Are all five screw K-38s pre-war?


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albanian
October 24, 2004, 09:17 PM
When did they stop making the 5 screw frame on the K-frames? Are the K-38s different than the K-22s or did they change the frame at the same time. In other words, are all 5 screw frames pre-war? Why is pre-war considered better than post war? Is it just that the guns seemed to have been made better or is there a real reason like more hand fitting in the pre-war guns.

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mec
October 24, 2004, 11:41 PM
I believe the K frames follow the pattern of all smiths. About 1956-57,screws started disappearing and they started calling them by model numbers. Some of the five screws date from 1946-mid 1950s.

for example, a five screw K 22 from 1947

albanian
October 24, 2004, 11:59 PM
That is by far the best looking K-22 I have ever seen. I bet you have a hard time shooting it because it is so pretty. Wow!. The K-38 I am buying doesn't look even close to that nice.

http://thehighroad.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=1313598

Plinkerton
October 25, 2004, 02:34 AM
Damn... That is very nice looking. :)

BluesBear
October 25, 2004, 05:03 AM
Are all five screw K-38s pre-war? NO

Around 1955 the upper sideplate screw was discontinued in favor of a internal hook to secure the sideplate.

They were then called four screw models.

Around 1961 the cylinder bolt spring retaining screw in front of the trigger guard was eliminated in favor of an internal recess.

This made replacing the locking bolt spring a lot more difficult but eliminated the possibility of it backing out under recoil and becoming lost wihich would leave one with a revolver that would not lock in firing position. :WHAT:

Hence the three screw designation.

Dave Markowitz
October 25, 2004, 08:10 PM
for example, a five screw K 22 from 1947

:what: :what: :what:

mec, you owe me a new keyboard. I just slobbered all over mine. WOW!

mec
October 25, 2004, 08:29 PM
Shot it today. I do that from time to time to see if I can still hit anything. Dang 'ol accurate gun too.

Standing Wolf
October 25, 2004, 08:29 PM
Why is pre-war considered better than post war? Is it just that the guns seemed to have been made better or is there a real reason like more hand fitting in the pre-war guns.

Hand fitting was a large part of the difference, as was attention to quality in general.

That's the prettiest K-22 I've ever seen!

mec
October 25, 2004, 08:37 PM
I also have a mod 17 made in 1991- unpinned. This one doesn't give up a thing to any K-22 of any vintage. Generally, pre-war ones were fitted by very skilled craftsmen and there have been periods of absent quality control but you can get a real jewell from any time period.

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