[2dogs]

PETA was part of a coalition that succeeded in getting constitutional protection for pigs in Florida

That's a joke right?

Is the USA turning into a giant mental institution?





http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=31211

PETA likens chickens
to Holocaust victims
Animal-rights activists launch campaign against meat eaters

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Posted: February 25, 2003
1:00 a.m. Eastern


By Diana Lynne
© 2003 WorldNetDaily.com

Comparing chickens slaughtered at factory farms to the Jews annihilated in Nazi death camps, an animal-rights group has launched a campaign called "Holocaust on Your Plate" to promote the vegetarian diet.

As IsraelNationalNews.com first reported, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, or PETA, draws the comparison using explicit and graphic images of fluffy white chickens crowded into barnyard cages and emaciated adults and children peering out from behind barbed wire at the death camps.

PETA actually promoted the same comparison at the beginning of the Palestinian intifada in Israel in 2000.

In a press release, PETA said it launched the project on the campus of the University of California-Berkeley over the weekend to "stimulate people to contemplate how the victimization of Jews, Gypsies, homosexuals and others characterized as 'life unworthy of life' during the Holocaust parallels the way that modern society abuses and justifies the slaughter of animals."

"Just as the Nazis tried to 'dehumanize' Jews by forcing them to live in filthy, crowded conditions," continues the release, "animals on today's factory farms are stripped of all that is enjoyable and natural to them and treated as nothing more than meat-, egg-, and milk-making 'machines.'"

The statement cites examples of the alleged mistreatment of animals:


"Laying hens are crammed on top of each other in small wire cages that do not afford them even enough room to lie down. [Their] beaks are burned off with a hot blade to keep them from pecking each other for space."

"Pigs are kept on barren, sore-inducing concrete-floored stalls and are castrated and have their tails cut off without painkillers."

"Calves raised for veal are torn from their mothers within hours of birth and chained in tiny, dark stalls where their joints swell from trying to balance on slippery, waste-covered slats."
"The very same mindset that made the Holocaust possible – that we can do anything we want to those we decide are 'different' or 'inferior' – is what allows us to commit atrocities against animals every single day," said PETA youth outreach coordinator Matt Prescott.

Prescott has relatives who were murdered by the Nazis, according to the press release.

"We are asking people to bring understanding into their hearts and onto their tables by embracing a nonviolent, vegan diet that respects other forms of life," he said.

As part of the campaign, PETA is touring a giant graphic display that consists of eight 60-square-foot panels on which pictures of the chickens, emaciated calves and a pile of dead pig carcasses are juxtaposed with shocking photographs of Holocaust victims on the brink of death and a mound of human corpses.

PETA's homepage links to a website called masskilling.com which offers a slideshow containing images from the display.

It opens with the statement:


"During the seven years between 1938 and 1945, 12 million people perished in the Holocaust. That same number of animals is killed every four hours for food in the U.S. alone."
It concludes with a quote from author-philosopher Dr. Helmut Kaplan:


"Our grandchildren will ask us one day: Where were you during the holocaust of the animals? What did you do against these horrifying crimes? We won't be able to offer the same excuse the second time, that we didn't know."
Prescott explains the purpose of the exhibit, which it has made available to college campuses and towns, is to "graphically depict the point made by Yiddish writer and Nobel laureate Isaac Bashevis Singer, who wrote, 'In relation to [animals], all people are Nazis.' It stresses the "common roots of victimization and violence" and how people can help fight them through the decisions they make when they eat.

Los Angeles resident Roz Rothstein was born and grew up without relatives because of the Holocaust.

"Everybody in my family was affected," she told WorldNetDaily. "This kind of exaggeration is an insult to the people who were mass murdered. It's absurd. To make a moral equation between chickens and humans belittles the people who died through the various methods of murder at the hands of the Nazis."

PETA is known for its zealous advocacy of animals' rights – often above human rights.

Earlier this month, PETA spoke out against Middle East terrorism instigated by Palestinian Authority leader Yasser Arafat after an explosives-laden donkey was used in a bomb attack in the West Bank.

No humans were killed in the incident, but the explosion narrowly missed an Israeli bus carrying soldiers.

