"40% of bear hunters are drug addicts or mentally unstable"


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jsalcedo
October 13, 2004, 12:10 PM
http://www.washingtontimes.com/metro/20041009-112600-4161r.htm

Mailing takes shot at bear hunters

By Robert Redding Jr.
THE WASHINGTON TIMES


A Rockville animal-rights activist has sent out a mass mailing to property owners in Garrett County, Md., stating they should not allow bear hunters on their properties because 40 percent of them are drug addicts, drunks or mentally unstable.
Earle D. Hightower, chairman of the Institute for Public Safety, a 27-member group mainly concerned with such issues as traffic and smog, acknowledges the statistic printed on 600 cards is phony, but says it's all for the cause.


"My personal opinion is that anybody who goes out and shoots helpless animals has a psychiatric problem," said Mr. Hightower, 82, a former hunter and World War II veteran. "Logically, statistically if you look at a sample of the regular population, certain people will have some kind of psychiatric problems."

The hunt is scheduled for Oct. 25 through 30. It will end when hunters have killed 30 bears out of an estimated statewide population of 500. If fewer than 30 are killed, a second hunt will be held Dec. 6 through 11. It will be Maryland's first black bear hunt in 51 years.

Steven Christian, president of the Maryland Sportsman's Association, is not amused by Mr. Hightower's efforts.
"I am exploring my options right now for what can really be done about this," said Mr. Christian, president of the Maryland Sportsman's Association. "I believe this gentleman overstepped the bounds of decency."

Mr. Hightower said he plans to distribute another 400 of the 5-by-8-inch cards because he is concerned about residents' safety.
"You hear about hunting accidents all the time," he said. "Of course every year somebody gets shot during a hunting accident."

Mr. Hightower, who maintains he is a former National Rifle Association member, said he also is concerned about the "helpless" bears.
"These black bears are reclusive animals," he said. "They don't like to be around people and they are easy to shoot."

The Maryland Department of Natural Resources has issued 200 permits for the hunt.
Officials estimate that about 400 of the state's roughly 500 bears are in a section of Allegany County west of Cumberland. They want the hunt, in part, to reduce the likelihood of bear-human conflicts.

A judge in Prince George's County has scheduled a hearing Oct. 18 on a lawsuit filed by animal-protection advocates in September seeking to stop the hunt.

Their petition claims state officials used flawed science and violated statutory deadlines in authorizing the hunt.

In September, Gov. Robert L. Ehrlich Jr., a Republican, approved a plan to allow the hunt, reversing a policy instituted by his predecessor, Gov. Parris N. Glendening, a Democrat.
•This article is based in part on wire service reports.

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cuchulainn
October 13, 2004, 12:27 PM
Earle D. Hightower, chairman of the Institute for Public Safety, a 27-member group mainly concerned with such issues as traffic and smog, acknowledges the statistic printed on 600 cards is phony, but says it's all for the cause.


"My personal opinion is that anybody who goes out and shoots helpless animals has a psychiatric problem," said Mr. Hightower, 82, a former hunter and World War II veteran. "Logically, statistically if you look at a sample of the regular population, certain people will have some kind of psychiatric problems." Wow.

JPL
October 13, 2004, 12:33 PM
A common tactic that we used in my days in the misguided liberal mob.

Any statement, no matter how false, is OK because it's "all for the right cause."

Nathaniel Firethorn
October 13, 2004, 12:34 PM
Hightower obviously suffers from a severe case of venatiophobia. (http://cawley.archives.nd.edu/cgi-bin/lookdown.pl?hunting)

(I dunno the Latin stuff so feel free to correct.)

- pdmoderator

Cosmoline
October 13, 2004, 12:34 PM
I think a lawsuit would be in order. He's admitted he's lied outright, and the group he's targetting (bear hunters in Md.) is extremely small and pretty easy to define. I assume the hunters have all had to go through red tape to get the permits, so you already have your class right there. A class action by them against him might well hold up.

goon
October 13, 2004, 12:37 PM
While we are slinging insults, I am firmly convinced that the reason that most liberals don't own guns is because most of them can't pass the background check.

Lobotomy Boy
October 13, 2004, 12:45 PM
I know you're just joking, goon, but most liberals I know could pass a background check. The reason they don't own guns has more to do with their idealistic, Utopian world views. They see the world in symbolic terms rather than concrete terms. Guns symbolize violence, they fear violence, and thus they fear guns. It's been my experience that trying to insert logic into their child-like take on life is a futile effort.

