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Briansammo
November 1, 2004, 04:19 AM
http://pages.sbcglobal.net/bommer/When_The_Man_Comes_Around.html

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patentmike
November 1, 2004, 09:26 AM
Thanks Briansammo!

ReadyontheRight
November 1, 2004, 11:29 AM
Gotta love J.C.

Briansammo
November 1, 2004, 02:36 PM
If you like Johnny Cash "The Man In Black" then here's another good one!

http://www.markromanek.com/video/14_video.html

lee n. field
November 1, 2004, 02:42 PM
Interesting. You do, I hope, recognize where JC's getting a lot of his phrases from.

Briansammo
November 1, 2004, 02:45 PM
I forget who wrote the song for him, some rock group singer I think?

patentmike
November 1, 2004, 03:19 PM
My understanding was that it was written by a guy named John (no last name), but a few others may have done covers over the years.

GoLambo
November 1, 2004, 03:20 PM
Trent Reznor of Nine Inch Nails. Cash covered the song Hurt from "The Downward Spiral", he didn't write it for him. That album is over 10 years old now. I love it when some of ya' old guys get all flaired up about who originaly wrote the song. :evil:

I think im going to spend the rest of my day going through my Cash stuff, thanks for that little reminder. :)

lee n. field
November 1, 2004, 04:48 PM
I was thinking more of the New Testament apocalyptic imagery.

patentmike
November 1, 2004, 07:11 PM
Revelations.
I love it when the young pups think they've reinvented the wheel.:D

GoLambo
November 1, 2004, 07:33 PM
The Downword Spiral, and specificly Hurt, isn't normaly associated with the Bible. Of course, you can give a song any meaning you want. It's all about the context. What Cash was thinking we'll never know, so I guess that's up to you to figure out for yourself.

And we didn't reinvent the wheel, we just spun it backwords... :scrutiny:

CannibalCrowley
November 1, 2004, 08:01 PM
Sheesh, whoever put the pics in video from the first post has some problems. I suspect that being a bigot is the least of such. Didn't we already go through an event here where ignorant people tried to blame 9/11 on all of Islam? :barf:

GhostRider-Nine
November 1, 2004, 08:12 PM
Maybe if "all of Islam", or even a very small part of it, would have come forward and condemed the attacks, many people would not be so quick to paint them all as bad. Now I know that all of Islam is not bad. Heck I used to eat in a Mid East type deli, and the people there DID condem the attacks. I just wish the world leaders of Islam would do the same thing.

patentmike
November 2, 2004, 08:03 AM
Cannibal, maybe you should go to the library and flip open the koran before you start telling people what islam is really like..

CannibalCrowley
November 2, 2004, 08:43 AM
patentmike Cannibal, maybe you should go to the library and flip open the koran before you start telling people what islam is really like.. Any religion can be used for evil purposes, that doesn't make the religion itself evil.

The stance of the mods follows LawDog's post pretty closelyIt may just be me, but I don't think that someone who opines that we need to wipe out the entire Muslim faith should be using a Muslim's bandwidth, server or hardware to do so.

It's just kind of smacks of theft, to be using the property of a Muslim to call for the theocracide of his entire religion.

And besides, if you're out to get rid of the entire Church if Islam, you're morally bound not to be supporting one of its children by bipping about on his server/bandwidth.Or from OlegAdvocacy of genocide or religious or racial supermacy will be unwelcome and grounds for account termination, even if politely expressed.

pax
November 2, 2004, 09:42 AM
GhostRider-Nine:

A quote from an excellent post that LawDog made over on TFL:
I don't know what irritates me more: 1)That this question gets asked, for instance over at THR, at which time someone (like Marko Kloos) digs up a wagon-load of links to published condemnations from Muslims, and next thing I know the questions gets asked again; or

2)That the person asking this question (yet again) can't find www.google.com or www.teoma.com, can't input 'muslim' + 'terror' + 'condemnation', and/or can't read the outpourings of Muslim condemnations for themselves.

So. In the interests of answering the damned question AGAIN, I went to www.google.com, input 'muslim condemnation of terrorism' and got 47,400 hits. Some of which (yet again) I herein post for general enlightenment.

