.22 options
kennygarza
October 19, 2004, 05:59 PM
I'm looking to buy a new .22 rifle. Ruger 10/22 is $160, Marlin 60 is $100, and Remington 597 is $100. Which one would you suggest?
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WhiteKnight
October 19, 2004, 06:05 PM
You're asking a question with an easy answer.
kennygarza
October 19, 2004, 07:12 PM
???
kennygarza
October 19, 2004, 07:14 PM
SO, are you saying go for the Ruger quality and easy parts availability, or go for one of the other ones because of the drastic price difference? Any info is greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
KG
tc300mag1
October 19, 2004, 07:15 PM
Go with the ruger Customize if need be be happy
Third_Rail
October 19, 2004, 07:15 PM
I'd go with the Marlin, simply because I don't like the Ruger.
Other than that, all I can say is all three seem reliable from what I've experienced, as long as you clean them regularly (same as any firearm, reallly).
sm
October 19, 2004, 07:21 PM
Marlin 60 DL
rbernie
October 19, 2004, 08:16 PM
The simple answer is that you can do just about ANYTHING to the 10/22 to make it damn near any form of rifle you'd like - moreso than virtually any other firearm in production. It's also quite reliable, ammo-insensitive, and a hoot to shoot.
Choosing the 10/22 is a no-brainer, unless funding is so tight that you just can't swing the extra $60.
Citadel99
October 19, 2004, 08:19 PM
Look around and you'll find a good condition used 10-22 for the price of the others!
Mark
KaceCoyote
October 19, 2004, 08:24 PM
My used beat to crap .22 Marlin model 60 copy is pre serial numbers and still regularly outshoots my friend's Ruger. Oh the wonders of the microgroove barrel. Its simple, accurate, cheap, reliable and most importantly its cool. :)
The Model 60 is the best selling .22LR in America for a reason.
4v50 Gary
October 19, 2004, 09:19 PM
Ruger. Entire cottage industry supporting it. Tough & reliable. What's there not to like?
KaceCoyote
October 19, 2004, 10:28 PM
The Model 60 has been around since 1960(big surprise) and has been a best seller since then for a very good reason. I'd be willing to pit my beat to hell Marlin against any stock 10/22 in the St.Louis Area. Any takers?
Jrob24
October 19, 2004, 10:28 PM
I should've done more research before buying a 597HB, accuracy is good but the magazines SUCK. They get dirty and cause FTF's.
pbhome71
October 19, 2004, 10:50 PM
For this list, Ruger 10/22. But if you are looking for a bolt gun, nothing beats CZ 452.
I have both, and I like them both.
WhoKnowsWho
October 20, 2004, 01:17 AM
I have a Marlin 60 due to the simple fact that all the add ons and doodads for the Ruger are nice, but I would never bother to buy any of them because I bought a .22 rifle to do cheap plinking with. I bought the Marlin and a Spee-D-Loader to quickly load the tube and I am set.
KaceCoyote
October 20, 2004, 01:41 AM
Marlin is about a hundred bucks if you shop around, the Rugers go for about a hundred sixty around here. so lets summerize...
100 dollar rifle that shoots very accurately with no mods.
vs
160 dollar rifle+120 bucks worth've misc parts to accurize it.
100 dollar rifle, that shoots as well as a 280 dollar rifle. Hrrrrm.....
Rupestris
October 20, 2004, 08:11 AM
It came down to fit for me. The Marlin Model 60's thinner receiver and lighter feel made it more comfortable as a plinker.
IMO, Ruger 10/22's just seem a bit bulky for a .22.
Try all of 'em. go with the one that fits you best and suits your needs.
I think what sm meant to recommend was the Model 60 FS :D :p :D
jrpeterman
October 20, 2004, 09:10 AM
I owned a Model 60, one brother has a 10/22, and another brother owns the Rem. 597. It depends what you want the gun for. If it's just a plinker or small game hunter that you don't want to sink a lot of money into go with the Model 60. There is no need to purchase additional magazines and out of the box accuracy is generally better than the Ruger. My Marlin would group slightly better than my brother's Ruger, but not enough to make a huge difference. The Model 60 is the lowest cost of the bunch. A true Spartan .22 rifle. I replaced mine with a Marlin 795.
