Danish pizzeria bans French and Germans


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Blackhawk
February 25, 2003, 06:02 PM
A Danish pizzeria has banned French and Germans from dining there because of their country's stance on a war with Iraq.

Aage Bjerre, who owns Aage's Pizza on the island of Fanoe, said he's tired of French and German attitudes toward the United States.

He's put two homemade drawings on the shop door, one a silhouette of a man coloured red, yellow and black for Germany and another in the red, white and blue for France.

Both silhouettes have a bar across them.

He says Germans will be allowed in if their country joins a war on Iraq, but the French will have to endure a lifetime ban.

Aage said: "Hadn't the United States helped Europe in defeating Germany, there would have been photos of Adolf Hitler hanging on the walls around here."

The ban has yet to effect his business because the tourist season only starts after Easter and peaks during the summer. "I do what my conscience tells me to do," he said.

He added: "Frenchmen have a lifetime ban here. Their attitude toward the United States will never change."

http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_754383.html?menu=news.quirkies

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Ledbetter
February 25, 2003, 06:21 PM
Good for him.:neener:

Ironically, I don't even think that would be legal here.

Phyphor
February 25, 2003, 07:31 PM
That'd be one fine place to dine at!:D

DeltaElite
February 25, 2003, 07:40 PM
I'm gonna order a pizza. :D

Skunkabilly
February 25, 2003, 07:47 PM
We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone.

I thought they just put that up for fun

Sarge
February 25, 2003, 07:56 PM
makes me right proud of my Danish blood. It annoys me to no end that the very people whose fat we pulled out of the fire are the very first ones to side with the thugs when we could use their help.

Oh well, no loss. Someone once said that "not having the French as an ally is about as disconcerting as not having an accordion along on a deer hunt."

My sentiments exactly.

BlackArrow
February 25, 2003, 09:03 PM
Wonder what his bottom line would look like if all members of THR ordered a delivery?:D It probably wouldn't be worth eating when it got here but the gesture would be worth a 1000 words. Anyone able to get an address or phone number?:evil:

StuporDave
February 25, 2003, 09:35 PM
If I could figure out how to do it, the next customer's pizza would be on me :D

DadOfThree
February 26, 2003, 01:50 AM
another in the red, white and blue for France
Do you suppose we could get the frogs to change their national colors? This ban might be misconstrued to mean Americans. :D Maybe France could go to red, white and YELLOW.

Azrael256
February 26, 2003, 01:58 AM
Mental note: Next time I'm on Fanoe, patronize this restaurant.

NewShooter78
February 26, 2003, 02:08 AM
Glad I'm 1/4 Danish! Many European countries are on our side on this one. Its just the big ones that seem to hold out more, and the French are universally disliked too. Its funny to see things like this.

Lancel
February 26, 2003, 02:26 AM
Early in my Army career, my unit would sometimes train in Denmark. People lined the roads to wave and cheer at the convoy like we were liberating the country.:)

Of all the places I've been in uniform, Denmark was by far the most positive toward Americans.

Larry

twoblink
February 26, 2003, 03:15 AM
I know where I'd eat if I was in Denmark..

Good for him!

French, banned for life!!! hahahahah!!:evil:

NonServiam
February 26, 2003, 04:01 AM
Here (http://www.ekstrabladet.dk/VisArtikel.iasp?PageID=194744) is a link to a Danish newspaper with the story. Don't suppose many of you read Danish, though :neener:

This is a picture of the man himself:
http://www.ekstrabladet.dk/images/6ja00ki6_3ac466317dafd29f.jpg

I do actually have the address and phone# to his pizzeria, but I'm not sure whether I should post it or not ... :confused:

foghornl
February 26, 2003, 09:10 AM
Maybe The Frogs should just change their color scheme to ALL yellow..............


:evil:

Always knew I liked the Danes for more than just the re-patriated M-1's and Ball M-2 formula ammo, but couldn't put my finger on why, till now.:D

Tropical Z
February 26, 2003, 11:44 AM
Good job!

Blackhawk
February 26, 2003, 11:49 AM
I do actually have the address and phone# to his pizzeria, but I'm not sure whether I should post it or not ... PLEASE do! :neener:

He might really appreciate letters and calls of support from supporters like me!

An email address would be great too.... :)

NonServiam
February 26, 2003, 12:18 PM
Do a search for "Aages Pizza" on http://www.danmarks.net ...

Please remember the time difference. Denmark is GMT+1h.

Blackhawk
February 26, 2003, 12:41 PM
Okay. That would be:

Aages Pizza
Valdemarsvej 14
6720 FANø
DENMARK

Telephone number from the U.S. is 011 + 45 + 7516 1122
(10:00 AM Eastern Time is 4:00 PM there, and it would probably help if you spoke Danish.... :D )

No Fax.
No email. :(
No Homepage. :(

CZ-75
February 26, 2003, 01:41 PM
Neil Boortz had him on today, but I missed the interview.

