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ny_vin18
October 4, 2004, 09:39 PM
ok guys and gals i wanna see ur cx4 storms if any of u have some i just bought mine but im gunna buy some accessories first befor i put it up on here

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JackDRipper
October 4, 2004, 11:31 PM
Here's mine.
JR
http://www.hunt101.com/img/109823

jem375
October 5, 2004, 12:29 AM
:barf: :barf: :barf:

wasrjoe
October 5, 2004, 12:31 AM
:barf: :barf: :barf:

Why? *confused*

swingset
October 5, 2004, 05:28 AM
originally posted by jem375
:barf: :barf: :barf:

Congratulations, you win the "doesn't understand the point of the thread" award. Step up to the front of the short bus to claim your prize.

Here's my Storm (notice jem, I do understand the concept of "show us your Storms). ;)

http://home.alltel.net/swingset/temp/Beretta_Storm_1.JPG

WhoKnowsWho
October 5, 2004, 06:38 AM
Congratulations, you win the "doesn't understand the point of the thread" award.

Maybe he doesn't like Storms?

Mine is all stock, so I haven't bothered to take a pic of it! It looks just like yours, but I do have 2 15 round and 2 17 round mags for it.

MLH
October 5, 2004, 09:55 AM
Hope this works

jem375
October 5, 2004, 10:06 AM
:barf: :barf: :barf:

Skunkabilly
October 5, 2004, 10:36 AM
Your Cx4 Storms = :cool: :cool: :cool:

My location = :barf: :barf: :barf:

Dbl0Kevin
October 5, 2004, 01:25 PM
Jem, if it's really neccessary to show your utter disgust at these guns everytime they're mentioned so be it, but I don't think the same 3 pukey faced reply more than once in each thread is really called for. :rolleyes:

My Storm is basically stock right now, as I've been focusing my attention on completing my AR. But I'd eventually just like to put a small red dot on it and get a trigger job. I like the light weight and don't want to add too much and my only complaints are the sights and the trigger. Also it seems like i'm the only one who has removed the original stock spacer instead of adding more. I dunno about you guys but I find the storm with no spacers to fit perfectly and as a small 9mm carbine I want it to be the smallest lightest package as possible.

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=1276264

skebe
October 5, 2004, 02:41 PM
http://64.81.110.163/~skebe/bang/cx4left.jpg

jem375
October 5, 2004, 04:40 PM
sorry guys, just find it hard to believe that anyone would pay that much for a pistol carbine when the pre-ban or post ban ar15's are selling at a low price right now.....they are more accurate, so much more power distance wise, lengthwise about the same, 20-30-40 round magazines, surplus ammo is cheap...all the storm is good for is for plinking anyway...

Skunkabilly
October 5, 2004, 04:43 PM
sorry guys, just find it hard to believe that anyone would pay that much for a pistol carbine

Because they're fun and people like them? :)

(Skunk who spends money on computer games, action figures and other fun items when not being pursuing Purpose Driven Tacticality)

Andrew Wyatt
October 5, 2004, 04:44 PM
the storm uses the same magazine your CCW gun uses. this means you can keep it in your trunk or whatever unloaded and you don't have wo worry about running afoul of the law.

thefitzvh
October 5, 2004, 05:02 PM
sorry guys, just find it hard to believe that anyone would pay that much for a pistol carbine when the pre-ban or post ban ar15's are selling at a low price right now.....they are more accurate, so much more power distance wise, lengthwise about the same, 20-30-40 round magazines, surplus ammo is cheap...all the storm is good for is for plinking anyway...

Who cares, it's a gun, and all guns are great. He likes it, you don't. He's not holding it to your head forcing you to buy one

Carlos Cabeza
October 5, 2004, 06:13 PM
IWANTONE !!!!!! :cool:
Jem, think of it as a Marlin Camp 9 only COOLER !!!!!!! and more tactical.

swingset
October 5, 2004, 08:54 PM
jem, please go away. Find some school kids and ridcule them for believing in Santa, or pour salt in someone's coffee. Your dislike of the Storm is noted. We don't care if you like them, nor did we ask for your blessing before buying one. It may dishearten jerky folks like yourself who despise other's happiness, but some of us enjoy our Storms, alot.

Shoo.

jem375
October 5, 2004, 11:48 PM
swingset......the day I listen to you will be a cold day in hell......I, like you have a right to my opinion and will continue to make mine known....if you don't like it, scroll past............

fistful
October 6, 2004, 12:08 AM
Life is too short to spend being mean.

But people who like ugly guns ARE ridiculous.

Why must life involve such conundrums?

