[sumpnz]

I asked this question over in the Accessories forum, but noone has responded over there. Since these will be used for hunting, I figure it's germain to this forum, and hopefully will get more attention.

All right, I've been looking around and I think I've settled on buying a pair of Steiner Binocs. SWFA's Sample List (http://samplelist.com/default.asp?mfg_selection=16&prod_type=2&hide_sold=false) has factory refurb'd ones that are in my price range ($100-250).

My question to you guys is this: What the heck is the difference between some of the model lines. They all appear to be porro prism, and very similar in outward appearance. Which ones have the better light transmission, image clarity, ruggedness, etc.

I'm probably going to go for either one of the 8x30 or 9x40 pairs, but is there really any significant difference between the Hunter/Safari/Big Horn/Predator/Military Marine/etc models. In other words, tell me why I should spend $300 on the 8x30 Night Hunters, vs $200 on the 9x40 Safari, vs $100 on the 8x30 Firebird, vs something in between.

I will be using these binocs for hunting deer in SE Arizona, though I may be eventually moving to somewhere more forrested in the future. Some of the 10x50, 12x30 and 12x40 sets are also in my price range, but even with the long distances involved in glassing while hunting in AZ I'm not sure if those would be a good idea. Some advise there would also be appreciated.

[Smoke Rizen]

I have a pair of the Predator 8X30 that I've used for about 7 years. I am very pleased with the light gathering quality and the overall clarity. I hunt Co. and many times you're looking down in a shady canyon from a sunlit hill and they filter out the light allowing me to see in. The lens seems to give you a more defined picture, it's like, a little 3-D? I've been with others at daylight and dusk, when the light gets flat, and been able to clearly see a stump or rock when they swore it was an Elk. The 3x8 is all I want to carry, with all my other trappin's, and they've done all I need out to 1000 yards. The Predators I have are always in focus, which has worked out great for me.
Best of luck on your quest, S.R.

[Kingcreek]

I've used a pair of the 8x30 military stieners for years. replaced the cheapo GI Joe strap with a Vellini neoprene strap and have used them pretty hard. They are light weight and rugged. The auto focus works great without significant eye fatigue.

[sumpnz]

I'm almost set on Steiner 9x40 Bighorns. They are $250 brand new, vs $225 refurb'd, so I'll go ahead and go for new, since the savings is so small. Someone tell me why I should get a different set.

[Harve Curry]

I have the Predator 12x40. Gone through 3 pairs. The 1st ones did real well I sent them in to be cleaned and Steiner sent me a new pair with rain covers on the eye pieces. They leaked and fogged up on the first rain last month. Got a new pair in last week free replacement again.

I only wish they were brighter image when the daylights dim, but they are 12 power with only a 40mm opening. There a good deal for the money.

One tip: if you buy them from Sportsmans Guide they have a 100% satisfaction additional warranty.

[sumpnz]

Well, I've just ordered the Steiner 9x40 Bighorns. I'll post here when I get them with a report on the quality.

[45crittergitter]

My 7x50G is very bright, light for its size. Love it.