Allergy to GUn Oil!


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gunslinger308
October 21, 2004, 01:13 AM
I bought my daughter a Henry mini-bolt for her 5th b-day. I tear down all my firearms before I shoot them to inspect/lube/learn about each different one. This gun has an oil that I am allergic to! I wear extra thick latex gloves when I clean my guns because it speeds clean-up and I absentmindedly rubbed my face and then a sneezing fit hit me with itchy eyes and everything. Does any one know what kind of oil they use? I have not ever reacted like that with any oil or cleaning product at all( and I work with chemicals in a bodyshop everyday)

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QuarterBoreGunner
October 21, 2004, 01:17 AM
I hear ya brother. I have rotten allergies myself ( I blame my parents...) and Hoppe's #9, which I love as a general solvent/lubricant/cologne gives me hives and the sneezes something terrible.

Edmond
October 21, 2004, 01:56 AM
I've heard of some people using synthetic motor oil to lube their guns. Anyone here ever try that?

sm
October 21, 2004, 01:59 AM
Double check the latex glove itself.

Some folks develop a latex allergy. When I worked in the Main OR , and took some medical classes some folks, including surgeons, doctors and nurses , developed over time a reaction. Sometimes it was not the latex - but the powder in the gloves itself.

We had patients that in fact were allegic to latex. 24 hours ahead of time we removed ALL latex supplies stored the OR OP Rm , and all supplies used on the PT in surgery HAD to be NON- latex. The OR has a special Heating , Air and Vent system(s). That room was even moreso "specially " vented" to get rid of any and all latex in the air ( airborne).

Non Latex and Powderless Gloves were used by Surgeons , STs and Ns - both on the latex allegic patients, AND the Surgeons STs and Ns. Many ORs have gone to Powderless gloves only. When I left we had gone powderless, word was next up wasgoing latex free...something else was beng tested.

One ST ( scrub tech) developed a problem after being a ST for 14 yrs. Happened all of a sudden. She broke out in whelps around waist ( from panties) and, shoulders, bust ( bras) and ankles ( socks) . Once recovered, and problem Dx and all....she still is a RN, Charge Nurse and Scrub Tech, she has her own boxes of gloves, and found alternate clothing needs for everday wear. Scrubs have ties...it was the personal clothing. Try to find a bra with NO latex...she said that was the hardest thing to overcome .

Also - have you started a new medication, changed a medication, or stopped taking a med?

Where I am going ...the reason I suggest is the same for " I am allergic to Gold Jewelry" - White Gold , especially was the most often upset about.

Here is the Truth . For YEARS Folks have pleaded with the Cosmetic Industries to make known what is in the products. What happens is Lady is getting ready, applying make - up. A Particuar make-up gets left on the ring, ear ring...etc., couple with medications, and individual bddy chemistry - they break out. Most Often it is the nickel used as a alloy ...nickel is use in White Gold.

When a lady would throughly wash hands after applying make-up, and the Jlry was clean when put on - NO reactions.

Take a clean cloth , try various make - up products, base, Rouge, eye liner....and one can see the stuff react with the pc of jlry and the particualr make- up. Folks change as they age , take meds...and Cosmetics change formulas....folks change brands. Even perfumes have an effect.

So it was NOT the Jlry...it WAS the chemical reacting with the Alloy ( nickel copper, zinc...) and that person.

Some stuff used in the OR would react with the various Surgical Gloves used. IIRC BioGels did funny stuff with some Anesthesia ( forget which one) so the CRNA went to using A new Glove , latex free, with no powder.


I hope it does not worsen, and you find the real cause of reaction(s)

HTH

mete
October 21, 2004, 03:39 AM
There are many different types of gun oil with many components. If the problem is with the oil[rather than latex] remove it thoroughly and replace with something you know you can tolerate. I use a turbine oil which is a highly refined petroleum oil with antoxident additives and viscocity improvers which is what a straight gun oil has though gun oils usually have solvents also. Even a 10 w motor oil will do the job.

