Jewell trigger HELP! (pictures)


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WhiteKnight
October 6, 2004, 11:54 AM
First off, I apologize for the poor quality of the pictures.

I recently purchased a Jewell trigger (HVR) for my Remington 700 ADL in .270.

I first had trouble actually installing the trigger, but now I've got it on the action and it seems to operate perfectly (I can work bolt, turn on/off the safety, pull trigger, remove bolt, etc.).

However, the darn thing won't fit into the stock!

I called Jewell today and the guy I talked to sounded just as stumped as I am, and he reccomended asking a gunsmith what to do, or else just slowly taking off material from the stock little by little.

Normally, I'd just grab some sandpaper and sand for a correct fit. The Jewell guy even told me that sometimes this is needed, but usually only 1/5000 of an inch or some minute amount is required.

On my stock, it seems as if the trigger assembly is sitting about an inch too far to the right.

As you can see in the pictures, the trigger blade itself doesn't even protrude all the way out of the stock.

While in the stock, the safety cannot be worked because it is rubbing against the side of the stock.

Screws cannot be tightened or even inserted because none of the screw holes are aligned in the slightest degree.

As it seems now, I need to remove at least AN INCH of the stock in order for the trigger to fit.

Any ideas?

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WhiteKnight
October 6, 2004, 11:56 AM
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WhiteKnight
October 6, 2004, 11:57 AM
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WhiteKnight
October 6, 2004, 11:59 AM
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WhiteKnight
October 6, 2004, 12:01 PM
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WhiteKnight
October 6, 2004, 12:05 PM
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Barrelmaker
October 6, 2004, 01:32 PM
You just need to remove some material wherever the trigger contacts the stock. Not really that big of a deal once you get to milling or dremmeling. Just remember to go slowly and recheck the fit often. The Jewell side safety and its associated levers looks like it sticks out more than the factory one. The trigger is cocked to the side because the trigger is contacting the stock on the opposite side. You can pay someone to do a little inletting, or you can get the satisfaction of doing the job yourself. Just don't let it intimidate you. Not that hard of a job. Really!

WhiteKnight
October 7, 2004, 12:36 AM
I don't have a Dremel or milling machine.

Any suggestions?

I'm not looking forward to an ardous night with a couple hundred yards of sandpaper. :(

AZRickD
October 7, 2004, 02:44 AM
1) buy a triangular, rat-tailed file.

2) remove those overly-large pics. One or two small ones would do.

Rick

HankL
October 7, 2004, 08:52 AM
A course cut round or tapered round file and a few strokes fore and aft on the trigger slot in the stock will do the trick. Here is one problem area.

El Rojo
October 7, 2004, 11:17 AM
This looks like a good excuse to go buy a dremel. You can get a basic set up for less than $50 I believe. It would be well worth it as you will run into these projects sometime in the future.

Master Blaster
October 7, 2004, 11:17 AM
Take a little tailors chalk, or regular chalk and color the sides of the trigger mechanism where it might be sticking out. carefully push it into the stock and where there is white on the inside of the stock from the part rubbing, remove some material. You could use a small file, or use a woodworking chisel to scrape the white part on the stock away carefully. Re chalk and repeat until the unit fits the stock.

YodaVader
October 8, 2004, 01:49 AM
I have the same trigger and had to relieve the laminated stock on my old 700VLS in the area where the trigger safety linkage operates. I used an air grinder with either a routing bit or a sanding type dremel attachment- was a while ago!. The safety linkage of the Jewell trigger is designed differently than the Remington unit and was the cause of my action not fitting into the stock. Have to be careful that you do not enlarging the trigger slot hole in the stock - you want to relieve just above that area. That is , if you fit problem is the same as I had. I no longer have the VLS or I would send you a pic of the work I did.

On my new 700P , it has the stock with the aluminum bedding block, there was ample clearance for the Jewell trigger.

WhiteKnight
October 12, 2004, 06:54 PM
Well, I'm a little pissed off.