9/11 condemnations:
http://www.cair-net.org/html/911statements.html
http://www.al-islam.org/dilp_statement.html
http://www.muhajabah.com/otherscondemn.php

Russian school takeover:
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exe...31595D1A4F5.htm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3628836.stm
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/inte...1297664,00.html
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast...s.ap/index.html

Nicholas Berg:
http://www.muhajabah.com/islamicblo...llah/008824.php
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=30274
http://www.islam-online.net/English...article08.shtml
http://www.islamonline.net/English/...article03.shtml

Here are the "outpouring of condemnation for these terrorist attacks from all of the peaceful Muslims".

I trust this fully and completely answers the question, and I further trust that this question need not be asked here, or at THR, again.

LawDog
pax

GhostRider-Nine
November 2, 2004, 10:14 AM
Sorry, I must have missed it. It was probably drowned out by all the Arabs cheering.

Briansammo
November 2, 2004, 12:52 PM
Google search hits or not the fact is that within their own homes and communities they feel 911 and the War on Terror will only expand the role of Islam, which is the goal of Islam. Any non believer in Islam is an Infidel and should/will be treated as such.

Islam just like gun owners and moms against drunk driving etc. has their group of roll-overs or panderers while the bulk stays somewhat faithful.
So.....as many Moslems as there are in the world (and here) 47,000 hits is like having a TV with only 2 channels, better than nothing but not really.

I say flush the entire Middle East and make a parking lot out of it!


:evil:

roscoe
November 2, 2004, 01:19 PM
Oh brother.

At least the adults have shown up.

lee n. field
November 2, 2004, 02:07 PM
The Downword Spiral, and specificly Hurt, isn't normaly associated with the Bible. Of course, you can give a song any meaning you want.

"virgins trimming their wicks", "Alpha and Omega", "hard for thee to kick against the pricks", "whoever is unrighteous, let him be unrighteous still, etc." These are all phrases from the NT.

What CD is this from? I think I might want to get a copy.

Rebar
November 2, 2004, 02:11 PM
I think there's some confusion here.

There are two songs , "when the man comes around" and "hurt".

"When the man comes around" is filled with biblical references.

"Hurt" is a Nine Inch Nails song.

wasrjoe
November 2, 2004, 02:15 PM
Lee, you two are talking about different songs. You are talking about the song in the very first post - the one with 9/11 and pro-Bush stuff. GoLambo is referring to the song, "Hurt". You are correct about the song you are referring to, and he the song he is referring to. :)

Edit: Damn, someone beat me to it.

Mr. James
November 2, 2004, 04:34 PM
Perhaps I join lee n. field (great handle!) in being uncomfortable about this flash video. By the way, the CD is American IV, and is available here:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00006L7XQ/103-6947982-0187040

Be cautioned, it is HIGHLY uneven - some great stuff mixed with some real groaners (Cash warbling The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face is downright embarrassing.)



When the Man Comes Around was written by Cash, and is his deeply reverent reflection on the Apocalypse of St. John (Revelations), certainly the most misunderstood Book of the Bible. He said in the liner notes to the CD he had written about 27 pages of lyrics based on the New Testament, and labored mightily to pare the song to its present length. If you listen carefully, this is a powerful song, the best on the CD, IMHO.

It is specifically about the Second Coming of Jesus Christ at the end of days, and the general Judgement which awaits mankind.

To link President Bush to the Second Coming of Christ would offend the former no end, and it could be said to be (if unintentionally) blashphemous. Of course, Jesus forgave His executioners as they nailed Him to a tree, so He might be above such niggling concerns.

Cash won a Grammy for his cover of Reznor's Hurt, which is on the same CD.

