Galyan's Discountinuing handguns


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Wolfy
October 7, 2004, 10:41 AM
I heard this last night that since Dick's bought Galyan's they are phasing out handguns. They will sell off the remaining inventory and then thats it. They are offering $25 off any handgun less than $500 and $50 off handguns over $500.

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SJG26
October 7, 2004, 11:41 AM
Please cite sources and back up where ever possible-------the statement was made a few days/weeks ago on here and looks like its growing legs now!

El Tejon
October 7, 2004, 12:09 PM
"My source, the Internet." Peggy Hill, citizen of the Republic of Texas.:D

sturmruger
October 7, 2004, 12:10 PM
I hate to see any big name retailer stop selling handguns. Gaylans never did have good enoug pricing to inspire me to want to buy from them.

SteveS
October 7, 2004, 12:16 PM
Gaylans never did have good enoug pricing to inspire me to want to buy from them.

Unfortunately, where I live, their prices were/are way better than other shops. I hope this turns out to just be a rumor.

farscott
October 7, 2004, 12:18 PM
I just called my local Galyan's (Town Center Commons in Kennesaw, GA) and spoke to "Bob" in the "Hunting Department" (ext. 343). I asked for a price on a Ruger Mark II. He informed me that as a result of the purchase by Dick's, Galyan's is now "out of the handgun business". He also provided me with the names of three local dealers that would welcome my business.

Seems like this one is not an Internet rumor.

hollowhandle
October 7, 2004, 12:22 PM
I was at the one in Frisco, TX 2 weeks ago. The gun desk manager helped me with a price match on ammo. He thin informed me about the discontinuation of Pistol sales. He said he know it was coming for a month or so because he was not getting any new pistol supplies or magazines.
Chip

GigaBuist
October 7, 2004, 12:22 PM
Well, there goes my only reason for stopping in there to browse.

This might not be a reaction to anything "PC" either -- they could just be poor sellers for them due to the slightly higher prices.

Darkside
October 7, 2004, 12:27 PM
Galyans in Overland Park, KS had fairly decent prices on their firearms. The thing I will mis most about Galyans is the local selection of GOOD camping/backpacking gear, not the so-so Coleman stuff you can get a Walmart.

Darkside

Wolfy
October 7, 2004, 12:41 PM
My source is a retired LEO who now works the gun counter. I posted this because I figured him to be a reliable source and not something I read on the internet.

RobW
October 7, 2004, 12:47 PM
Another one with no reason to browse again and buy some gadgets in other departments.

treeprof
October 7, 2004, 01:06 PM
Dick's will not sell handguns, and neither will Galyans now that Dick's owns them. As farscott wrote, handguns are already gone from Galyan's around Atlanta. In fact, the coupon for handgun discounts in their last advert came after the handguns had already disappeared from under the counters.

mtnbkr
October 7, 2004, 01:23 PM
I was in Galyans in Fairfax last week and they still had many handguns in the case.

Chris

Harry Tuttle
October 7, 2004, 01:45 PM
Galyan's stores bought by Dick's Sporting Goods chain
http://www.gazette.net/200440/business/news/238618-1.html

David S. Spence/The Gazette

Dick's Sporting Goods Inc. of Pittsburgh bought Galyan's Trading Co. Inc. for $360 million. The deal includes this Galyan's store in Gaithersburg's Washingtonian Center.

The clock is running out for Galyan's.

The sporting-goods chain, among the pioneers in "interactive" retailing with rock-climbing walls and putting greens in its stores, has been sold to Dick's Sporting Goods Inc.

All four dozen Galyan's, including the trendy two-level store in Gaithersburg's Washingtonian Center, are expected to be converted to Dick's in the first half of next year.

Dick's, a Pittsburgh company that started five decades ago as a bait-and-tackle shop, wrapped up its $360 million deal for Galyan's Trading Co. Inc. in late July.

"We're very focused on that core athlete or outdoor enthusiast," Edward W. Stack, Dick's CEO, said last week at an investment conference. Officials at Galyan's could not be reached for comment.

"If you look at the merchandise mix, Dick's has focused on equipment (known as) the hard lines," said Reed Anderson, a senior analyst at Friedman, Billings, Ramsey Group Inc., an Arlington, Va., investment banking and brokerage.

Sales in hard lines, such as equipment, nears 60 percent, Anderson said, while Galyan's was under 50 percent.

About 40 percent of Galyan's sales were apparel, while Dick's clothing sales hover around 20 percent.

"They execute well," said Anderson, who does not own stock in Dick's. "The store will look clean and tight."

The combined company, projecting about $2.2 billion in sales this year, will be the nation's third-largest sporting goods retailer, behind Wal-Mart and The Sports Authority, according to reports prepared for investors.

Most of Dick's stores are east of the Mississippi River, and by year's end the company plans to have 239 stores in 33 states.