I spent about two hours last night vigorously filing away what I thought was needed, and then reverting to using the blade of a pocketknife to "whittle" away plastic shavings. :(

Slowly the action got closer and closer to lying down snugly into the stock, yet the safety still woudln't work. I spent about 75% of the total time simply sanding away enough for the safety. Finally the safety lever could move back and forth with the gun inside the stock! :)

I then reassembled the rifle, and thought everything was fine.

Nope. The plastic trigger guard contacts the trigger. Okay. I snipped out a portion of the trigger guard about an inch long with scissors. No problem.

I then reassembled the rifle...

Now I find out that, once the action is firmly screwed into the stock with the action screws, THE SAFETY WILL NOT FUNCTION DUE TO CONTACT WITH THE STOCK! :cuss:

Does anyone know of a good quality DROP IN stock for a Remington 700 Long Action ADL? :banghead:

HankL
October 12, 2004, 07:18 PM
Hey man, you've almost got it dropped in. Don't give up now, just go slow and keep on at it.

762x51
October 12, 2004, 08:35 PM
Really no such thing as a completely drop in stock. EVERY stock is going to require fitting to some degree.

Just keep at it....it will work.



(may want to remove some of those pics up above though.....many folks are still on 56k)

WhiteKnight
October 12, 2004, 08:46 PM
I'll work with it some more tomorow and then update.

I apologize for the abundance and size of the pictures, and I'm unforunately unable to remove them due to the time limit on post editing. If an admin wants to take 'em off, that's fine with me.

WhiteKnight
November 14, 2004, 04:36 PM
I finally got the dern thing to work. It took the recruitment of a friend's Dremel, and about two hours more of tinkering for it to fit into the stock correctly.

However, now...

I absolutely love it.

The sweetest, crispest, cleanest trigger pull that I've ever felt in my life.

It's on my hunting .270, and I know that I need to increase the pull weight, but I can't seem to bring myself to move it from the factory one pound setting.

I sighted in my rifle over the weekend and boy, does this trigger help! No longer do I have to wait a year or two of intense pulling for the gun to fire. I simply apply firm pressure and BAM, the shot is off.

If you have an aftermarket stock that allows the Jewell to drop in, I reccomend it to the utmost degree.

If you have a factory stock, well...

All the same, I'm more than happy with the purchase, and won't hesitate to purchase another.

JohnBT
November 15, 2004, 08:34 AM
If you like the one-pound setting, but don't have a use for it, I suggest that you never try a 1.5-ounce Jewell. :)

John

bluedsteel
May 24, 2007, 11:03 PM
I found this thread after searching for any info on problems with fitting a Jewell trigger to a Remington 700...

...welp...my new Jewell HVR trigger arrived today. Attaching the trigger module to the barrelled action was not difficult. A photo on another web site helped immensely with the bolt release reassembly. FWIW, the Jewell came with NO installation instructions!

The real problems started when I placed the barrelled action into the synthetic stock of my 700 SPS...neither the safety nor the bolt release would work...yep, they were binding against the side of the stock. Both the safety lever pins and the bolt release lever pins protrude more than factory X Mark Pro trigger...

So, after about two hours of sanding, filing, and griding with a stone, I managed to get the new trigger to fit and all the levers to work properly. What a pain.

I very much like the trigger pull. Mine is set for 1 lb, and it is very similar to my Mannlicher double set trigger, but with less jarring and vibration.

Still , it was a pain to install. After I go to the range this weekend I'll let you know if it was worth it.

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YodaVader
May 25, 2007, 05:31 AM
Yes, I had the same problem some years ago when trying to place my action back into the laminated stock of my 700VLS after Jewell trigger install. Luckily I had access to a routing tool which made the job fairly quick!

Now the HS Precision stocks that Remington supplies with some of thier more expensive rifles already has adequate clearance for the Jewell trigger with safety. I was glad of this since I did not want to grind away on the aluminum bedding area when trading the VLS for a HS stocked Remington. So if you ever decide to upgrade your stock to the HS it will be total drop it.

For target work the Jewell trigger has been my most appreciated upgrade! I have used mine on 3 different 700 now , mine is et at approx. 4 oz. It makes those little groups possible on a consistent basis!

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