Kharn
October 13, 2004, 12:45 PM
A bear isnt exactly helpless...

Kharn

JL2152
October 13, 2004, 12:59 PM
How can someone not only get away with this thats insane. Further more how can some one belive its moral to flat out lie for a cause

birddog
October 13, 2004, 01:05 PM
"These black bears are reclusive animals," he said. "They don't like to be around people and they are easy to shoot."

Prefacing this with the fact that I am an avid bear hunter (though, perhaps disappointingly, I am boringly stable and don't abuse drugs)...even if I wasn't a hunter, wouldn't the above statement set off logic-alarms?

Reclusive = easy to shoot? Does not compute.

El Tejon
October 13, 2004, 01:17 PM
And they would prefer the alleged bears eat their children?:scrutiny:

TallPine
October 13, 2004, 01:44 PM
Well, I think bare hunters are mentally unstable, too.

It can get cold this time of year.

:neener:

Standing Wolf
October 13, 2004, 02:23 PM
My personal opinion is that anybody who goes out and shoots helpless animals has a psychiatric problem...

Wrong. People who tell lies have psychological problems.

cslinger
October 13, 2004, 02:39 PM
62.795436% of animal lovers are homosexuals.
43.9932165% of liberals are child molesters.
84.5325256% of mini-van drivers are impotent.

See I can play this game to. Ooo how about this one.

98.99355352% of politicians are closet megalomanics

65.41415565% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

Heck as long as we are out and out lying here........

I am a Medical Doctor.
I am the smartest human being to ever walk the face of the earth.
I can shoot .256 inch groups at a hundred yards with a tech nine from the hip.
I am the second coming of the Lord.

The only thing that outrages me more than people who create and fabricate out and out lies to further their agenda is the people dumb enough to believe it without so much as checking one fact. :banghead:

Harry Tuttle
October 13, 2004, 03:15 PM
99.9 percent of liberal activists are not savy enough to remove themselves from the google phone number directory
http://www.google.com/search?sa=X&oi=fwp&pb=f&q=Earle+Hightower+rockville

FPrice
October 13, 2004, 03:17 PM
"Earle D. Hightower, chairman of the Institute for Public Safety, a 27-member group mainly concerned with such issues as traffic and smog, acknowledges the statistic printed on 600 cards is phony, but says it's all for the cause.

"My personal opinion is that anybody who goes out and shoots helpless animals has a psychiatric problem," said Mr. Hightower, 82, a former hunter and World War II veteran."

MY personal opinion is that anyone who acknowledges using phoney statistics "for the cause" has a psychiatric problem.

2nd Amendment
October 13, 2004, 03:23 PM
Sorry, cslinger, you must be the third coming of the Lord. I was the Second Coming and 62.8% of people surveyed agree.

cslinger
October 13, 2004, 03:41 PM
2A,

The sad thing is I bet you and I could get find at least 10 people that we could sell that idea to by the end of the week.

There is a reason marketing and propaganda works. It works because the average target of it is, shall we say, a little slow on the uptake.

Chris

armoredman
October 13, 2004, 03:47 PM
I'm not a Medical Doctor, but I do play one on TV! :p

FPrice
October 13, 2004, 03:59 PM
I am not an expert...but I did stay in a Holiday Express Inn last night.

Linux&Gun Guy
October 13, 2004, 04:36 PM
80% of people that own a gun shoot a gun(s)

the world is 3% chance of dissolving into a carpet right now

I can control peoples minds and shoot fireballs from my hands

I am gods other son!

spacemanspiff
October 13, 2004, 05:15 PM
ooo oooo oooo! i got one!

123% of women that have met me have turned down my romantic advances.

(the extra 23% is from women that didnt recognize me after i shaved my head and rejected me the second time.) :D

Nightfall
October 13, 2004, 05:30 PM
You would think that if you have to resort to outright lies and false statistics to push your agenda, something would click in your head saying you're wrong.

"Hmm, I can't seem to find logical reasons to back up my position. But I'm still right! So that means it's okay to lie, because I'm right. Even though, factually speaking, I'm wrong. Yep, makes sense to me!"

:rolleyes:

Lobotomy Boy
October 13, 2004, 05:39 PM
"98.99355352% of politicians are closet megalomanics"

The only thing incorrect about this stat is that they are all out of the closet.