The Storm is a cool-looking peice, though.

jem375
October 6, 2004, 12:11 AM
actually you are right, a person has the right to buy whatever he wants.........enjoy your storm........

swingset
October 6, 2004, 12:17 AM
originally posted by gem375
swingset......the day I listen to you will be a cold day in hell......I, like you have a right to my opinion and will continue to make mine known....if you don't like it, scroll past............

You already listened to me. :D

You have a right to crap on threads, bullying your opinions where they serve no purpose...and I have the right to call you an idiot/jackass.

America is a wonderful country, ain't it? My Storm farts in your general direction.

Kurt
October 6, 2004, 12:29 AM
Easy there, fellow shooters......

I have no significant objections in responsible ownership of a purely “fun” weapon. There is room for all, and I say please enjoy your CX4 to its recreational fullest.

However, Beretta has stated in their ads that this is a weapon that is “designed to meet the needs of law enforcement” and further states, ”is also excellent for sport and home defense”. Beretta even has it listed under the law enforcement header on their website.

Well, I’ll concede that generic “sport” category to them, but NOT those other two. Sorry Charley, “1-out-of-3” isn’t good enough when lives are on the line. This weapon has several glaring (and needless) handicaps for defense, especially when compared to a more informed choice.

I believe that there is a significant group (within the owners of this weapon) that takes Beretta’s advertising poppycock seriously. For them, this play-actor of a carbine suddenly becomes a car gun, truck gun or some sort of a primary option for home defense.

And with that risky mindset, is where MY objections begin.

thefitzvh
October 6, 2004, 12:43 AM
If a 9mm pistol is viable for defense, I fail to see how the storm is not.


James

Dbl0Kevin
October 6, 2004, 12:51 AM
I crack up when I see people saying how horrible the Storm or any 9mm is for home defense, truck gun, etc. First of all any gun is better than no gun, I really think we take things too far sometimes in looking for the exact best for every situation. Second, as a light carbine that can accept the same mags as a pistol it can come in quite handy. Third one of the most popular law enforcement and military arms of all time is the HK MP5 which is strikingly similar to the Storm other than being select fire. Finally for those who are so deadset againt the 9mm I have a proposition for you. Let's go have a duel and I will bring a 9mm Storm and you can bring whatever you'd like. One shot each but I get to fire first. Any takers?

PS. For those that think that an AR is so much more accurate than a Storm here is a target that I shot with my Storm the very first time I had it to the range. Bone stock, 25 yards, offhand with only my ammo box to rest on.

PSS. For those that say surplus ammo is cheap I can get 1000 rounds of 9mm for $85-90. Other than Wolf the cheapest I've seen 1000 rounds of 5.56mm is $140

Kurt
October 6, 2004, 02:51 AM
Dbl0Kevin...
“I really think we take things too far sometimes in looking for the exact best for every situation.”

Yep, if it really needs to be said, I surely want the “exact best” defensive choice available for any foreseeable situation. It all comes down to just how serious you are. Firearms are simply tools, and as such you pays your money, and takes your choice. The difference between a poor, or proper (defensive) choice depends upon the tactical wisdom and gun-smarts of the buyer. Stack the odds in your favor.

The Cx4 is a plinker. It’s not as defensively versatile as an equal caliber handgun. The myriad of size related benefits of sidearms are already well known, and ANY ONE of those benefits could be responsible for someone winning a defensive encounter.

The Cx4 is also of carbine SIZE, but CANNOT FULFILL most carbine mandates. Hence, it’s a poor primary choice for anything but recreational use. It LOOKS good, and unfortunately, that’s where some folks stop thinking.


Dbl0Kevin...
“Second, as a light carbine that can accept the same mags as a pistol it can come in quite handy.”

If those are your primary considerations, it looks like you found your weapon.


Dbl0Kevin...
“Let's go have a duel and I will bring a 9mm Storm and you can bring whatever you'd like. One shot each but I get to fire first. Any takers?”

And with that statement, it makes it difficult to further take you seriously. That kind of “tactical fantasy” continues to sell many, many different brands and styles of mouseguns. But all it is, is the very essence of what spawns new and like-minded comic books, video games and TV shows.

swingset
October 6, 2004, 03:26 AM
I didn't buy my Storm to go toe to toe with an M14, nor do I expect it to. Mine is a toy, but then nearly all my guns are.

However, it has tactical benefits for a defensive carbine and these are tangible and real if you chose to employ them.

1. It is lightweight, and as carbines go, small. Ergos are good, sights are good, controls are fast and intuitive. With rails, it has the ability to employ lasers, lights or even NV equipment in a head's up platform.

