Most Gun Friendly States


Lord Soth
February 23, 2003, 06:46 PM
Where would Florida rank in the list of gun friendly states? Also is there a list of states from most gun friendly to least gun friendly or is it to subjective?

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El Tejon
February 23, 2003, 06:52 PM
Lord, check with the Brady Bunch's website for a grade. I am completely confused over their criteria for issuing grades, but I'm sure y'all (a little Southern lingo) are in the "D" to "D-" range.

Lord Soth
February 23, 2003, 06:55 PM
We got a D+.

Robby from Long Island
February 23, 2003, 07:26 PM
New York State (The Armpit of America) has to be the least gun friendly state in America.

I just don't think they have a rating system low enough for NY to accept.

Greg L
February 23, 2003, 07:30 PM
Ah, but Robby,

If the Brady crowd gave them an A then (hopefuly) by your criteria you will give them a F. The converse is true also.


February 23, 2003, 07:38 PM
Good staring point.

As mentioned you want to have the "poorest' grade on the 'sheeple ratings" though...

February 23, 2003, 07:39 PM
I forget PA grading but I'd say it was well in the top 30% ..... has ''shall issue'' for CCW and certainly in my own area, there are plenty of shooters .... hunting of course being pretty big. Still very aware tho of the declining numbers of gun shops these days.:(

February 23, 2003, 07:40 PM
Although I only work there, I think W VA has got to be near the top.

February 23, 2003, 08:31 PM
Vermont. No permits needed, period.

New Hampshire. Live Free or Die- says it all. Great tax structure too!


Your problem isn't New York. It's that cesspool island you live on (with my in-laws:uhoh: )

Seriously upstate is much better. CCW can be a hassle (varies by county), but if you're clean, usually no problems.

PA is pretty cool, so far. No personal transfer of handguns is only downside i see.

February 23, 2003, 09:21 PM
Vermont would have to be the best - you can open or conceal carry without a license.
I would have to put Georgia near the top. If you are legal to own a gun, you can get a permit - no classes or tests.

February 23, 2003, 09:45 PM
Vermont is the #1

But don't forget AZ we got a D from the Brandy bunch and with the new gun laws. We should get a big fat F next time the brand bunch update there grades.:evil:

Plus in southern AZ we don't get snow :neener: :neener: :neener:

February 23, 2003, 10:04 PM
WA is friendly. Good carry and personal protection laws. The major drawback in this state is the retarded democratic socialist government running the largest metro area.

Mainly PRK, PRO folks that leave and come up here and ruin the place.

Other wise its real nice. Its getting better as well because all those freeloaders are bailing the sinking ship of virtual economy.

Good riddance.

February 23, 2003, 10:09 PM
I think that Idaho, Wyoming, Montana, Utah, and Alaska are the top five.

February 23, 2003, 11:20 PM
Glad to see Nevada got a D.

February 23, 2003, 11:23 PM
I would have to say that Indiana is a good state. We have very few carry restrictions and getting a permit here is very easy. I found this thread over on TFL that also have a lot of good info. Hope this helps.

February 23, 2003, 11:28 PM
Louisiana is pretty good as far as being gun friendly. We got a F from the Brady Bunch.

Besides, check out ( for more info on states that allow, you guessed it, full-auto weapons and other goodies. Here's the link for the State by State Index ( .

February 24, 2003, 01:54 AM
I would have to put Texas right there at the top of the gun-friendly that we got rid of Ann Richards:D

February 24, 2003, 02:00 AM
I greatly admire those states that got an F from the Brady Bunch.

Jealous too... :cool:

February 24, 2003, 02:21 AM
On the table listing at Full what are SBR, SBS, AOW, and DD?

Lord Soth
February 24, 2003, 07:34 AM
My guesses:

SBR: short barreled rifle
SBS: short barreled shotgun
AOW: any other weapon
DD: destrucive device

February 24, 2003, 07:47 AM
Ya'll forgot Utah. Shall Issue carry permit, carry anywhere (besides courts and federal property) with permit, businesses can't restrict firearms on thier property (asinine, but cool), you can even CCW in a bar here :neener:
BLM Land to shoot on, plus a public range owned by the Department of Wildlife Resouces. Also a Class III state.

J Miller
February 24, 2003, 09:22 AM
Plus in southern AZ we don't get snow

OK, that hurt. It just snowed here again last night. YUCK!!!

Illinois has got to be close to the top of the worst gun law states, and will likely get worse with the current stooge, 'er governor that was just elected. :fire:

Don Gwinn
February 24, 2003, 12:59 PM
Yo, J, we're striking out for Tennessee in a couple of years. Y'oughta come along. I love snow, but I've had enough of this place.

Kentucky Rifle
February 24, 2003, 01:19 PM
Last year we got an "F-" from the Brady bunch however, sadly :), this year we somehow moved up to an "F". Pretty good for CCW here. A great many judges and legislators have gun collections and are PROUD to talk about their collections.


February 24, 2003, 01:48 PM
Stay away from Maryland. Don't even visit or pass through.

Brady Bunch gave MD a perfect "A". Only state to get a perfect A.

The State Attorney General, Joseph Curran, who was re-elected in November apparently hates gun owners and wants to disarm them all, especially handgun owners.

State is running away with crime despite our "A" rating. Number one for six years running nationwide in armed robbery and number two nationwide in crimes of violence, according to the FBI.

February 24, 2003, 01:52 PM
Open carry no big deal (outside the city) concealed by "permit" and most everybody has some guns.[

February 24, 2003, 02:03 PM
Maryland makes a great example, being right next door to W.Va. with its close ot 85% gun ownership rate, great gun laws and lowest crime rate for several years running.

We've got a state constution amendment granting a right to bear arms, shall issue CCW ($75), reciprocity, and a machine gun law that basically says "It shall be illegal to own an illegal machine gun. Other than that, knock yourself out."

J. Parker
February 24, 2003, 03:50 PM
Washington State is a great gun state after living and working in California for twenty years. Even though I'm an ex-Kali I didn't bring any bad Kali Karma with me when I came up. I just "blended" in. :D

February 24, 2003, 05:08 PM
Alabama is gun friendly.:)

El Tejon
February 24, 2003, 05:15 PM
Re: Kentuck moving from "F-" to "F"

I just don't get the Bunch's goofy grading criteria.:confused:

Robby from Long Island
February 24, 2003, 08:34 PM
Greg L - I'd give New York a rating of Z if I could but I don't think that was part of the scoring.

45Badger - I almost have to lump L.I. into the same swamp as NYC. I'm sure upstate is better than either of the above two, but PA is a great place. Luv Lancaster Cty.

Safe shooting.

February 24, 2003, 08:35 PM
The funny part about Md is that DMR runs a number of public outdoor ranges, and hunting is pretty big on the eastern shore ( no true rifle season though:uhoh: ). interesting how about 1/4 of the state gets to tell the rest of us how to live.

March 5, 2003, 06:43 PM
Read Boston's Gun Bible, he really lays it out
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