The deal gives Dick's an immediate foothold in lucrative suburban markets, including Chicago, Atlanta, Denver and Dallas, executives said at a Banc of America Securities investment conference last week in San Francisco.

"The strategic rationale for this acquisition was that it is primarily a real-estate play," Stack said. "We have a number of the two-level stores operating today. We're very comfortable with the returns we're able to have delivered out of those units."

Stack is the son of the chain's founder, Richard "Dick" Stack.

The 100,584-square-foot store along Washingtonian Center's retail main street opened in July 1998 and was an immediate magnet with its climbing wall, interactive displays and broad selection of upscale sporting goods and apparel.

Galyan's only other Washington, D.C.-area store is in Fairfax, Va. The company is based in Plainfield, Ind.

Analysts say Dick's, with $1.47 billion in sales in its last fiscal year, is a strong performer and gaining quickly on others in the $45 billion sporting-goods market.

Smaller sporting-goods retailers are mostly likely to be pinched by the deal, they said.

Dick's began re-engineering its business plan about eight years ago and hopes to grow sales of its private-label goods between 12 percent and 15 percent in the coming year, company executives said.

"We are in a highly fragmented market," said Michael F. Hines, the company's CFO, at the conference.

The nation's top five sporting-goods retailers account for just over 10 percent of the market, he said.

45 Carry
October 7, 2004, 01:45 PM
I was in Galyan's in Des Peres, MO (St. Louis) and they had 3 cases of pistols for sale and as many racks of rifles and shotguns.

Wolfy
October 7, 2004, 01:53 PM
The pistols they have in stock are it once that inventory runs out they will no longer sell handguns.

Waitone
October 7, 2004, 02:02 PM
What? No email to the new owner? They are free to do whatever they want but there are consequences to those actions.

JohnBT
October 7, 2004, 04:14 PM
"while Dick's clothing sales hover around 20 percent."

No kidding, it's always on sale at the end of the season to get rid of it. I love to buy clothing at Dick's. It's always marked way, way, way down and they always have plenty in my size - and you know that Large and XL typically sells out first at most places.

The first Galyans barely gets open here and now it's on the way out. Just what we need around here, more Dick's.

Good thing we have better gun stores hereabouts.

John

mack69
October 7, 2004, 04:26 PM
No hand guns or rifles up here in northern Illinois....Only shotguns...and few of those...

Lord Bodak
October 7, 2004, 05:03 PM
We have a Galyan's and a Dick's pretty close together. Except for the fact that they carry (carried?) handguns, there was nothing at Galyan's to bring me back. Dick's has the best 10/22 prices around and occasionally has a good ammo deal-- but in light of this I may not shop there again.

greg531mi
October 7, 2004, 05:04 PM
The one here in Grand Rapids Michigan still has a lot of pistols still in stock, but when they are gone, they are gone. Too bad another store gets sucked up by a another. Galyans did have good prices on their guns, and they handled a lot of stuff, no one else handled, with a lot of sporting goods. Dicks has a limited supply of goods, and don't know what they are going to put in those mega stores. I have actually bought more stuff from dicks than galyans, it seems their prices are better, but don't handle as much.
Does anyone have Dicks e-mail? So we can tell them of our displeasure of not handling handguns?

Monkeyleg
October 7, 2004, 06:31 PM
If people continue to buy from the discount and chain stores instead of the independent shops, this will be the future.

Standing Wolf
October 7, 2004, 08:29 PM
The last time I was in a Galyans, the individual behind the counter "needed" to see my driver's license before letting me look at a used Colt Detective Special. The gun was in sorry shape and grossly overpriced. I haven't been back: I don't care to be insulted by shop keepers.

m39fan
October 7, 2004, 11:01 PM
I don't think e-mails to Dick's would accomplish much. Most salespeople I have dealt with at Dick's have made it clear they don't even want long guns in the store. Galyan's usually would deal with you and being a Hoosier, I was glad that an Indiana company was providing jobs. So much for that! I know that the origianl store in Plainfield is being shut down and the rumor is that the BRAND NEW Greenwood store is next just because a new Dick's was built close by. My 9 yr. old daughter is TICKED :fire: becuase she'll have to find another place with a rock wall!!! All in all, it's sad........

JPL
October 7, 2004, 11:01 PM
That's the first I've heard of the sale, and I have to say that I'm VERY sorry to hear it.

I stopped going to Dicks some years ago because A) their selection stinks, B) their prices on the limited range of items they do have stink, C) the attitude of the employees stinks.

Looks like it's back to REI and Hudson Bay Outfitters (and their drastically higher prices) for me.

bad_dad_brad
October 7, 2004, 11:19 PM
I buy all my guns from my trusted local small business dealer.

