Another convert


Oleg Volk
October 3, 2004, 04:03 AM
A friend (, a very talented musician, just stopped by for dinner after being away for several month. The change in bearing and attitude was amazing: she transitioned from child to adult while away. We had a very interesting debate on a variety of philosophical and political topics. At this time, she is a Democrat.

During the chat, it came out that she did a lot of reasearch on RKBA and decided it was worth her strong support. So she will be tagging along for the next range trip and would love to go shoot submachine guns at the next opportunity. Her explanation of the reasons for the change of mind showed that it wasn't lip service but rather a strong change in conviction.

She is now looking over Walter Williams and Von Mises articles.


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October 3, 2004, 04:06 AM
Beauty, brains, talent... you know what my next question is. :D

October 3, 2004, 04:16 AM
You're a lucky man, Oleg.

Speaking from personal experience, I can honestly say that there isn't anything sexier than a woman willing to take her own protection seriously. The look of confidence and surety in their eyes as they strap on that shooter for a match is something to behold.

Oleg Volk
October 3, 2004, 04:18 AM
She is not single :-) She has an equally talented boyfriend in the UK, of all places.

4v50 Gary
October 3, 2004, 05:03 AM
Most women I meet are anti-gun. One gal told me that she didn't want to take a life. I told her neither did I but that I hoped she valued her life more than that of one who would cause her bodily injury.

October 3, 2004, 04:39 PM
Good. The best thing we can do for RKBA is to convert folks like this young lady.

I assume that your past guidance led her to her new conclusion. As always, good work Mr. Volk.

Brian Dale
October 3, 2004, 11:31 PM
Well Done, Oleg! Maybe she'll even agree to share her experiences here; perhaps she'd be willing to give us a range report - a fresh perspective. :)

October 4, 2004, 08:30 AM
One gal told me that she didn't want to take a life.

Who does??

The problem with the anti's, they think we are all out to kill people at the first excuse..

The other problem is, it is pathetic that if it came down to my life and the lives of my loved ones vs. a street thug, that these pacifist anti's would rather die...

October 4, 2004, 11:13 AM
The other problem is, it is pathetic that if it came down to my life and the lives of my loved ones vs. a street thug, that these pacifist anti's would rather die...

I don't know if it's that so much as they just haven't thought it through in any depth or actually been faced with a violent attack.

October 5, 2004, 10:26 AM
mrsmack...first time at the range....August 04... I picked a real pretty day at an outdoor range for her first. She didn't much like the feel of most of my handguns too big, grips too rough, etc. But really liked my Beretta 92FS 9mm. Actually hit what she was aiming for...numerous times....she was very excited...She shot my Beretta better than I do.....mack

October 5, 2004, 11:53 AM
Please post pictures form your range trip.

October 5, 2004, 09:00 PM
:cool: One brick at at time.

October 6, 2004, 02:05 AM
Was it someone posted? Or something i read?

cannae member....

but somewhere i read that the creature that made Bowling for Columbine decided to interview two pro gun people. Heston and that other chap that was w/ mcviegh... my mind ain't working right now...

at any rate - thier responses to the question - do you have loaded weapons in your house and why were from heston (who he portrayed as living in a gated secure location in beverly hills) as a "because i can" and from the other fellow was... gawd... like i said mind failing me atm... something to the effect of he though it was neat and liked it. Don't quote me - i'd have to find the article again to re-read it - was prolly from one of the gun mags i read.

The point being that it was portraying these people in a light of "they are highly unlikely to be attacked in that way at thier home"... so why do they need firearms.

So i guess what i'd like to know is... how many "attacks at the home" are we allowed before we would like to defend ourselves? For me - its none - i pray i'm able to defend myself should the attack come - that i've got the ability and the chance to do so. But even if i'm suprised and just taken out - i lowered the chances of it being successful - vs. someone who never took the time to try.

Personally - i'd LIKE to NEVER be attacked at my home - never have my house broken into, never have my car broken into, never worry about a car-jacking, never worry about getting mugged, never worry about being a customer in a mcdonalds that gets some wacko nutjob shooting people, never be in a post office that gets a dif kind of wack nutjob shooting people, never be in a school that gets another kind of wacko nutjob shooting kids/teachers, etc etc etc....

I'd LIKE to never even think .... "G" DAMNIT! why did i forget the pistol at home?

I'd LIKE to never think .... If i had had.....i might have been able to....

I'd LIKE to never think that i'd EVER NEED a firearm to defend myself.

I'd LIKE to never wonder if this govt's goals 50 years after de-arming people will be the same as some other historical example.

I KNOW people like fienstien don't want to hurt people... i know thats hard to swallow - but i truely believe they think that removing guns will remove the danger of getting shot by one. And to a limited extent i bet they are right. Limited cause criminals will still get guns, the only dif in THOSE circumstances is that they have MUCH more power then. Then there are the other really big thugs... or even a group of really small thugs - who can take just about any one down w/ a bat or a knife, who aren't worried that the person might have an equalization...

Point being in that last bit that while the current political storm might be about protection - does that mean it will be the same in 50 years when they are done disarming us... what of the next group who goes... "hey - of course we are gonna do this - what they gonna do... SHOOT US??? (much laughing in the high seats of aristocratic heavy weights in govt.) Think it can't happen - some people on these boards have made it VERY vocal about Germany's dis-arming of the jews... and SEVERAL other less famous disarmaments in the past....

I'd like to think ALL of it ain't true... that it won't happen to me - but "not likely" is NOT "ain't gonna happen"

Thus - so long as i can - i'll remain armed... even after its illegal if it comes to pass... after all - i'll just need a few pigs and or some tires/diesel to take care of the mess after i'm done protecting myself....

Congrats on another convert - i wish they all understood that sticking thier heads in the sand is NOT a defense... and any chance of protecting yourself is like having an airbag in yer car - sure the seatbelt may work fine (running upstairs/to locked room - calling cops on cel phone) - but don't you want as much chance of success at living as possible? I know we all gotta die eventually - but i'd prefer that it happen of natural causes... heh


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