[sonny]

I don't find to many people that like to talk about pistol grip shotguns.Usually people comment that they are inferior to full size shotguns in every way except for size and portabillity......I generally agree with that.
Yet I remain facinated by them.....all that power in such a small package.
What practical use do you see for them?....how proficiant have you gotten with them?were you formally trained in using them?
Do you dismiss them as being useless gadgets?....why? or why not?.......you got to admit they are fun to shoot.....Am I alone on this?
What do you say ...Dave Mc?

[Rembrandt]

I ordered a Bennelli M1 Super 90 with pistol grip when they first came out....planned on using it for upland bird and deer hunting. The grip angle is very uncomfortable for field carry. Changed it to a regular stock after the first season....but the pistol grip is great as a deer gun w/scope.

[Andrew Wyatt]

PG only shotguns are useless except for door breaching duties.


shotgun with pistol grip stocks aren't any worse than normal shotguns, IMHO. I like them, actually.

[HSMITH]

I can hit a man sized sullouette every time on time from 25 yards with slugs out of a pistol gripped shotgun from the hip, buckshot is even easier to shoot. They are easy to use and fun to shoot, but a shoulder fired weapon is faster in accurate shot placement and engaging multiple targets past 20 yards. I put about 75 rounds through a pistil gripped shotgun just yesterday morning, and every one was a solid hit.

They can be used well, but I prefer a full stocked gun. If I could take barrels down to 14" or so the utilty of a PG 12ga pump would be worth more to me........

[Correia]

Step 1. Buy pistol grip (only) shotgun.
Step 2. Shoot it a bunch. Waste hundreds of rounds becoming about half as accurate and fast as you could be with a regular shotgun.
Step 3. Get treated for Carpal Tunnel Syndrome.
Step 4. Throw PG in river.
Step 5. Purchase real stock.
Step 6. Shoot it a bunch.
Step 7. Having learned from mistakes, post about it on internet.

:D

[citizen]

Well, thanks guys. I WAS planning on switching my mossy stocks; to use for a HD gun.........maybe not......:confused:

[Badger Arms]

What are we talking about here. There are two types of pistol grips and three types of pistol-gripped stocks. The two types of pistol grips are the standard (much like an AR-15) and the curved which is what you'd get if you sawed the stock off. I find the curved style to be punishing as the middle finger ends up hitting the trigger guard. There are also three types of stocks I'm aware of. One is the pistol gripped stock which consists of an AR-15 style pistol grip and stock configuration. Then there is the semi-pistol gripped shotgun like the Remington 870. The final is the straight-gripped stock much like the M1903 in it's straight configuration.

Now, I find few practical uses for a pistol grip but I do have one Ithaca so set-up. The reason? For hiking and fishing in bear country. I can strap it over my shoulder for close-range bear protection. The gun is nearly completely out of the way and doesn't catch on brush when I'm going through underbrush. I can also slip it down my chest-waders and it won't get wet.

[Dave McCracken]

In 1981,the Powers That Be in the Md Correctional System decreed that folding stock 870s were to be carried in some rapid response vehicles meant to circle around a new prison, instead of using towers. They also commanded that all officers learn to shoot from the hip with the darn things.

We had 300 rookies to teach. An instructor's course run by the FBI a few months prior gave us some input, and we sweated out a MOA and got fair to middlin' good. It took a while and lots of ammo.

Two months later,we had the rookies left all qualified. Nobody shot from the hip as well as they did from the shoulder,and times went up considerably.

Note, those folding stocks cut some cheeks, and were recalled by Remington. They also had a small butt plate, no pad, and hurt even the best of us.

As instructors, we had to qualify on our Mickey Mouse course past 90% to keep our status. Most of us had to work a bit more to do so. Consensus was we'd shoot from the shoulder at more than contact distance.

A few years later, the folders were pulled from service, the stocks replaced with REAL ones, and cheers went up from the ranks.

Back on TFL, there were some folks that were fans of these Hollywood shotguns. I challenged them to a shootoff, their choice of COF and ammo. No takers....

[firestar]

If I could take barrels down to 14" or so the utilty of a PG 12ga pump would be worth more to me.

I agree.

I prefer the straight PG as opposed to the true PG like a AR-15 has. I had a Chote PG (AR-15 style) on my 870 and it really hurt the hand if you used 3" shells or even if you didn't.:D

A 14" bbl SG with a PG would make an excellent HD SG. I don't take long guns seriously for HD because of the length. If you have even tried walking down your hall with a 4' long shotgun or rifle in the dark after you thought you heard something, it become apparent that it has many dissadvantages. Pistols for me! If I was to stay put and barracade myself, then the SG would be my choice.