If looking for accuracy on the budget, go with the Rem. 597. The sights are the most like a "true rifle." There are issues with the magazines from time to time, but they can be remedied. For me, the Rem. 597 has the best fit and feel of the 3. It would costs many more $$ to get the 10/22 to shoot as accurately as the Rem. 597.
If you want a rifle that you can add accessories and customize to your personal tastes, get a 10/22. The sky is the limit for all the various features for the Ruger. IMHO, all of the 3 are great guns. I wouldn't be disappointed with any of them.
halvey
October 20, 2004, 09:12 AM
Wow. Someone is actually making a choice between 3 AMERICAN guns!
**down off my soapbox now...***
PaladinX13
October 20, 2004, 11:32 AM
I agree 100% with jrpeterman.
Rem 597 for accuracy but a slightly fussy gun.
Marlin 60 for good out of box accuracy and great durability.
Ruger 10/22 for fun filled accessory market.
Dave R
October 20, 2004, 12:40 PM
I voted Model 60 because my older Model 60 out-shoots my newer 10/22.
If you expect to customize, you have to go with 10/22.
If you don't, I like the Model 60 better. I like the longer barrel, better accuracy.
kennygarza
October 20, 2004, 07:03 PM
Marlin Model 60. Simply because of the fact that I bought a Ruger in the past with the hopes of customizing it, and never did. I sold the 10/22 to a friend of mine for $100 a few months ago.
So I'm at Academy today buying the Model 60, and they have this promotional giveawaygoing on. Buy any rifle or shotgun and receive an aluminum airline approved 2-gun case and a leather padded sling free.
I got the new .22, case and sling all for the grand sum of $108 out the door. It's been a good day.
Thanks to all for the input.
KG
WhiteKnight
October 20, 2004, 08:18 PM
The Ruger 10/22, out of the box, is IMHO pretty much garbage. Add a $30 VQ hammer and $10 Clark Tuned extractor, remove the barrel band and free float the barrel, and you've got one heckuva gun for under $200.
And then the real fun starts...:D
Mannlicher
October 20, 2004, 08:24 PM
I have several Ruger 10'22, and a great old Marlin Mod. 60. The marlin is much more accurate. and is my favorite .22 semi auto. Bought it for $5 at a garage sale in about 1980
sm
October 20, 2004, 11:57 PM
Okay, granted I'm in abit of "brain fade" at the moment...what is the FS ? :D
No - I was, am , was " are" .....whatever...( brain dead from exams and practicals) Serious.
I have the Marlin 60 DL
http://www.marlinfirearms.com/firearms/selfLoading22wTubularMag/60DL.htm
All-
Ain't it handsome ??:D Why Thank you - yes I like it , it is very accurate, really likes the Win x22lr, and the PowerPoints. It likes the Fed Bulk pack as well.
The Ruger 10/22 I have had were all the Deluxe Models. I prefer the Good Looks of Blue and Wood. The Gun fit was "okay" . I had no problems with mine ( except it does suck to forget mags and not be able to shoot it).
Folks went "nuts" over my 10/22 because mine looked great, " appeared stock" , the tweaking mine had done were minimal, and not visible externally. Folks that " had to have mine" - honest - tired of paying and playing the add on doodad game. They wanted a classic look that shot well. They could hunt with it.
I like the Classic Blue&Wood , I like the Browning Automaics, the 9422, the Browning Levers, model 52's.... Warning - you shoot one of these - you will have to have one. That is a promise , especially the model 52 and the Browning Automatic.
Only "Plastic" gun I ever cared for , the Nylon 66, the butt fed one - no mags to mess with.
Now some folks around the country I visit with, figure I'm nuts....some are re- thinking some of my hair brain thoughts. Especially in areas of the country where Gun legislation is such. Lever Actions, Pump guns are not "detachable mags , nor is the Marlin 60. *wink* Just stuff they deer, duck, squirrel hunt with - in NJ,IL ...