PETA President Ingrid Newkirk sent a letter to Arafat, pleading with him to "appeal to all those who listen to you to leave the animals out of this conflict."

"We have received many calls and letters from people shocked at the bombing," she wrote.

Newkirk has not raised any objection over suicide bombings that kill people.

"It's not my business to inject myself into human wars," she told the Washington Post.

As WorldNetDaily reported, PETA was part of a coalition that succeeded in getting constitutional protection for pigs in Florida last November. The $1.4 million ballot initiative amended the state constitution to limit the "cruel and inhumane confinement of pigs during pregnancy." The referendum specifically outlaws caging pigs in gestation stalls, which are metal enclosures that measure two feet across and prevent sows from turning around freely.

Advocates readily admitted there wasn't a problem in Florida with gestation stalls, but used the campaign to set a precedent for activists across the country.

"It's ironic in itself. We sometimes award our animals better protections than ourselves," Matt DuPree, executive director for the Florida Christian Coalition, told WorldNetDaily in response to the amendment.

[cuchulainn]

Cluck-cluck Macht Frei (or is that Fry? ;) )

[Boats]

Hey. it is true. I have seen the orders for the "final solution" of the "chicken question."

We need to eradicate the influence and corruption of the chicken culture once and for all to secure a greater humanity.

Gotta hand it to PETA, they make me think some strange thoughts, but not the ones they were hoping for.

[TheOtherOne]

Isn't saying something like that the equivalent of shooting yourself in the foot?

Honestly, who's going to respect a group like that?

[jmbg29]

Is the USA turning into a giant mental institution?Yes.

cuchulainn, you're killin' me! ROTFLMAO!:D Honestly, who's going to respect a group like that?Almost 50% percent of the people that live in my community. They can't help it, they are escapees from the city, Kommiefornians, or both.

Arrrg!:banghead: :cuss: :fire:

[Carlos Cabeza]

Pry this chicken leg FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS ! :D
I refuse to give up my FRIED CHICKEN !
Seriously, these people are a wacked out bunch ! Jeez ! And to think I'm labeled a nut because I value the BoR............Whatever:rolleyes:

[4v50 Gary]

Equating the killing of human beings to that of animals disgraces the memory of the human victims. :mad:

[CZ-75]

I equate PETA members to chickens.

A tiny brain and lots of clucking.

[DeltaElite]

PETA is off the deep end.

While I do believe our food animals should be treated better during their short lives.
Comparing the treatement of animals to The Holocaust is absurd.

[Mike Irwin]

This isn't anything new by them.

[voilsb]

so why don't they enforce similar laws on animals? why not place all wild carnivores in captivity, so we can ensure their prey doesn't suffer unnecessarily before they eat it, or better yet, force all animals (and people, of course) to be vegans?

since the train of thought that says animals have the same rights as humans is the one that says humans are simply another animal, no better than the others, what's to say that the lion's view of killing the weak in a herd is not the right view, over that of a humans? maybe we should all take up the lion's cause and slaughter our food mercilessly, and let it die painfully of its wounds before we eat it?

oh wait, that's because we're the only animals with the moral sense to see that it's wrong. well, maybe that same moral sense allows us to say "you've gone too far" and to continue to eat chicken. and food animals are nothing like holocaust victims because food animals are well fed, because people want fat food!

and the same moral sense to say that the problem isn't blowing up a bomb on a donkey, it's blowing up a bomb with the intent to kill which is the actual moral problem.


:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

[Ledbetter]

I agree with 4v50Gary; these people are debasing an important historical memory of human suffering and endurance in order to further their own "harebrained" ideas.

On the other hand, I can't swear they're wrong if they think chickens' lives are worth as much as their own.

[Felonious Monk]

I think the PETA people got the idea from seeing the claymation movie "Chicken Run", where the chickens were depicted as prison camp inmates.

Only they thought it was a drama, and didn't get the absurd comedy that was the whole premise of the movie.

Yep, TEOTWAWKI is near. The species IS doomed. :mad:

[Navy joe]

I don't like factory farms, but nothing will change until urban people are willing to pay more for food products from less profitable and more humane farming practices. America's urbanization and desire for the lowest price killed of all the small farmers, and now some idiot has something to whine about. On the bright side of terrorism, if something ever happens to Norfolk your silver lining will be that PETA is gone with it. Living in close proximity to those idiots makes me ill.