2. It shoots 9mm, commonly available, adequate for a defensive use. Also, a 40 and 45 version are coming if you feel the 9mm isn't up to the job. All three of these rounds, while not rifle rounds, also don't suffer the overpenetration problems of high power rounds in a home environment, something to consider. Shock and muzzle blast is also negligible, which plays into the team/cqb role.

3. The length of barrel does offer more velocity than a pistol of equal caliber.

4. Any carbine has an advantage over a pistol, in that the gun can be used as a weapon even empty. The Storm, while not a billy club, is solid enough to do more damage than a Glock if swung by its operator.


Personally, I wouldn't rely on the Storm for a home-defense gun when other guns fill the need, but if I had one and needed it in a home-defense scenario, I wouldn't hesitate to reach for it. It has a lot going for it.

And, oh yeah, it's fun.

WhoKnowsWho
October 6, 2004, 04:17 AM
When I am out shooting my Storm vs my Glock 9mm, I can hit my steel target 17 times without a problem in less time it takes for me to hit the target 10 times with the Glock. Hmm...

swingset
October 6, 2004, 04:53 AM
When I am out shooting my Storm vs my Glock 9mm, I can hit my steel target 17 times without a problem in less time it takes for me to hit the target 10 times with the Glock. Hmm...

Yeah, then there's that. :D

Dbl0Kevin
October 6, 2004, 10:11 AM
Firearms are simply tools, and as such you pays your money, and takes your choice. The difference between a poor, or proper (defensive) choice depends upon the tactical wisdom and gun-smarts of the buyer. Stack the odds in your favor.

And this right here just makes my point about taking things too far. The gun does not make the man. I will take any gun you give me no matter what caliber. As long as it 1. shoots when the trigger is pulled and 2. has good combat accuracy it will be plenty "tactical". No it may not have all the bells and whistles that I'm used to but I can guarantee you that I can use it just as effectively in a defense situation. "Tacticality" is 99% mindset and training and 1% gun and equipment.

And with that statement, it makes it difficult to further take you seriously. That kind of “tactical fantasy” continues to sell many, many different brands and styles of mouseguns. But all it is, is the very essence of what spawns new and like-minded comic books, video games and TV shows.

Sorry but you're the one with the "tactical fantasy" goin on here. I was illustrating a point that no one would want to be shot with a 9mm and then continue on in a gun fight. Since a lot of people around here seem to think it's such a puny cartridge. The point seems to have soared over your "tactical" head.

Skunkabilly
October 6, 2004, 10:40 AM
I didn't buy my Storm to go toe to toe with an M14, nor do I expect it to. Mine is a toy, but then nearly all my guns are.

Probably could with my former M1A before I sold it since all its toes kept falling off :evil:

Rexzila
October 6, 2004, 05:46 PM
Oy Vey! The 9mm approaches .357 velocities out of a 16 inch barrel. A 9mm is no .308, but in an urban environment it shines when range is not an issue. We can argue 9mm vs .223 till the cows come home. A 9mm is perfectly suitable for home defense. You are going to have a hard time convincing a District Attorney people were a threat to you 200 yards away unless they are packing some very heavy hardware. Most felons are using a 9mm or less in home/hostage scenerios. A guy armed with a Storm has an advantage over a felon with just a handgun. Many countries use 9mm MP5s for secret service duty,etc. There is a reason for that choice. I do think a P-90 H&K is even a better choice but that is not available to civilians.

Correia
October 6, 2004, 06:16 PM
MODERATOR HAT ON:

Gentlemen,

Chill out. Take a deep breath. Sure, you have the right to call somebody names, but be prepared to loose your posting privledges and be banned from THR if you do so.

Enough of this garbage.

jem375
October 6, 2004, 06:34 PM
double0kevin......in the first place, offhand is not resting the gun on an ammo box....at that distance you should be able to shoot decent groups with a 9MM....you can't outshoot an ar15 at any distance with the storm..

Dbl0Kevin
October 6, 2004, 06:40 PM
in the first place, offhand is not resting the gun on an ammo box

Well I wouldn't exactly call putting my elbow on a gunbox a "rested position" so in the interests of being forthright I explained it. Secondly I had my AR with me that very day and it was not grouping nearly as well as the Storm was. Either way it's a negligable difference for combat accuracy.

yesterdaysyouth
October 6, 2004, 07:56 PM
you can't outshoot an ar15 at any distance with the storm..

must be something wrong with your storm then...

:p

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=1279101

jem375
October 6, 2004, 11:52 PM
??...bring money....

Strings
November 6, 2004, 12:51 AM
Well... I haven't done added any spectacular toys to mine (getting the top rail and a reddot for it soon). DID cook up a stock mounted dual mag pouch though. And next, the single-point sling... :D

Skunkabilly
November 6, 2004, 01:18 AM
YOU GUYS SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nail some steel plates in the name of the Skunk :D

itgoesboom
November 6, 2004, 01:47 AM
It may not be the ideal defense firearm, but it sure beats a pointy stick.

