Silencers Aiding in Criminal homocide??


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BigJake_old
February 25, 2003, 02:16 PM
I guess this guy is saying that the class 3(??) dealer that sells a silencer is as bad as the person that buys it to murder somebody with... looks like the DEA aint on our side either.

http://www.msnbc.com/news/876686.asp?cp1=1

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techmike
February 25, 2003, 02:46 PM
Does anyone know of a case on the books where someone was murdered using a legally possessed "silencer"? Where in the story are guns even mentioned? Sorry I can't see a good parallel between Drug paraphernalia and class three weapons. Could you explain??:what:

AZTOY
February 25, 2003, 03:03 PM
:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

cpileri
February 25, 2003, 03:30 PM
is the DEA agent who shoots an innocent kid in the head just as guilty if he followed "proper procedure"?

is the LEO who runs over an innocent sunbather just as guilty as if he had been paying attention to where his vehicle was going?

sorry, I'm just pissed today.

El Tejon
February 25, 2003, 03:33 PM
Good to see we're making federal cases of "roach clips." Go, zero tolerance, go. Daddy needs a new pair of shoes!:D

Justin
February 25, 2003, 03:34 PM
That has got to be the most idiotic piece of drivel to come out of the Justice Dept. in the last two weeks. So what, now they're going to surround your house and burn it to the ground because you own a bong?
I used to know a guy who did not use any drugs or even smoke tobacco. Yet he had the biggest hookah I've ever seen in my life. I swear, the sucker was at least a foot and a half tall. It was a souvenir he bought when he was in India, or some other country where using hookahs are all the rage.
Sometimes I wonder if Ashcroft could be any more of a simpering, jack-booted retard.

(I just woke up from a nap, I'm cranky, and that's the first thing I read.):mad:

David Park
February 25, 2003, 03:39 PM
The "obvious" link between drug paraphernalia and firearm parts should give the conservative Drug Warriors something to think about. The logic that allows arresting people for selling tiny spoons on the Internet also would allow banning the "how to build a silencer" books or even email encryption software, since they might be used by those with evil intent to break the law.

It also demonstrates the sorry state of our justice system. They are basically admitting that they can do nothing to reduce violent crime or stop the illegal drug trade, but they have to "do something" so they target the low-hanging fruit. Honestly, does "conspiring to sell" miniature spoons and scales online deserve three years in prison and a $250,000 fine?

:fire:

Carlos Cabeza
February 25, 2003, 05:53 PM
Pure POOP ! David Park says it all !

NewShooter78
February 25, 2003, 06:07 PM
Just another excuse to step up worthless spending of tax dollars on the WoD.

Triad
February 25, 2003, 06:20 PM
Reloaders use scales...

Autolite
February 25, 2003, 06:37 PM
I was thinking of selling hash pipes disguised as silencers ... :(

blades67
February 25, 2003, 06:39 PM
The scales used by reloaders are marked in grains, not grams, and they're a different scale with a much higher weight capacity.:rolleyes:

?People selling drug paraphernalia are in essence no different than drug dealers,? said John Brown, acting DEA chief. ?They are as much a part of drug trafficking as silencers are a part of criminal homicide.?

This guy has been watching too much T.V.:barf:

Quartus
February 25, 2003, 06:47 PM
(I just woke up from a nap, I'm cranky, and that's the first thing I read.)


Ooooh, Justin, bad move. Just wake up and the first thing you read is about The Great Disappointment? His Honor, the Prince of Law and Order?


No wonder you're cranky!



Never in my life have I been so disappointed in an elected official. I honestly thought Ashcroft was going to be a good guy. :banghead:

Standing Wolf
February 25, 2003, 09:24 PM
Unless people are toking and driving, pot smoking is none of government's big nosy business; nor is drinking beer, or keeping and bearing arms, or wearing blue socks, or hanging out at thehighroad.org.

BlackArrow
February 25, 2003, 09:39 PM
Woo, they just shut down a "drug parphanalia" outfit that generated $50 million a year in taxes. I thought these morons were suppose to be concentrating on protecting us not shutting down Bong makers who pay taxes. Do we have an accountant here who can calculate the loss in tax revenue on a $50 mil. business, fed, state and local? It gets my attention. The comment made about "invading our homes, chilren can buy is BS," if a parent allows a child to buy bongs on-line they've got bigger problems. If bongs are outlawed they'll just go down to Wally World and buy a Dr. Greybowl and convert it or use it. What a waste and loss of tax dollars. Heck anyone can make a bong or any of the other stuff if they want to without too much thought. Glass jar with cork, take two pieces of 1/4 copper tubing, cut one to lenght of jar minus an inch, take the other and cut to length of cork stopper plus one inch. Take a lenght of plastic tubing........ aw, heck, you get the idea. Add a silencer and you've got a WOWZER......:banghead: WHAT A BUNCH OF MAROONS!

DeltaElite
February 25, 2003, 09:51 PM
What an idiot.
Of course anyone at the DEA should be cranky, if my agency had as little impact on society as the DEA does, I would be cranky too. :neener:

I have never even seen a silencer outside of a range or shop.
More lies to strengthen their position. :(

Kahr carrier
February 25, 2003, 10:20 PM
Dont the government have anything better to do like hunt down Terrorists or Protect Or Borders.:D

beemerb
February 25, 2003, 10:32 PM
blade67;
My dillon electronic scale will measure both gr and grams.I wonder if they will bust Dillon for selling drug para.
Bob

Tim Burke
February 26, 2003, 07:06 AM
I've never heard of such.

S_O_Laban
February 26, 2003, 07:33 AM
I did see on one of those cable "CSI" type shows that dealt with hard to solve crimes a story about a silencer. A guy hired a friend to break in and kill his family for family forturne. The kid that pulled the hit bought a book about silencers and made one out of tennis balls as described in the book. Some how they traced the sale of that book to this kid and with physical evidence at the crime site nailed both kids. Of course thats the "Readers Digest" version but I think you get the picture. Time to start controlling the illegal tennis ball trade??? NOT!

Salpalinja
February 26, 2003, 08:47 AM
I have not heard of any case where silencers were used in a weapon that was used for murder. And here one can buy silencers like a sixpack of beer.

Or maybe the chief is just sarcastic, dunno :D

Skunkabilly
February 26, 2003, 11:48 AM
I clean two guns in the morning, I clean two guns at night
I clean two guns in the afternoon, 'cause it makes me feel alright
I clean two guns in times of peace and two in times of war
I clean two guns when I clean two guns, and then I clean two more.

Suppressors and skunks...legalize, don't criticize! :D

Jmurman
February 26, 2003, 12:47 PM
Unless people are toking and driving, pot smoking is none of government's big nosy business; nor is drinking beer, or keeping and bearing arms, or wearing blue socks, or hanging out at thehighroad.org.

Agreed...I dont know what the Govt is thinking...I really dont.

yayarx7
February 26, 2003, 01:01 PM
I used to know a guy who did not use any drugs or even smoke tobacco. Yet he had the biggest hookah I've ever seen in my life. I swear, the sucker was at least a foot and a half tall. It was a souvenir he bought when he was in India, or some other country where using hookahs are all the rage.

Hell is that all! I brought back a 4 foot hukah for my non-smoking brother from Saudi last year. It looks so cool:D

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