[WilderBill]

Man, they must be really ticked off at Col. Adolf Sanders!

Where was I during the animal holocost? KFC of course! :)

[grampster]

PETA members, when prepared properly, taste just like chicken.:rolleyes:

[Azrael256]

Mother f***er... I'm still shaking... Ok, I'm going to take this to temple Friday night. I know there are only like 6,000 Jews in Oklahoma, but I'll bet every one of them will send peta a letter over this one.

[Pilot]

These are the same people that think deer talk in the woods and have human traits and intelligence because of the movie "Bambi".

BTW. the Col. Sander = Adolf Hitler anology was hilarious!

[-B-a-M-]

How many plants had to die for those vegans salads?! Hahaha me and my friends always some how end up discussing this. I mean a carrot or tomato or any kind of vegetable is living isnt it? I mean if it can die it kinda at some point has to be living. Why arent there lawn mower bombings and murders of lawn care professionals to take out the evil machines and people before they hack down the poor defensless grass?
I was at a local fair and for some God awful reason a PETA booth was there. So me and my friends came up with a plan. We would go by and take any bumper stickers or buttons or stickers they gave us and with a permenant marker changed all the propaganda to say "PETA: People Eating Tasty Animals" (a classic). Then we would return later and one person would distract the people at the booth with questions about joining while we would mix all our items back in with the rest. HEHEHE we spent the whole week on a psychological warfare campaign against PETA.
Now this whole new thing i just read has now changed my simple fun of annoying the PETA-ites into an all out war. (non-violent obviously but more energy)

[Skunkabilly]

Then 1.3 billion Chinese people must be Adorf Hitrer... We'll eat anything....

Does PETA have a chapter in Hong Kong by the way? :D

[PATH]

Absolute disgust! What kind of people would make a comparison between chickens and the millions killed in the Holocaust. It turns my stomach. What a bunch of absolute scum! PETA has stepped way over the line of decency this time!:fire:

[gburner]

In an ironic twist, Heinrich Himmler was a chicken farmer (IIRC) prior to his joining the Nazi Party and rising to the
top of the Gestapo. Go figure!

[stevesmith7]

In a similar situation Mike Gallagher(sp) the radio talk show guy recently
interviewed a woman who headed some sort of poultry rights league who
was very upset about the Carl's Jr. ads where a bunch of men surrounded
a chicken "looking for the nuggets". He re-runs the interview as a best of
sometimes and it's really a crack up. It goes on for about 15 minutes and
he really tries to do a serious job with this woman but by the end the whole
crew just looses it completly. The woman has no clue what a complete
moron she comes off as and never seems to catch on . It's a real hoot.

Steve

[CZ-75]

Millions of animals and insects are killed each year so that the soil can be tilled and grains and vegetables planted.


STOP THE MURDER! :D



Until these folks can photosynthesize, they have their head shoved far, far into their nether regions.

[Azrael256]

Ok, I have an idea for a T-shirt. How about an arrangement of bloody meat that spells out "APEX PREDATOR." Maybe some bumper stickers, too. I did not survive saber-tooth tiger attacks and bringing down mastadons with pointy sticks to sit and listen to idiots like this.

[4570Rick]

You're right!!! Worms are people too.:D

[2dogs]

PETA explains...............................................:barf:

Contrary to your report, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals does not compare chickens slaughtered at factory farms to the Jews annihilated in Nazi death camps ("PETA likens chickens to Holocaust victims," Feb. 25). Rather, we use graphic photographs to show the similarities between the oppression and mass murder of Jews during the Holocaust and the slaughter of the animals we raise for food.

The victims are different species, but the system of confinement, abuse, prejudice and slaughter are the same. Every year in the U.S. alone, tens of billion of animals are imprisoned in concentration camps we call factory farms. Ten billion of these will be rounded up, trucked hundreds of miles, herded through the doors to the kill floor and slaughtered. All this is happening while average people go about their lives, turning a blind eye to the suffering. Comparisons to the Holocaust are inescapable, not just because we humans share with animals the capacity for suffering, but because the government-sanctioned oppression of billions of living beings is ignored by people who could act to end it.