I have yet to be able to get my wife to shoot any of my rifles or shotguns, since they intimidate her. She is very recoil and noise sensitive, so even an AR probably would be alittle intimidating for her.

But that Beretta Storm seems like it would be perfect for her. 15-30 rounds of 9mm in a compact, easy to shoot design, with .357 ballistics.

Not to mention, I think it would be a blast to shoot.

I.G.B.

KaceCoyote
November 6, 2004, 01:58 AM
Its better to be proficcient with a firearm, even if its deficient in some areas. I would wager somone who spends alot've time behind saiga in whatever caliber can shoot circles around some snob who spends all of his time researching whicch guns are more tactical rather than shooting.


People have been, and will continue to be shot and killed with 9mm from a myriad of carbines. Please, if you have much trigger time behind the storm then tell me exactly why its less tactical then lets say a SUB-2000 or a Hi point in 9mm? These are comparable pistol caliber carbines, both of which have been and will continue to be employed successfully in home defence. All you need to do, is hit a target at close range in very familar territory. You dont need to put 30rnds into them and then stab them repeatedly with your fixed bayonet before burning their flesh off with your tactical ultra bright tactical light...this is of course before your glock 21 comes out to finish the job.


Simple job, many answers. Very few are wrong. Enjoy your Storms guys, and may it serve you well. :)

Snowdog
November 6, 2004, 03:58 AM
Do those come in cream-popsicle orange
http://www.icecreamusa.com/products/images/large/77567-02089_large.jpg

and in .357sig?
http://www.arizonagunrunners.com/357sig.jpg


I do believe I'd like one of those.

NineseveN
November 7, 2004, 07:33 PM
Not saying this is anybody here, but sometimes when people show up to puke on threads like this, they're usually the same people that have a FAL Carbine in .308 next to their bed for home defense (or a shorty AR). Most (I mean, like 98% would be my guess) have never shot that particular firearm indoors without hearing protection (are you really going to have time or enough wits to grab your muffs or plugs when your life is in danger?).

Some things to realize:

1. A rifle caliber in a short barrel config is going to knock your noggin around something awful with muzzle blast, sound pressure and muzzle flash. Try shooting that ultra tactical AR or "whateverriflecaliberthingie" down your hallway at 3AM after being woken up by a home invasion. You might get one good shot off before your nervous system is in sheer hell. If the concussion doesn't make you crap yourself, then you're the man, really.

2. If firepower is your main concern (ignoring capacity, report, flash etc...) then grab a 12guage. Not nearly as quick and handy as a carbine, but in the case that your head is fuzzy after the first shot, you just need to be in the general direction in most cases. Pick your shot load according to the dimensions and choke points inside your home/domicile.

3. The AR, FAL or whatever is more likely to penetrate the outside of your domicile and injure an unintended and innocent person. While in an all-out war with aliens/terrorists/JBTs etc... this would not pose a problem, I doubt we'll see that situation.

4. In the more likely scenario of someone breaking into your home (home invasion or whatnot) rounds striking your neighbors is a very real and dangerous issue. You will go to jail. :eek: You will likely feel terrible that you killed or hurt someone that had nothing to do with whatever was going on in your house because you thought your tricked-out battle rifle or assault rifle was the ultimate home defense weapon.

In this role and given the most likely scenario, pistol power carbines are excellent choices. They don't beat you up indoors as much as rifle power carbines. They're just as handy, usually lighter and offer mag interchangeability with your sidearm in some cases.

Granted, this is coming from a guy with 2 FALs (my favorite rifles), a VEPR (semi-close second favorite), a Saiga, a few handguns and a 22 Rifle who does not own a pistol power carbine...of course, my 12guage sleeps right next to me. ;)

With that all being said, I like the Storms you folks have been posting. I might have to get one. :)


Buy what you like, enjoy the hell out of it. Be real. Cheers.

Andrew Wyatt
November 7, 2004, 07:50 PM
Any longarm is more shootable than any pistol. that's justification right there for the storm.

Hoploholic
November 8, 2004, 12:47 AM
Amen Andrew and they are just darned fun to boot!

Aaron C
November 29, 2004, 08:08 PM
How much are those things going for? Im actually interested in one now that I've read all this pro/con banter. Sounds like a good choice for home defense. I'd like it even better in .40 though but heck there's nothin wrong with 9mm.

Remember, Terminator used a 9mm!

Chuck Jennings
December 7, 2004, 04:02 AM
OOOH! I forgot about the storm. Hopefully there will be some good new 30 round mags coming out!!

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