Wayne D
October 13, 2004, 06:13 PM
Bears are easy to shoot. :rolleyes:


This kind of reminds me of the argument on a Jeep board about whether hunting was a sport or not. The true "outdoorsmen" (mountain bikers and rock climbers) claimed hunting was not a real sport because it was so easy.:rolleyes:


BTW, I'm not flaming all mountain bikers and rock climbers, it's just that these jerks thought that it qualified them as expert outdoorsmen and naturalists.

moa
October 13, 2004, 06:14 PM
I got a another whopper for ya. The Kerry campaign is blaming Bush for the flu vaccine shortage.

TallPine
October 13, 2004, 06:20 PM
What do you expect ...?

50% of the people in this country are below average intelligence

:D

Bruce H
October 13, 2004, 07:20 PM
Lets coat Mr. Hightower with honey and drop him in a thicket. Check on the statistical chances of him reaching 83.

anapex
October 13, 2004, 07:36 PM
Sooooo who's up for a bear license next year? :evil:

DRZinn
October 13, 2004, 07:37 PM
"Hmm, I can't seem to find logical reasons to back up my position. But I'm still right! So that means it's okay to lie, because I'm right. Even though, factually speaking, I'm wrong. Yep, makes sense to me!"
Remind anyone of a certain prominent news anchor?

SMLE
October 13, 2004, 08:26 PM
Hunters are drug addicts...

Homosexuals are pederasts.
Jews are money grubbing skinflints.
Military women are lesbians.
Women secretly want to be raped
The earth is flat

I belive it so it MUST be true! :barf:

ilcylic
October 13, 2004, 09:06 PM
I dunno... I mean, I respect y'all, but I think you guys that go looking for bears are kinda crazy... :)

-Ogre

13A
October 14, 2004, 01:07 AM
Why isn't this hate speech?

We all know why.

Hate speech is a one way street.

:mad:

jefnvk
October 14, 2004, 01:43 AM
This kind of reminds me of the argument on a Jeep board about whether hunting was a sport or not. The true "outdoorsmen" (mountain bikers and rock climbers) claimed hunting was not a real sport because it was so easy.

Man, climbing up those rocks can't be too hard. After all, I can climb to the top of the rock wall in the gym. And mountain biking, I can still ride a bike after over a year of not riding.

(Just kidding)

Same thing goes for professional sports. Hockey isn't a sport, its just fighting. Fighting isn't a sport, its just entertainment. Racing isn't a sport, its just guys driving around in circles. I don;t care what your opinion is, just don't force it upon anyone else. This guy has a right to allow or not allow anyone else on his property, but he can;t be making up facts to mislead people.

I mean, after all, I view vegetarians (the kind who oppose eating anything with a face, not the dieters) as a psychological illness. BUT, I don;t care if you're a vegetarian. I'm not gonna force you to eat meat, or make others put pressure on you.

OTOH, I do want the cafeteria to stop serving vegetarian chili. Chili w/o beans and meat IS NOT chili.

Silent-Snail
October 14, 2004, 02:28 AM
89% of people who are publicly against firearms secretly think that the stork brings babies. And we all know:rolleyes: thats true. OTOH 99% of those surveyed know for a fact that all gunlovers are Satan worshiping Jew bashing sociopaths just waiting to stirfry a kitten.:banghead: :cuss:

cslinger
October 14, 2004, 10:53 AM
Mmmmmmm stir fried kitten. The other other white meat. :D

Skunkabilly
October 14, 2004, 10:57 AM
Do the bears have blue helmets and are they manning black helos? :scrutiny:

BeLikeTrey
October 14, 2004, 11:01 AM
It's here! Next week I have a date with a Blackie. We will be hunting for 4-6 days in Jocassee gorge here in SC. To all my fellow psychos, happy hunting to you as well.

rock jock
October 14, 2004, 11:09 AM
By difinition, 98% of all Kerry supporters are criminally insane and therefore should be prohibited from voting.

2nd Amendment
October 14, 2004, 12:03 PM
...and the other 2% are comatose.

Daniel T
October 14, 2004, 01:58 PM
No, no. The other 2% are actually dead. Of course, they vote 40 times a piece, but still...

jnojr
October 14, 2004, 02:06 PM
82% of wild-eyed, hunting-hating liberals suffer from congenital brain defects that make rational thought impossible and that bring on episodes of schizophrenia and hallucinations.

Hey, look! I can spout statistics and wild theories, too!

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