Danes are very likely to speak English, and that he was interviewed on the radio here probably means this man does as well.

Boortz is considering flying him over for a expenses paid vacation.

4v50 Gary
February 26, 2003, 02:04 PM
I'm not big on pizza overseas (with the exception of England, I like to try the local cuisine), but that's one pizzeria I'll go to.

trooper
February 26, 2003, 05:03 PM
What a nutcase.

I could as well boycott <insert country here> products because it's administration doesn't

1. liberate North Korea
2. negotiate a peace in Sudan
3. end Israeli-caused violence in the occupied territories
4. bring up a solution for the ongoing civil war in Colombia

or because it

1. trained and armed the Taliban back in the '80s
2. supported Saddam in his war against Iran
3. stepped out of the Kyoto treaty
4. supported dictators like Pinochet

and so on...

I don't buy the "If you don't absolutely agree with us to the fullest possible extent then you're our enemy"-ideology.

Now go ahead and call me a piece of euro-trash. I'm sick and tired of arguing with people who think we are the dark side of the force just because we dare to have a different opinion about certain things such as the question when a war is justified.

I support my government's effort to find a solution that doesn't involve all-out war.


Regards,

trooper

Blackhawk
February 26, 2003, 05:17 PM
Now go ahead and call me a piece of euro-trash. I'm sick and tired of arguing with people who think we are the dark side of the force just because we dare to have a different opinion about certain things such as the question when a war is justified.

I support my government's effort to find a solution that doesn't involve all-out war.

Okay. You're a piece of euro-trash. :rolleyes:

StuporDave
February 26, 2003, 07:38 PM
Now go ahead and call me a piece of euro-trash.

You asked for it. You're euro-trash. I'll ignore your ramblings now, thank you.

Dave

NonServiam
March 13, 2003, 04:44 AM
Update:

Mr Bjerre now has a website (http://hyggestedet.dk/aagespizza/) and an e-mail address: aagespizza@hyggestedet.dk

Leatherneck
March 13, 2003, 10:16 AM
What's up with the "trooper" moniker, Euro-trash. What sort of trooper might that be?Or is it just wishful thinking?:confused:

TC
TFL Survivor

Baron Holbach
March 13, 2003, 10:31 AM
I appreciate those European countries who support the U.S. against Iraq. I am very disappointed with the Germans but am not surprised at the behavior of the French. It is also very gratifying to know that most of eastern Europe supports the U.S.

Baron Holbach
March 13, 2003, 10:42 AM
Trooper, you are entitled to your opinion but I reserve the right to boycott any products from Germany or France.

CZ-75
March 13, 2003, 12:47 PM
Trooper apologized for any vitriol in his sentiments, if not for the opinions themselves.

Perhaps we should restrain ourselves from further name-calling, having been apprised of that fact.

waterdog
March 13, 2003, 12:51 PM
Funny!

waterdog

trooper
March 13, 2003, 01:12 PM
Leatherneck,

as I was sorta pissed-off and didn't choose my words carefully in my first post on this thread I'll answer you despite your name-calling.

What sort of trooper might that be?Or is it just wishful thinking?

Not really. I decided to choose this handle because I'm a police officer. I'm with the German Federal Border Police.

Does that answer your question?

BTW I don't insult you (or any other forum member) and I'd rather have you not calling me names either.


Regards

Trooper

cratz2
March 13, 2003, 01:47 PM
I like the general sentiment but not the thought process. I'll bet the guy isn't the very brightest guy around.

If 60% of Germans were against the way (last I heard) that leaves 40-ish percent that are for it. So now the guy is banning folks that support the war. Now if he wishes to ask every person that enters his place if they support the war, then so be it. Of course, it is his place.

Any person that bans people from using their establishment because of what some of their countrymen or people that 'look like them' is a racist and shame on you guys for supporting it. :fire:

Blackhawk
March 13, 2003, 02:53 PM
Mr Bjerre now has a website and an e-mail address: aagespizza@hyggestedet.dk
Excellent! Thanks, NonServiam! :D

M1911
March 13, 2003, 03:28 PM
I support my government's effort to find a solution that doesn't involve all-out war.Since 1991, the US and UK have been flying armed military aircraft over Iraq (the Northern and Southern no-fly zones). Iraq tries to shoot them down almost daily. We bomb their AAA and SAM sites almost daily. Sure sounds like war to me. Seems to me it is time to sh*t or get off the pot.

So, what are we supposed to do about this situation? If the US and UK stop enforcing the no-fly zone, Saddam will once again slaughter the Shias in the south and the Kurds in the north and Europe will yell at us for leaving them in the lurch. How much longer are the US and UK supposed to keep this up?