The exhibit was funded by a Jewish philanthropist who has spent the past 25 years affiliated with one of the world's foremost Holocaust organizations, and who recognized the moral and ethical imperative of making the public aware of the parallels between the Jewish genocide of World War II and the horrific and inhumane treatment of animals raised and slaughtered for food.

I embraced the project immediately because my mother's family was Polish-Jewish, and while my grandfather immigrated to the United States before the Nazis came to power, the rest of our family were imprisoned in concentration camps. I learned early to speak out against all oppression. Tragically, those who dismiss the abuse of animals on factory farms today sound hauntingly similar to those who dismissed the suffering of Jews because they were "subhuman."

Matt Prescott
Campaign Coordinator
People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals

[cuchulainn]

Contrary to your report, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals does not compare chickens slaughtered at factory farms to the Jews annihilated in Nazi death camps ("PETA likens chickens to Holocaust victims," Feb. 25). Rather, we use graphic photographs to show the similarities between the oppression and mass murder of Jews during the Holocaust and the slaughter of the animals we raise for food.

My, my, my, that gets my vote for sophestry of the month. "Gosh, we'd never compare them, but while you're listening, here are three more paragraphs comparing them."

Keep, digging, Matt, keep digging; you just don't get it.

[4v50 Gary]

Love that equating chicken lives as equal to their own stuff Ledbetter. :D

[BenW]

I learned early to speak out against all oppression.
Then why are you attempting to oppress omnivores by dictating socially acceptable diets? Idiot.

[gburner]

I didn't have the good fortune of being born at the top of the food chain just to squander it by exclusively eating salad. Besides, shooting corn stalks isn't nearly as fun as hunting game.
These people make my head hurt.


BTW....Do they think that dolphins have ethical issues with using their skills to herd vast schools of fish only to
slaughter them in a frenzy of feeding?

Or grizzly bears culling out the strongest salmon at the falls only to almost exclusively eat their brains and roe?

Or orca that hunt the waters off of seal rookeries to feast on birthing mothers and their pups?

Do they think that for one minute that
a mako shark would hesitate to make one of them a PETA pita if they had the poor
fortune to fall overboard in the ocean?

[Tamara]

"A rat is a dog is a boy is a man..."

Notice the PETA types never run this one out to its' logical extension? An amoeba is a liver fluke is a mollusc is an anopheles mosquito is a lamprey is a sewer rat is a rabid dog is a serial killer. ;)

[Ledbetter]

say he made a mistake and then shut the hell up. Here's a clue, Matt: Chickens ARE subhuman. Your Great Grandma twisted the heads off of them so that YOU could be conceived. (Now that IS a waste of a good chicken.)

"The victims are different species, but the system of confinement, abuse, prejudice and slaughter are the same."

What a maroon. Yes, I'm prejudiced against chickens. Especially undercooked ones.

[dev_null]

Gee, maybe we could find a sharp lawyer to sue them for a zillion dollars for pain and suffering caused to holocaust survivors and descendants. :D :evil:

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[2dogs]

Group blasts PETA 'Holocaust' project
Friday, February 28, 2003 Posted: 12:51 PM EST (1751 GMT)





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(CNN) -- The Anti-Defamation League has denounced a campaign by an animal rights group that compares slaughtering animals to the murder of 6 million Jews in World War II.

The graphic campaign and exhibit "Holocaust on Your Plate," devised by the People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, juxtaposes 60-square-foot panels displaying gruesome scenes from Nazi death camps side by side with disturbing photographs from factory farms and slaughterhouses. One shows a starving man in a concentration camp next to a starving cow.

The exhibit opens Friday in San Diego, California, and went up Thursday at the University of California at Los Angeles. It also is posted on a PETA Web site, www.masskilling.com, which calls for support for the campaign from the Jewish community.

The comparisons prompted an angry statement from Abraham Foxman, Anti-Defamation League national director and a Holocaust survivor.

"The effort by PETA to compare the deliberate, systematic murder of millions of Jews to the issue of animal rights is abhorrent," the statement said. "PETA's effort to seek approval for their 'Holocaust on Your Plate' campaign is outrageous, offensive and takes chutzpah to new heights."

