but is that supposed to stop me from stiring the pot ? :evil:

[Tamara]

Dude, I'm only trying to ease your conscience...

...and score some free guns.

Can you blame me? ;)

[SapperLeader]

I told my brother Id buy him one as a present since he cant afford his own gun. It may not be the prettiest or the best on the market, but If it allows him to protect himself and have the satisfaction of owning his first firearm, more power to cheap guns. I think Ill stick with my xd9 and xd9 compact for now, but that hipoint carbine is looking tempting....

[RTFM]

A friend of mine in Idaho has one of the .45's
YES it is flat out UGLY (even Fugly)
YES it is top heavy
YES it (so far) has fed every round (so he tells us)
and the sad thing is, everytime we all get together, we bust his but for having one, but after that we all want to shoot the ugly duck (replace the D :rolleyes: )
For me it was a little slopy but I still hit what I pointed at. FWIW

[Mannlicher]

On it's best day, a Hi-Point is still a Hi-Point. Some people swear by them , some swear at them. I would never, ever own a gun that ugly.

[Tropical Z]

Im still kicking myself for not buying one at the last gun show that a pawn shop had for $65.It was like new although it wasnt the sweet looking compensated 9mm.Still had that famous lifetime warranty though!:banghead:

[chaim]

Actually though, I've only seen one pistol I think is uglier than the Hi-Point and that's a Glock I'm really shocked that several people seem to have had similar thoughts to this. I am not a lover of plastic guns, I don't own a Glock, I may someday but only because it works well. I think Glocks are some of the ugliest guns out there. But compared to the Hi-Points they are absolutely beautiful. The absolutely ugliest gun I've ever seen is my Hi-Point Carbine with chrome receiver and handguard.

Anyway, a lot of people here seem to be making fun of Hi-Point in good fun. I can respect that. However, others actually seem to hate them, that I don't get.

Sure, some Hi-Points are lemons, but so are some Kimbers, HKs, Glocks, etc. Why is it that when an expensive company makes a lemon it is just a lemon and when an inexpensive company makes a lemon it is because they make POC guns?:rolleyes:

Generally Hi-Points are actually quite reliable. My carbine wasn't at first, I had some magazine issues, but those have been sorted out and I've had hundreds of rounds (hey, I've only had it for a bit more than a month) through it now without a bobble. For a cheap beater gun (car gun, home defense gun that you don't care if it gets confiscated if you are in a SD shooting, just for fun, etc) or for someone on a limited budget they serve an underserved market. It is a reliable, accurate, and very affordable gun. As others have said before, what is wrong with that?

[NapAttack]

"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder."

To me, the Glock is even uglier than the Hi-Point. To begin with, I don't like plastic. I don't mind an alloy but I draw the line at plastic. Call it polymer if you like but when I pick it up if it feels like plastic then it's plastic. "A rose by any other name..."

I can't stand the grip angle of the Glock (or the Ruger .22 or the Luger) or the mushy trigger. Heavy triggers, even gritty triggers I can deal with but mushy, no way.

They say the grip of a Glock is about the same thickness or slightly less than a single stack 1911, to me it still feels like a 2x4, a plastic 2x4 at that.

The aesthetics of the Glock just turn me off. The squared off, blocky slide then the slightly angled rounded dust cover of the frame. The rounded bottom portion of the butt and that squared, slightly pointy trigger guard. Bleeeech!!!

[KeysBear]

I posted on the other Hi-Point thread, but figured I'd add my 2 cents here too. I agree that the anti Hi-Point junk is probably coming from people who have never touched or fired one. I asked if I could order a carbine at one local dealer, and he went into a canned speech about cheap guns and you get what you pay for. Maybe all the anti Hi-Point talk has been started by dealers who can't make enough mark-up on them. I got another dealer to order mine, and it handles flawlessly, was accurate right out of the box, and is totally fun to shoot. I think of it as an urban .22 rifle - cheap ammo, good for plinking, but enough punch to stop a bad guy if that was the first firearm you could get to in a jam. BTW, it's ugly, but I kind of like it that way. :) Regards, Keys

[Apple a Day]

I seem to remember someone doing a poll on this site about the most important characteristics of a self-defense firearm. IIRC it came out
#1: reliability
#2: power
#3: accuracy
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.
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#412: looks.

No, I don't own a Hi-Point. I am just confounded by the fear and loathing that an inexpensive, American-made pistol gets. How about someone start an ," I just shot a Hi-Point" thread and everyone who actually shoots one does their own range report. Then it would be put up or shut up time. :evil: Post 'em if you got 'em!

[twolf]

What does Rosie O'Donnell and Hi-Point have in common?

Both are ugly and completely useless.

If your richest relative buys a 'gun' with bullets and the total comes to $50, you might be a redneck!




:evil:

[denfoote]

Then it would be put up or shut up time. Post 'em if you got 'em!

I already did!! Scroll up!!! :neener:

[Combat-wombat]

I've always thought that Hi-point carbine is REALLY UGLY.

[Bren]

Theres nothing wrong with having an extra hair dryer in the home. :evil:



I do own the 9mm carbine and would recommend it to anyone poor who needs a house gun. The thing has never jammed and eats +p and +p+ JHP's like candy. Even people who never shoot could open up a can of woopa$$ with it. Bren

[cool45auto]

If that's all you can afford or if it's exactly what you're looking for in a cheap gun to have around then fine. But....:rolleyes:

[firestar]

Brand new website, same crappy guns.:neener:

Come on Tropical Z, you work for Hi-Point don't you.:scrutiny: