Redundant firearms?


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Dbl0Kevin
October 2, 2004, 02:53 PM
So how many of you have more than one or many guns that do basically the same purpose? In thinking over the guns that I'd like to own eventually it hit me that most of them do pretty much the same damn thing. If I have an M4, do I really need an AK or an M96, XCR etc. If I get an M1 Garand, what would be the point of an M1A, or a FAL, a DSA, or an HK91. I already have a Beretta Storm, but would love an MP5 copy. It would be nice to have these things but thinking about it logically I can only shoot one at a time and really what would cause me to pick up one over the other except for simple "i like this one better."

So have any of you guys found yourselves in this predicament? Asking if you should really spend more money on something that really is just a redundant gun.

I guess the part that still makes me want to get them all is for collector value, and just to "have" them. Kinda like an art collectors keeps a bunch of paintings just to look at.

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nico
October 2, 2004, 03:04 PM
Being a poor college student, I don't have the funds to have that problem, but I've had my first rifle for less than a year and already want a heavy barreled bolt gun in .308 and/or a .308 AR variant for range and some hunting duty (my gun is a Ruger M77 allweather in .270).

Chris Rhines
October 2, 2004, 03:20 PM
Ever since I DNFed a match because of a broken firing pin, I've been a firm believer in having backup guns...

- Chris

DorGunR
October 2, 2004, 03:21 PM
Well, I have four 1911's and I'm getting ready to buy another.
Why?? Because I want to.:D

mnrivrat
October 2, 2004, 03:32 PM
I think a redundant gun is the second example of the same gun you already own.

With limited funds most people try to purchase the best gun they can for the purpose intended. One shotgun, one high power, one 22LR , etc. to cover the "needs" of the individual.

I would guess the majority of guns are not bought out of need however. They are bought for uniqueness, and their individual appeal.

Not so much as an investment, but for their "fun" value .

RGO
October 2, 2004, 03:34 PM
I have backups of the same gun, but not "similar" guns that do nearly the same thing as my mains. Main reason? I believe in the saying, "If you like something, buy two, because they'll quit making it." :) There are of course more logical reasons, such as having an exact copy ready to go in the event of failure or confiscation (if you use a gun for self-defense, the police will take it).

Otony
October 2, 2004, 04:15 PM
I have 3 Single Six revolvers, and a Bearcat, so I suppose I could be accused of a high redundancy factor.

HOWEVER!

One NM Single Six has a 9.5" barrel, it is my designated squirrel handgun.

One OM Single six has a 5.5" barrel, and the old style drift adjustable sights. It is my designated collectible SS, as only 30 were made in this configuration*

One OM drift sight Single Six will soon have a shortened barrel (4.75") and a lanyard loop. It will be my designated "woods loafer", to replace the....

Bearcat, which was somehow designated my wife's gun:D

So you see, all Single Sixes are equal, but some are more equal; than others!:p

*My collectible single six is a transistional model, one of only thirty so made. It has the factory steel ejector housing of the old XR-3 equipped SS, but with the new, XR-3RED gripframe. There is also the older style frame markings. After 30 of these were built, presumably to use up older parts, the factory began making the rest with aluminum ejector rod housings, different frame markings, and of course the newer gripframe. I don;t use mine as much as I would like, so as to keep it pristine. Hence, the woods loafer version.....

shermacman
October 2, 2004, 05:22 PM
In answer to your first question, yes you need an M1 and a M1A and an AK-47 along with an AK-74 and an M16 to go with your M4 and M1 carbine. Then you need an SKS, MP5 and a Thompson. This assumes that you already have a lever-action guide gun in .357 to match your .357 revolvers. Your other revolvers (from cute little 10 round S&W .22's up to a .458 Linebaugh) must be balanced by a good collection of semi-autos from .22 on up to a wide range of .44's and 45's.
What did I leave out? Potato guns?! Paint ball? Ya need those, too!

Dbl0Kevin
October 2, 2004, 05:34 PM
In answer to your first question, yes you need an M1 and a M1A and an AK-47 along with an AK-74 and an M16 to go with your M4 and M1 carbine. Then you need an SKS, MP5 and a Thompson. This assumes that you already have a lever-action guide gun in .357 to match your .357 revolvers. Your other revolvers (from cute little 10 round S&W .22's up to a .458 Linebaugh) must be balanced by a good collection of semi-autos from .22 on up to a wide range of .44's and 45's.