Lisa Lange, PETA's vice president of communications, told CNN's "American Morning With Paula Zahn" on Friday that the idea for the public relations effort came from the late Nobel Prize-winning author Isaac Bashevis Singer, who, she said, wrote: "In relation to them [animals], all people are Nazis; for them it is an eternal Treblinka."

Lange said the campaign is appropriate because "Nazi concentration camps were modeled after slaughterhouses."

The Singer quote, which the group draws upon in its literature as well, was not spoken directly by him but rather comes from his short story, "The Letter Writer," when the main character Herman Gombiner is musing on the plight of animals. Treblinka was a Nazi death camp in Poland. Singer was a vegetarian who believed strongly in animal rights.

"It's shocking, it's startling, it's very hard to look at," Lange said of the exhibit. "We're attacking the mind-set" that condones the slaughter of animals.

"The very same mind-set that made the Holocaust possible -- that we can do anything we want to those we decide are 'different or inferior' -- is what allows us to commit atrocities against animals every single day," PETA representative Mark Prescott wrote in a statement, which added that members of Prescott's family were murdered by Nazis.

The Anti-Defamation League statement, however, counters that "abusive treatment of animals should be opposed, but cannot and must not be compared to the Holocaust."




http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/Northeast/02/28/peta.holocaust/index.html

[Selfdfenz]

Aren't many of the comments this Matt person makes hate speech? Comparing people that eat meat with the most evil people of our times is polarizing and hateful. Isn't there a law againist this kind of thing. If this program contributed to the attack on a farmer someplace it seems that PETA would be partially reponsible.
Why not sue these people and put then out of business.

It worked with the KKK up to a point.

Some lawyer should be willing to take on a class action against these people. If their bank accounts dry up we can expect to see less ignorance of this type in the future.

S-

[Freedom in theSkies]

Rather, we use graphic photographs to show the similarities between the oppression and mass murder of Jews during the Holocaust and the slaughter of the animals we raise for food.
- Hey! I just found a button in my Solient Green!!!!!!!

All of this makes my glad that I am a vageterian

:neener:
I would sooner see animals be treated humanly, but there are a lot of these PETA folks who are jumping off the diving board into an empty gene pool.

[seeker_two]

That's almost as offensive as likening PETA-philes to rational, worthwhile human beings...:cuss:

[Sactown]

I hate culinary elitists. I don't give a hoot what anybody eats.

[natedog]

About time to find one of those bumper stickers that says "Save a cow: eat a vegetarian"

[CZ-75]

I don't give a hoot what anybody eats.


I do. No "long pig" for anyone, unless they're stuck in the Andes or Sierra Nevadas.

[MeekandMild]

Please. Its PETAphiles.

[Sactown]

I don't give a hoot what anybody eats.

Ok, let me clarify. I wouldn't want people eating people...that night of the living dead stuff ain't kosher. Being Chinese, I'd give almost any living thing a try...battering and deep frying seems to make everyting taste the same.

[ahadams]

my favorite response is still the bumper sticker:

PETA = People Eating Tasty Animals

as my brother the marine points out, it's the 'tasty' that does it there, no? :D

[Sergeant Bob]

If God didn't want us to eat chickens, he wouldn't have made them out of meat!

[Bainx]

...and, Bainx likens PETA to The Marx Bros. ;)

[bad_dad_brad]

Comparing chickens to human beings is reprehensible. Despicable. An abomination.

A recent book I am reading entitled "Masters of Death" by Richard Rhodes should be required reading for every PETA hypocrite. This book describes in painfully emotional detail the beginning of the slaughter inflicted on the people of Eastern Europe by the SS killing squads which followed the advancing German Army.

A chicken, a pig, a bug, is not self-aware. They cannot anticipate their death. They know not the terror, then horrible resignation, that the victims of this early part of the holocaust felt as they waited to be shot. The Nazi's killed 1.5 million in this manner before there were large scale killings in concentration camps via nerve gas.

It is just obscene to make such a comparison. Makes me sick. Angry.

[Russ]

Can't we find an island somewhere in the North Atlantic to ship all the PETA members to? We could stock it with vegetables and roots and they could finally be happy, at least until Winter.