The Marlin 60 fits me and has proven to be accurate. I have folks that use these with a few "tweaks", for instance Mine has the heavy reciever, so they pin the some of the older ones( 60's) to help with harmonics. Adjust triggers a bit and such.
Another trick is to make a bbl bd that fits the ammo tube and bbl akin to the swivel mount for a lever action. Two halves if you will with allen screw to hold the two halves together. Looks a lot nicer than what the anal boys do to stabalize the harmonics on 10 /22's and such. *snicker*
Me - I never cared for all that anal stuff. I was not taught to do that. Gun fit to shooter, and learn to shoot. Read the wind, find good ammo for that gun. Plus it is too fun to outshoot someone with a stock gun , over their high dollar toys and no skills. Marlin 60 DL, 870 pump,, Model 12, Ithaca 37's Model 94 in 30-30, Gov't Model 1911 in .45 ACP , Model 10....etc.
I like being a tacky bastard at times. Now where is that membership form to become a Reprobate? Old Fuff ,might have to send me another one :D
Its is all good. Get what you like, that fits you , with good ammo and spend the time to learn the basics and fundamentals .
Hey - I have never forgotten "mags" for any Marlin 60 past or present ---when you get older you might appreciate this tidbit .
:D :p :D
OH - I do have plans to " personalize " my Marlin 60 DL . I really like and have had GREAT Sucess with the Flush Mount Swivels From Pachmayer - http://www.lymanproducts.com/pachmayr/index.htm. Yeah....it'll have a leather sling too...
Blue & Wood & Leather...you folks knew that already - huh? :cool:
So like when are we gonna have a .22 versus .17 Mach II thread? I mean c'mon folks...them mutant zombies are a comin' any day now....running point for < enter Chicago Accent here> " Da Bears". :neener:
Rupestris
October 21, 2004, 09:46 AM
sm,
The FS model is a somewhat rare model that was cobbled together by Marlin for some of the bigger chain sporting goods stores like Dunhams, Gander Mountain and the like. It s a blued,synthetic stock with Williams FireSights (fiber optic front and rear. Hence the FS) It was never listed as part of Marlins everyday offerings. I picked mine up on sale for $129.
Mine happens to love the CCI mini-mags and the Federal 810’s.
The DL is definitely a right purdy .22. I haven’t had a chance to handle one yet.
Only "Plastic" gun I ever cared for , the Nylon 66, the butt fed one - no mags to mess with.
Yep, got one of those too.;)
The Marlin 60 fits me and has proven to be accurate. I have folks that use these with a few "tweaks", for instance Mine has the heavy reciever, so they pin the some of the older ones( 60's) to help with harmonics. Adjust triggers a bit and such.
I have cleaned up the trigger on my 60 but have not reduced the pull as of yet. For me clean is good. I haven’t had enough experience with super light triggers to realize I need one.
- I never cared for all that anal stuff. I was not taught to do that. Gun fit to shooter, and learn to shoot. Read the wind, find good ammo for that gun. Plus it is too fun to outshoot someone with a stock gun , over their high dollar toys and no skills. Marlin 60 DL, 870 pump,, Model 12, Ithaca 37's Model 94 in 30-30, Gov't Model 1911 in .45 ACP , Model 10....etc.
Apparently we have similar collections. Winchester 94 in 30-30, two 870’s (12 &20) Marlin 60, Nylon 66, 1911… I’m willing to bet there’s a Ruger Mark II somewhere in your safe… all are pretty much bone stock. Only additions are a scope on the .22's (no more than 4X) and some FO sights on the 870's.
No carbon fiber barrels, thumbhole stocks, high dollar internals, 9-300 X 55 telescopes, bipods, ...
cs
LynnMassGuy
October 21, 2004, 10:13 AM
The 597 is a good rifle as long as you don't care that you will never be able to cycle more than 7 rounds in a row through it. The magazines are JUNK. New mags, old mags...they are all junk. If you only load 7 rounds into the mag you will have a fine rifle. If you load 10 you will tear your hair out. Oh yeah, it's very accurate when it fires. Not many accessories for it. Believe me now or believe me later.
John
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