FBI agent attacked, shoots man


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Edmond
October 11, 2004, 11:49 AM
From the October 11, 2004 Chicago Tribune,

An FBI agent shot a man who attempted to rob her Sunday afternoon outside an Edgewater apartment building, authorities say.

The man approached the woman about 12:15 p.m. as she stood on the landing of an apartment building in the 5600 block of North Wayne Avenue, dragged her down concrete steps and punched and bit her as she lay on her back, according to witnesses and Chicago police investigators at the scene.

Police and FBI officials confirmed tha the agent fired her gun and wounded a man in what was believe to be an attempted robbery but would not reveal the agent's name.

Juan Escandon, 33, said he was parking his car nearby when he saw the tussle begin. Escandon said he got out of his car, approached the man and yelled at him to stop beating the woman. He said the woman, who he later learned was an FBI agent, screamed at the man not to rape her.

When he was only a few feet away from them, Escandon said, the woman pulled a handgun from an ankle holster and shot the man in the upper torso.

"I was scared and ran back toward my house for cover," Escandon said.

Witnesses said the man muttered an obscenity at the agent after he was wounded, staggered to hi car and fled in a two car Dode. About two blocks away, the man lost control of the car and crashed into the wall of a coin laundry at Ridge and Magnolia avenues, said a police investigator who asked not to be identified.

The crash appeared to cause little damage to the business or the car, and the vehicle stood wrapped in yellow police tape as customers went about their business hours after the incident.

Connie Trujillo, 14, whose mother owns a nearby beauty salon, was doing her family's laundry when the car crashed. Amid the din of the washers and dryers, she said she didn't notice the crash until another patron alerted her.

Trujillo said at least two customers went outside to assist eh man, who was shirtless and bleeding from the upper torso.

"You could tell [his injury] wasn't from the car crash," Trujillo said.

JoAnn Taylor, a police spokeswoman, said the man ws taken to Advocate Illinois Masonic Medical Center with injuries that were not believed to be life threatening. No charges had been filed late Sunday, and it was unclear if the man knew the woman was an FBI agent.

At the apartment building, witnesses said the agent calmly collected herself and called 911 and her FBI office on a borrowed cell phone to report the attack.

Hannah Ato, 27, said she came out of her apartment with her husband to help the woman and heard her tell the dispatchers that she was at the building picking up mail for a friend who was out of town.

"She had a big gash of a bite mark on her leg and her hair was pulled, but she was really calm," Ato said.

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Henry Bowman
October 11, 2004, 12:18 PM
A woman shouldn't carry a gun for protection. It will just be taken away and used against her. :rolleyes:

In a followup story, the owner and occupants of the coin laundry sued seventeen gun manufacturers, including the maker of the assailant's [sic] semi-automatic, high capacity weapon, for damages caused by gun violence.

Witnesses said the man muttered an obscenity at the agent after he was wounded
Come on! Tell us what he said! :what:

armoredman
October 11, 2004, 12:22 PM
Unfortunately, you're probably right. Since they can't sue the agent for defending herself, or the criminal, who has nothing, but the gun makers, oh, yeah! Big bucks time! Scumbags.....

griz
October 11, 2004, 02:10 PM
Good outcome:
1. Fight back, shoot attacker
2. dial 911 on borrowed cell phone
3. wait for police and rescue to show up to arrest bad guy and patch him up.

Not so good outcome:
1. Submit, give bad guy money.
2. Hope he onlt wants money instead of assulting you.
3. dial 911 on borrowed cell phone
4. wait for police and rescue to show up to investigate and patch you up.

I'm happy for her that it worked out. It does make you wonder why other Chicago citizens are not allowed the same right to defence.

Edmond
October 11, 2004, 02:16 PM
griz,

It makes me wonder as well. If this lady wasn't a LEO, criminal or politician, she wouldn't be armed. Being that the majority of people in Chicago aren't either one of those, they would've been raped, robbed and possibly killed.

Only in Chicago where the stupid laws make sure that the citizens can't defend themselves. Call the police? By the time they get there, it'll only be to file the victims report.:mad:

R.H. Lee
October 11, 2004, 02:18 PM
Why was an armed FBI agent in condition white to begin with?

Carlos Cabeza
October 11, 2004, 02:39 PM
Should have went to slide lock and rid the earth of vermin such as this.:fire:

mack69
October 11, 2004, 03:00 PM
Thsi story really caught my eye as I am a resident of Illinois and a suburban neighbor of Chicago (live about 30+ miles NW). It said no charges were filed against the agent. What treally torques me about this is that it was ok for the agent to shoot the BG but if it would have been me or mrsmack we would be in jail as it is illegal to own or carry or shoot a weapon in Chicago. Nice that the agent was ok but imagine the story would have been like all the others on the nightly news if it were a regular joe that got attacked. mack

Edmond
October 11, 2004, 03:02 PM
Mack,

Those are my thoughts. If my significant other was the victim, she wouldn't have had the gun and would've been the victim. In that particular situation, she turned the perp into the victim.