Also, the visual equating of all if Islam with the islamofascists should give us all pause. I've no illusions about our enemy in the present conflict (it ain't the IRA or the Zapatistas), but there's plenty of evidence (posted above) of Muslims denouncing the butchery.

kimbernut
November 2, 2004, 05:03 PM
Thanks- Great site! If this election gos as I hope, it will be a great victory site as well. 'Preciate you sharing it!

lee n. field
November 2, 2004, 05:43 PM
Perhaps I join lee n. field (great handle!) in being uncomfortable about this flash video. By the way, the CD is American IV, and is available here:

Twelve bucks? Clickityclick, ordered. Thanks.

patentmike
November 2, 2004, 06:02 PM
If JR Cash weren't already dead, adherents to the religion of peace and tolerance would probably let him know in no uncertain terms what they think of his video.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20041102/ap_en_mo/netherlands_filmmaker_slain_4

Derek Zeanah
November 2, 2004, 06:16 PM
At least we're not posting videos that suggest that GW is the second coming of Christ. :neener:

Atticus
November 2, 2004, 06:29 PM
"At least we're not posting videos that suggest that GW is the second coming of Christ."

That could be prophetic if he wins. ...crucified by the media and then resurrected. :neener:

psyopspec
November 2, 2004, 07:07 PM
Google search hits or not the fact is that within their own homes and communities they feel 911 and the War on Terror will only expand the role of Islam, which is the goal of Islam. Any non believer in Islam is an Infidel and should/will be treated as such.


Now reread that and insert the word "Christianity" where you currently see the word "Islam." The two religions have been calling eachother infidels and slaughtering one another for centuries. If you're Christian, you're not automatically a better person just a Muslim is not a greater human being simply for his religion.

When I was in Iraq, I was surprised to find out what the average guy was like. Most Iraqi adult males wanted religious freedom, good business opportunities, education for their kids, RKBA. Remind you of anyone you know?

BTW, the liner notes say that Cash wrote the song based on a dream. Don't remember much more than that.

CannibalCrowley
November 2, 2004, 07:39 PM
patentmike If JR Cash weren't already dead, adherents to the religion of peace and tolerance would probably let him know in no uncertain terms what they think of his video.
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=sto...lmmaker_slain_4 Your comprehension must not be very good so I'll write it again. Any religion can be used for evil purposes, that doesn't make the religion itself evil.

Here in Michigan an Eagle Scout recently murdered a man because he was an atheist.

LINK (http://www.freep.com/news/cfp/3/vshoot28_20041028.htm) He tried once more to convince the victim to believe in God, but this time, he had the shotgun.

"How long would it take you to believe in God?" the suspect said he asked the victim.

"Not until I hear Gabriel blow his horn," the victim allegedly replied, while tipping his hat.

That's when the suspect shot him.

"I did it because he is evil; he was not a believer," the suspect told police. Hmm, a whole lot of brotherly love there. Does this make all Christians murderers? I don't think so, of course I choose to judge people as individuals and not by their religion.

Briansammo
November 2, 2004, 07:51 PM
I am not promoting religion one way or the other here, I know all faiths are guilty of bigotry at some point in time.

The problem is that in our current time the folks yelling Allah are the ones doing the most harm with plans to do more till infinity.

I know and like some of the Moslems I have met, I do not like what I have read in the Koran. In the Koran many of it's verses are adamant about their/It's goal of being THE religion of the world and that all others must be subjugated or those persons killed.

From an Apocalyptic standpoint the Middle East is where it all boils down to, once again let's just turn the whole damn place into a parking lot or golf course with grass traps!

patentmike
November 3, 2004, 01:45 PM
Look at the Koran Cannibal. It is scriptural to kill infidels, no twisitng required. It's the "moderate" muslims who have to distance themselves from what the Koran really says in black and white. It's amazing how liberals spout a view of a "tolerant islam" that even most muslims would not recognize.

It's good of you to set up a high "standard" by which you judge people, but people who disagree with you are necessarily "slow to comprehend"?.

I can't match wits with you, that's for sure. I'm done.

Derek Zeanah
November 3, 2004, 01:48 PM
Look at the Koran Cannibal. It is scriptural to kill infidels, no twisitng required.No, it's not.

pax
November 3, 2004, 04:03 PM
Closed.

THR will not be used to call for genocide. Nor do we tolerate members flaming each other, calling each other names, insulting one another, or otherwise behaving in a surly or rude manner.

pax

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