You're obviously right. I must have lost my senses momentarily. :D :what:

Standing Wolf
October 2, 2004, 07:00 PM
There's no such thing as too many match pistols, too many Pythons, too many carry guns, or...

shermacman
October 2, 2004, 08:30 PM
Black Powder!
Sheesh. I forgot black powder guns! Ya need them, too! And we haven't even considered gear and optics. My wallet is not as fat as my list is long....

tc300mag1
October 2, 2004, 08:35 PM
I got 3 diff 45's couple of big bores wheelies couple of battle rifles i just buy what grabs my eye

stealthmode
October 2, 2004, 08:53 PM
im all for having "redundant" firearms. get as many of one type that you like just incase of breakage and interchangability (is that a word) of parts and magazines. my favorite doubles are the M1A type rifles, sig 226,229, Ruger MKII, soon to have doubles on mini 14 and 1911.

mrapathy2000
October 2, 2004, 10:14 PM
spare parts are always nice either the form of a second gun same make model caliber or different caliber same parts.

4v50 Gary
October 2, 2004, 10:20 PM
I can stack arms with my Garands. I have severals 1911s types including left handed models.

If we're talking .22 LRs, or .38 special revolvers do I really need?

Heck, it's about collecting and having fun.

klover
October 2, 2004, 10:45 PM
Yes, your thoughts had crossed my mind.
I cover applications with two or three like or identical arms.
.22 pistols and rifles, .38 revolvers, .357 revolvers, .44 revolvers and lever,
sks (of course YOU CAN NOT OWN JUST ONE SKS!), 8MM mausers and semis, .375's and a shot gun just in case you need something for self defense.



Guns and no ammo, no way. Soooo much ammo, how can I use it up if the one gun breaks?:neener:

Okiecruffler
October 3, 2004, 12:45 AM
I've got a couple dozen military bolt actions, almost a dozen SXS's. All are redundant, and completely necessary.

entropy
October 3, 2004, 03:15 AM
'Redundant' firearms are very handy for spare parts, as mentioned , and training and arming others if needed.;) I have six Mosins, so far, and I'm still waiting for my C&R. ( I want an SKS real bad, and they were on sale this week at Fleet Farm, had to hold off, the car needs brakes first...:( )

Sunray
October 3, 2004, 03:30 AM
"...that do basically the same purpose?..." That's not the point. It's shooting different firearms. It's the firearm that counts. Not what it shoots.

outofbattery
October 3, 2004, 03:40 AM
I used to think that a different pistol to wear for each day of the week was enough but then I realized that owning only 7 pairs of socks wouldn't do and that guns are more important than socks in the grand scheme of things so my logic was indeed flawed . I don't have any idea why I have 6 9mm's that all are approximately the same size and do the exact same thing other than I tell myself that they needed a good home and that they're cheaper and less hassle than owning 6 cats . If you can't tell , I'm very good at rationalizing purchases but my favorite new line of thinking is that it's necessary to have a BUG from the same manufacturer even though I have never carried one and probably never will . If you think about it , chances are that a P226 really is lonely without a P230 .

Okiecruffler
October 3, 2004, 04:39 AM
With logic like that, if you don't have a C&R yet, you need one REAL BAD.

Matt G
October 3, 2004, 05:57 AM
Some people whom I respect keep matched pairs of their carry guns. The actually carry gun gets shot very little. Its mate, which is set up exactly the same way, gets all the wear and tear.

Not a bad idea.

4570Rick
October 3, 2004, 06:12 AM
Two Ruger Blackhawk .357's
Two Ruger 10-22's
Two Springfield 1911's
Two Winchester 1300's
Two M-1 Carbines (1 Rockola & 1 Winchester)


I went to the school of redundancy school. :D

cracked butt
October 3, 2004, 07:04 AM
No two guns of mine are the same.
















(they all have different serial numbers)

wheelgunner100
October 3, 2004, 09:12 AM
Just because I have 15 revolvers with 2"-3" barrels doesn't mean any of them are redundant. Some are blue some are stainless, some are 5 shot some are 6 shot, some are Rugers some are Smiths some are Colts, some are steel some are aluminum some have some titanium in them. Some match my dress shoes some my work boots. See, they all have different purposes.

trapshooter
October 3, 2004, 10:42 AM
Hey, some of 'em were just wandering around looking for a good home.;)

biere
October 3, 2004, 11:26 AM
Owning a variety lets you see what sighting system works best. What design you prefer to clean. What ammo you are happiest with. And also how well the ergonomics of the gun work for you.

I own a variety right now.

But I have a favorite and the rest live in the safe. With the ban gone and rumblings of my favorite folding stock coming around again I am planning to sell the ones living in the safe and duplicate my favorite while I legally can.

Everyone has their preferences.

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