Tharg
October 11, 2004, 04:38 PM
Yeap - classic senario where when you can defend yourself - you do.

Seeing as her pleading and trying to fight off the man wasn't working.

go figure.

J/Tharg!

Archie
October 11, 2004, 04:55 PM
...beating the woman... the woman, who he later learned was an FBI agent, screamed at the man not to rape her...the woman pulled a handgun from an ankle holster and shot the man in the upper torso.

Witnesses said the man muttered an obscenity at the agent after he was wounded, staggered to hi car and fled in a two car Dode... (Maybe a two door Dodge?)

Note to Chicago resident FBI agent: Commence remedial 'double-tab' training next firearms qualification cycle. Also institute concept training regarding 'stopping power'.
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I'm glad the good guys are okay and the bad guy is in custody. However, the citizens of Chicago should go to town on the city government regarding why they are victims. They won't though. They are all loyal Democrats who would rather have a Daly in the Mayor's office.

And if anyone objects to that statement, prove me wrong.

Standing Wolf
October 11, 2004, 05:59 PM
Too bad commoners in Chicago are prohibited by law from defending their lives.

Ukraine Train
October 11, 2004, 08:24 PM
http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-metro111.html

Another article on this:

A 34-year-old, off-duty FBI agent shot and wounded a man who tried to rob her Sunday on the North Side. The agent was hurt in the scuffle, but her injuries were not considered life-threatening, officials said. The incident happened in the Edgewater area about noon in the 5600 block of North Wayne when the agent was about to enter a building, Chicago Police said. The offender approached her from behind, said, "This is a stickup," and hit her on the side of the face with a small black gun, police said. The agent identified herself as an FBI agent, and the two struggled, falling down stairs and onto the sidewalk, police said. The agent fired a shot into the man, hitting him in the shoulder, police said. He was taken to Advocate Illinois Masonic Medical Center. It's unclear if the would-be robber was shot with his own gun or the agent's. The FBI released few details. Agency spokesman Ross Rice said that "there could be criminal charges filed in state court, federal court or both. We'll see."





There's also this:

Principal faces gun charges

The principal of a South Side elementary school is being stripped of his position pending the outcome of an investigation into the discovery of dozens of allegedly unregistered guns in his home, officials said Sunday. John Lewis, 50, of the 9300 block of South Claremont, was charged with 61 counts of possessing unregistered firearms after the guns were found by authorities in his home over the weekend, Chicago Police said. Lewis is principal of Libby Elementary School at 53rd and Loomis. "He did have a valid FOID [firearm owner's identification] card, for one weapon," a police spokeswoman said. "We will be pulling him from the school; we'll be assigning an acting principal pending the outcome of the whole matter," said Chicago Public Schools spokesman Peter Cunningham. "No one can recall anything exactly like this." Libby has more than 800 students enrolled in pre-kindergarten through eighth grade, according to an education Web site.

JohnKSa
October 11, 2004, 08:32 PM
Should have went to slide lockAgree.

I also think it's sickening that a non-LEO would have not had the firearms option legally available.

Mannlicher
October 11, 2004, 09:06 PM
The FBI should fire her for being grossly incompetant. Getting herself in that fix to start with shows zero situational awarness. Shooting him and not killing him shows even more. What a joke.

sendec
October 11, 2004, 09:39 PM
There really is'nt a whole lot of info one way or the other regarding her situational awareness or lack thereof.

LEOS do not "shoot to kill,", we shoot to stop. As everyone is quick to point out, punishment is not within our job description.

Mal H
October 11, 2004, 09:50 PM
Most everything's already been covered. The only question remaining is - what is a "two car Dode"??

Hardtarget
October 11, 2004, 09:51 PM
Confirms why I don't visit Chicago. I know it can happen right here in Nashville, (and does quite often), but at least here I still have the right to have an effective tool for self defense. I wish my wife would make the move and get her permit.
Mark.

rock jock
October 11, 2004, 10:23 PM
The principal of a South Side elementary school is being stripped of his position pending the outcome of an investigation into the discovery of dozens of allegedly unregistered guns in his home, officials said Sunday. John Lewis, 50, of the 9300 block of South Claremont, was charged with 61 counts of possessing unregistered firearms after the guns were found by authorities in his home over the weekend, Chicago Police said. Lewis is principal of Libby Elementary School at 53rd and Loomis. "He did have a valid FOID [firearm owner's identification] card, for one weapon," a police spokeswoman said. "We will be pulling him from the school; we'll be assigning an acting principal pending the outcome of the whole matter," said Chicago Public Schools spokesman Peter Cunningham. "No one can recall anything exactly like this." Libby has more than 800 students enrolled in pre-kindergarten through eighth grade, according to an education Web site.
I can't believe this happened in America. This is absolutely criminal. What makes me even more sick is the subtle reference to the children Mr. Lewis has charge over, as though his status as a gunowner makes him a dangerous person. Sickening.

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