Although our Galyans in Peoria, Illinois had one heck of a handgun selection, and it was fun to sample their stock, I would not buy from them because their sales people were not knowledgable, and well, I would rather support my local economy.

fistful
October 8, 2004, 12:52 AM
Why is anybody buying at these massive chain stores? Support your local gun shops, people. I'm no economist - maybe I'm wrong - but it seems to me if we'd go to the gun shops for our guns and gear, higher volume sales would help their prices would come down some. In any case, don't those guns stores donate a lot of the money we spend there to RKBA groups?

Like I said, I could be wrong on the economics, but I watched two guns shops close in my hometown. :(

No offense to Bass Pro, Cabela's, etc., as hunters are a big chunk of their business.

Bobster
October 8, 2004, 09:32 AM
The sale is a done deal. It's a fact. Dick's will be converting all the Galyon's to Dick's. The merchandise mix will be the same as Dick's current mix. This is where Dick's positioning has found the money to be. The largest sales and profit store in the Dick's listing is in Columbia,MD where they sell TONS of athletic program team equipment to all the junior sports teams in Howard County. It is also one of the most dilapidated stores in the chain and due to be renovated. If you were Dick's what would you do?
BOB

flatrock
October 8, 2004, 11:03 AM
They were finally building a Galyan's near where I live. Galyan's carried a lot of things Dick's doesn't carry, and definately a lot better selection of outdoors clothing.

Hopefully they'll finsih the building and some other outdoor store will move in. I doubt it will become a Dicks considering you can see the current Dick's store from where the Galyan's was being built.

SteveS
October 8, 2004, 01:31 PM
Pardon my language, but Dick's sucks. At least the one in Lansing, MI does. Don't get me wrong. If I were in the market for golf clubs or running shoes, I would be there. The local Galyans had a lot of clothes, but they also had a decent gun selection, decent prices, an plenty of hunting and camping gear. They certainly had more than Dicks.

As for my local gun shops. There have been several comments about supporting the local economy and their support of gun rights. The big chain stores hire local people, pay them a wage, and pay taxes which go to support the local economy. As for support of gun rights, I don't know if the local shops do anything beyond putting out NRA flyers and ads for CCW classes (which Galyans also does). Don't get me wrong, I do shop at local gun shop, but it is 90 miles from where I live. The ones that are closer fall into two categories:
1. High prices and bad service.
2. High prices and mediocre service.
Sorry, I am not going to keep them in business just because it is the "right" thing to do.

Valkman
October 8, 2004, 03:40 PM
We have a "trendy, two level" Galyans in Henderson in the "trendy, two level" Galleria Mall. In other words I don't go there unless I have to. The few times I have been in there the gun salespeople were jerks and never offered to help me - just ignored me. That was all I needed to stay well clear of that place. Then they send me coupons and the list of things excluded from the discount takes 10 minutes to read! No thanks!

eldomatic
October 8, 2004, 11:01 PM
I won't lose any sleep when Galyan's goes bye-bye. Here in the Twin Cities, Gander Mountain has much better sales staff, better stock, good prices and great service. The guys behind the gun counter at my local Gander are retired LEO, firearms instructors and/or hunters who know their stuff.

Monkeyleg
October 9, 2004, 12:25 AM
And, when Rosie O'Donnel or others of her ilk are able to bully Gander Mountain into not selling handguns, or EBR's, then where are you going to go?

These are big corporations, and they bend and twist to political/social pressures.

The guy down the block who owns a shop that charges $10 more for a Remington 870 Express is far more likely to stand up for your Second Amendment rights than some beancounter at Gander Mountain's corporate office. (Or Galyan's, or Sportsmen's Warehouse, or any of the other discount/chain stores).

Lord Bodak
October 9, 2004, 11:33 AM
My roommate and I went to Galyan's last night to check out the handgun selection and see if there were any deals. The handgun selection was down to maybe 25% what it was when they first opened (about 6 months ago), and everything was on sale. Nothing particularly compelling. Our Dick's has a much better ammunition selection than Galyan's. Galyan's has a better accessory selection-- holsters, a lot of scopes and rings, and good selection of cleaning supplies. Dick's has a few scopes and rings, and a decent cleaning section. I'm disappointed in the decision to drop handgun sales, because they were really the only thing that would get me into the store.

txgho1911
October 9, 2004, 03:21 PM
Dick's stores where built brand new over the last 18 months to compete with Galyans stores across the street. Including the new location replacing a the a tornado closed. Size content and layout allmost the same. No handguns in Dick's store.

Shovelhead
October 9, 2004, 05:43 PM
Just got back from the Galyan's in Fairfax, Va

Counter-dude stated that the handguns in the counter were at the 'sale' price and that some handguns from other stores would be shipped to them to sell.
Once they're gone, they're gone.

Still to pricey for me.

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