Hungarian 7.62x54r made in 1969


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Roon
October 10, 2004, 06:01 PM
I just picked up a can of Hungarian 7.62x54r, headstamp 21 69, made in 1969 (duh) with no color tip to the bullet, indicating it's 148 gr. $40 for 440 rounds.

http://www.albaedit.com/TFL/Galvanized%20Entry%20sm.jpg

http://www.albaedit.com/TFL/HungarianRoundAndWrapper%20sm.jpg

Anyone have any experience with this cartridge?

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George S.
October 10, 2004, 06:39 PM
Seems like a pretty good price for a whole can. And you had the right tools to get it open :D

Is plain tip really 147gr? in all of that caliber?? I have some Russian stuff wrapped in a similar fashion and from the marks on the headstamp, it's supposedly 205 gr. I had found this page that describes the various tip colors and what weights were made: http://www.mosinnagant.net/t3p.asp

Roon
October 10, 2004, 07:03 PM
Great page... I didn't find that one.
Is plain tip really 147gr? That's what I read here (http://www.ak-47.net/ammo/762x54r.html). It's also what the sales guy told me. It's the first of the caliber I've bought, so it's all new to me.

I definitely like the price! :D

Moparmike
October 10, 2004, 08:18 PM
147gr??? Wouldn't that be akin to a 110gr pill coming out of a .30-06?:what:

Roon
October 10, 2004, 09:55 PM
Here's another source : http://www.mosinnagant.net/h4ngary.asp. I can't come up with anything for the code "7.62 L gzs", the previous link (above, ak47) does list "7.62 L".

Roon
October 10, 2004, 10:05 PM
Moparmike,

The 147/148 gr bullet seems to be the best for the Mosin-Nagant. Heavier weights seem to throw the accuracy way out, or so I've heard. (I haven't shot my new weapons yet, hence the search for help on this ammo.)

Wolf is now producing a 148gr bullet in the caliber.

Snowdog
October 10, 2004, 11:09 PM
Sounds like a good deal to me, Roon.

I came close to picking up a tin of Hungarian yellow tip (174gr lead core?) 7.62x54R on the cheap at the last gunshow I attended, but I heard wildly varying reports of the accuracy of this ammunition.

I'll agree with the 148gr fodder being a safe bet. Both the Wolf 148gr and Czech 148gr steel core FMJ fodder prints the best groups out of both my 91/30 and Soviet M44. Seems less abusive to the shoulder than Wolf's 200gr SP.

Sam Adams
October 11, 2004, 12:16 PM
Snowdog,

How good are the groups on your 91/30, and are you using the issue sights or something else? Also, is the Czech corrosive?

jefnvk
October 11, 2004, 12:56 PM
Simple fact to save your guns: Communist = Corrosive. I have some Norinco 7,62x39, that is labeled NC, but I still clean as corrosive. It is a small effort that will ensure you have a nice gun. An, it isn't that hard to do/

My 91/30 will hit three touching at 50 yards, with Czech light ball.

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