Helped a couple of anti's last night (Oh the Irony!)


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Chupacabra
October 16, 2004, 05:47 PM
So there I was at work, attending the information desk at the Library, getting ready to close the building, when a well dressed couple walked in approached me . They told me that they were trying to find an auction being held on campus and that they were a little lost. I scratched my head and asked for more information because I was not aware of any auctions going on that night. The guy went on to say that it was supposed to be at some museum near campus and that he could find the specifics if only he could access his e-mail (our computers are for students only). So I let him use my terminal to check his e-mail. Upon finding the e-mail, I saw the unthinkabe. This auction was being held by www.washingtonceasefire.org (!!!) at the Museum of History and Industry.

:banghead:

In my head I was :uhoh: and :barf: but I remained professional and even offered to print them out some Mapquest directions to the museum.

Later that night after I had gone home, the irony of the whole situation became clear. A young man who usually goes about his daily routine with a H&KUSP, spare magazine, folding knife and OC attached to his belt, helps a couple of anti-gun folks find an anti-gun event. I just had to laugh.

However, there was a voice in my head whispering "give them directions to Wade's Gun Shop! You know you want to!" Oh well, maybe next time.

:evil:

:neener:

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Telwan
October 16, 2004, 06:28 PM
Dude, that would be really mean. Wade's? I wouldn't even recommend them to people I like. :D

Sylvilagus Aquaticus
October 16, 2004, 07:01 PM
Huh. I checked the list of items they auctioned...included among them was a snowboard. How many people are injured in snowboarding accidents a year and how many are injured in accidental discharges?

I thought so.

BTW, thanks for being civil even after you found out where they were going and why. It makes us different from them. I doubt the courtesy would have been reciprocated if it were you and you were going to a firearms auction or a gun show.

Regards,
Rabbit.

Mad Man
October 16, 2004, 07:30 PM
How many people are injured in snowboarding accidents a year and how many are injured in accidental discharges?

I thought so.


I missed the answer to your question.

priv8ter
October 16, 2004, 07:42 PM
I'm not sure there was an answer.

But, I'm sure you could do some research on the internet. From working with folks who shoot, and those who ski and snowboard, I would wager a paycheck that more people are injusred in snow sports than shooting sports.

greg

Standing Wolf
October 16, 2004, 08:20 PM
A young man who usually goes about his daily routine with a H&KUSP, spare magazine, folding knife and OC attached to his belt, helps a couple of anti-gun folks find an anti-gun event.

Do you suppose they'd have helped you find a Second Amendment event?

It's been my experience shooters are more civil than most folks, and considerably more so than anti-Second Amendment bigots.

4v50 Gary
October 16, 2004, 10:14 PM
No evil guns being auctioned off by those useless anti-gunners. Why, I wouldn't be redfaced to be the only person to bid on one of those evil guns. By placing it in my safe, I know it'll be out of the hands of criminals. That's my method of preventing misuse of firearms and I'm waiting for President Bush to personally call me to tell me that he's giving me the Medal of Freedom for my civic work.:p

Jim March
October 16, 2004, 11:35 PM
Heh.

That ain't squat.

In my role as "Member, Board of Directors, Blackboxvoting.org" (electronic voting reform group) I supported two California voting reform bills...authored by California state senator Don Perata, one of the biggest gun-grabbers in Sacramento.

:p

You should have seen him, sitting as head of the Senate Elections Committee and watching me testify. He knew what else I did and was as amused by the irony as I was.

JoshM14
October 17, 2004, 12:20 AM
I missed the answer to your question.

Well let's look at faling, I think snow boarding deaths fall in that eh?


"Each year, over 30,000 people are killed by guns in the United States"

This is by no means an exhaustive study. Actually I'm kind of bored at work (again) so I thought I'd take a look at the CDC numbers a little closer. Here they are with my comments below:

Number of deaths: 2,416,425
Death rate: 854.5 deaths per 100,000 population
Life expectancy: 77.2 years

Number of deaths for leading causes of death:

Heart disease: 700,142 (28.97% of total deaths)
Cancer: 553,768 (22.92% of total deaths)
Stroke: 163,538 (6.77% of total deaths)
Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 123,013 (5.09% of total deaths)
Accidents (unintentional injuries): 101,537
Diabetes: 71,372
Influenza/Pneumonia: 62,034
Alzheimer's disease: 53,852
Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 39,480
Septicemia: 32,238

More numbers for comparison:

Injury Related Deaths: 157,078

Of these 70% were from the following:

Motor Vehicle traffic: 42,443 (1.76% of total deaths)
Firearm: 29,573 (1.22% of total deaths)
----(Unintentional: 802)
----(Suicide: 16,869)
----(Homicide: 11,348)
----(Undetermined: 231)
----(Legal intervention/war: 323)
Poisoning: 22,242 (0.92% of total deaths)
Falls: 15,764 (0.65% of total deaths)

Now lets put the whole Anti-Bill of rights, anti Gun thing into REAL perspective. True Murder, the thing we're all afrade of:

Homicide: 11,348

Now clearly a death is tragic, but lets look at this:

Falls: 15,764

Now CLEARLY we have a problem, falls must be
BANNED!!!!!!!

I am anti-snow boarding as of now!
:cuss:

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

fistful
October 17, 2004, 12:51 AM
Good move, Chupacabra. I don't have to tell you, you did the right thing. Good job.

Let me, however, offer an alternate view. I know you didn't know they were anti's until it was too late. But had these people told me ahead of time they were looking for a Cease Fire event, I think I might have said, "I'm sorry, the computers are for students only." Keep in mind that they didn't know that the guy they're talking to is one of us evil gunists. The next permutation (here's where you'd be stepping out on a limb and possibly risking your job) is to calmly explain to them that you WOULD let them use your account, but you greatly resent the efforts of Cease Fire to endanger the safety of yourself and others by denying the human right to self-defense, and that you don't want to assist anyone in that effort. This lets them see your point of view and the effects of their anti-gun activities, may plant a seed of doubt in their own beliefs, and can help our cause if you present yourself well and show them your serious commitment to the cause. Or maybe I'm just a Pollyana.

I'm not saying you betrayed the cause. I think you did the right thing, and you're a real mensch.

Tharg
October 17, 2004, 01:05 AM
Doubt it - I've known people to be pretty anal - and the next call (or the next day) would be a call to the supervisor to tell them that thier employee was very rude and unhelpful. Why such a simple request as help for directions was REFUSED in a LIBRARY....

Be suprised how normal sounding they can be. If his supervisor is not an anti- then upon further explanation from the employee he would prolly blow it off - but if it was an anti - or even one of those you don't need X people, it could get hairy trying to explain why you turned these people away who were a pain in his behind....

heh

Gotta love people... i guess thats why i try to stay away from them...

heh

J/Tharg!

Phil in Seattle
October 17, 2004, 05:25 PM
"Each year, over 30,000 people are killed by guns in the United States"

WISQARS gives us a total of 28,663 firearm deaths for the year 2000 (the last year currently available), however 16,586 of those are suicides. I always break the suicides out.




And you should have sent them to Butches on Aurora, it's much closer than Wades and it might have made them think having a gun right then would be a good idea. :what:

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