We can't tighten the embargo any tighter because 1) there's no stomach in the UN for that and 2) the current embargo is enriching Saddam and starving the Iraqi people. If we end the embargo, Saddam rearms, kills people in the north and south, and once again threatens his neighbors.

I'm all ears for a solution other than war. But we've had 12 years of the UN talking, the security council passing resolutions, inspectors being hoodwinked, Saddam defying the resolutions, and the result is still that Iraq is a threat, to its people, its neighbors, and through terrorism to the US and western world.

Do you remember back to Bosnia, when the violence started? The european powers told the US "No, this is our back yard and we're the new europe, we'll handle this." So they talked and talked and threatened and.....did nothing. The world watched while Serbia (mostly) and Croatia (partly) carried out "ethnic cleansing." Europe sent in peacekeepers who....were too lightly armed to defend themselves, let alone keep the peace. And in the end, who has to come in with the big hammer and stop Serbia? You guessed it, Uncle Sam. And, of course, we get all sorts of grief for 1) not doing so sooner and 2) doing it at all. Same deal in Kosovo.

The European countries won't (and can't, because of their meager defense budgets) carry out the trash. If we decide not to carry out the trash, they get pissed at us. If we decide to carry out the trash, they get pissed at us for doing it. If they ask us to carry out the trash, they tell us that we're doing it wrong. Sorry, but I've just about had it with the anti-americanism.

moa
March 13, 2003, 05:58 PM
Trooper is just angry that Don Johnson slipped through their fingers. :D

Incidentally, I hope your Border Police are more effective than ours. But then again, with France on the border, you have no choice. :D

trooper
March 14, 2003, 03:43 AM
Incidentally, I hope your Border Police are more effective than ours.

Nah, don't think so. There are plenty of fine, motivated men and women in our agency but we're ridiculously underfunded. Most of our equipment (except cars, computers and night vision technology) goes back to the 80's. Besides this we're restricted by a lot of petty bureaucracy.

But then again, with France on the border, you have no choice.

I work on the Polish border which is actually worse. Illegal immigration in western direction, stolen goods being trafficked the opposite way, and here's the best thing about it: in a couple years Poland will join the EU and the Schengen treaty, the border checkpoints will be opened up and the bad guys will be thumbing their noses at us.


Regards,

Trooper

M1911
March 14, 2003, 08:52 AM
I work on the Polish border which is actually worse. Illegal immigration in western direction, stolen goods being trafficked the opposite way, and here's the best thing about it: in a couple years Poland will join the EU and the Schengen treaty, the border checkpoints will be opened up and the bad guys will be thumbing their noses at us.That's one thing that I just don't get about the EU. Seems like they've opened themselves up to a huge amount of crime by no longer policing the borders.

trooper
March 14, 2003, 09:10 AM
Well, right now we still do police the EU exterior borders. What I meant was that when Poland becomes an EU/Schengen member they will take over the duty of policing the EU's eastern border.

And based on previous experiences I'm not so sure about the Polish security forces.

Additionally, a fair share of the bad guys we have to deal with are Polish, be they trafficking human beings into Germany or stolen cars out of Germany. They will soon be EU citizens who can travel freely from Warszaw all the way to Madrid.

This is not meant to degrade Poland or something. I just believe that Poland has some serious problems regarding organized crime and corruption which have to be solved before the country is ready to join the EU.


Regards,

Trooper

cordex
March 14, 2003, 10:25 AM
I support my government's effort to find a solution that doesn't involve all-out war.
Me too. Absolutely. War should never be the first option.
But our respective governments have tried for well over a decade to no avail. Do you propose that we just haven't tried for long enough?
I don't buy the "If you don't absolutely agree with us to the fullest possible extent then you're our enemy"-ideology.
Nor do I. And you are not my enemy.
That said, your government is (as is its right) attempting to stand in the way of our government in this issue. While they are certainly welcome to their opinions and even open opposition, this is not conducive to good foreign relations.

The good gentleman who wishes not to serve Germans or French is making a poor decision in my eyes. His efforts would be better directed at the ideology he opposes rather than the countries in which the majority are against this war. *shrug* But as it is the French and German government's choice to oppose the war, it is the Danish fellow's choice not to serve citizens of those countries.

Still, it is rather nice to have this wee bit of European moral support.

.45FMJoe
March 14, 2003, 10:59 AM
I e-mailed him my support :)

Mark Benningfield
March 14, 2003, 04:19 PM
Hello All.

Thanks for the link, NonServiam. I sent him a letter thanking him for his support. Boy, I'll tell you, the Internet really does shrink the world a bit, doesn't it. :D

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