Darkside
October 21, 2004, 09:40 AM
I had a friend attend Remingtons armor school. He was talking to the Instructor about what they used as a lube. The instructor said they were using Mobil 1 5W30.

I have several friends that cannot ware Latex. One friend swells up like the Stay Puffed Marshmello Man.:D

Darkside

gunslinger308
October 21, 2004, 09:36 PM
I don't think it is the latex gloves. I use them daily at work to avoid to much laquer thinner exposure. May be the Henry oil and the latex or just the oil. I am not for sure, but the Henry mini-bolt may have been the cause of me to start using gloves when I clean guns, too.

I have used a number of gun chemicals with no ill effects to my allergies.
BreakFree CLP
RemOil spray
Rusty duck bore scrubber
Hoppes no9
sweet shooter(don't waste your time...I ruined the feel of a cz52)
birchwood casey's
GM Lubriplate
and most recently EDs RED home mixed bore cleaner

Ed's Red
As a general bore cleaner, plastic wad remover, and carbon solvent the following formula, a creation of C.E Harris, and dubbed "Ed's Red" works quite well. In fact many folks claim it is better than anything they've tried. The formula is:

1 part Dexron II, IIe or III Automatic Transmission Fluid - GM Spec D20265 or later
1 part K1 Kerosene
1 part Aliphatic Mineral Spirits federal spec TT-T-2981F (CAS# 64741-49-9) or Stodard Solvent/Varsol
(CAS#8052-41-1)
1 part Acetone (CAS#67-64-1)

My daughter has had the rifle for two years and I have gotten almost all the original oil off the gun, but I bet the syn stock still has some in it's pores. I am sstill careful when I claen that gun.

Coltdriver
October 21, 2004, 10:20 PM
I went to CLP, Teflon grease and 5W mobil one synthetic a few years ago.

For all of the stuff we are exposed to already I don't need to add to the poisons list!

Unfortunately Hoppes and a few others have some very nasty stuff in them that absolutely soaks into you.

I have my mobil one in a syringe.

The other thing that is important is how frequently you use the guns. All of mine get a maintenence lube every six months or so. I am always surprised when the clp has dried up and evaporated off.

Jim K
October 22, 2004, 03:02 PM
I use G96 Gun Treatment for general cleaning and Hoppes oil for lubing. I have had no problems.

But that does not mean someone else may not be allergic to those or other cleaners/lubricants. If I had problems with the factory oil on any gun, I would remove the oil completely with a degreaser/cleaner and re-lube with something that does not cause problems.

Jim

Cosmoline
October 22, 2004, 03:10 PM
I've got very sensitive skin. I can't even wear rings or watches. I've found the least offensive product is basic CLP and windex & water cleaners. Household oil does cause me to break out but I sometimes use it anyway. For treatment I usually use extensive amounts of gunstock wax, which is very inoffensive but works wonderfully at keeping water off the metal. The spray-on anti-rust chemicals have not only made me break out, they've left me with a lung full of extremely nasty stuff.

pauli
October 22, 2004, 08:10 PM
hard to go wrong with mobil 1, but it DOES like to run everywhere. pesky water weight oil! ;)

sm
October 22, 2004, 08:35 PM
I touched base with a fellow that went through some allergic reactions.

FOR HIM and his system - The latex interacted with the oil / solvents he was using.

He tried Nitrile gloves , and went to Ox- Yoke's " Dam Good Gun Oil"

With the Nitrile , he is fine now. Harbor Freight sells these for $6 a box. I also turned him onto G96 . With the Nitrile ...his grandaughter still prefers the "Dam Good Gun Oil" and " Dam Good Gun Solvent" on her guns.

Read : the 7 y/o has taken a shine to Grandpa's model 10 and others....oh she can get by using a "curse word".

:p

Sleeping Dog
October 24, 2004, 11:00 AM
So, with all those chemicals, I should probably stop using Hoppes #9 in place of cologne or aftershave?

It smells good, though.

Regards.
:)

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