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beemerb
November 1, 2004, 01:52 PM
Source http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2004-11-01-gun-injuries_x.htm


Study: Thousands hurt each year by BBs, air guns
CHICAGO (AP) — A study has found that air rifles, paintball pistols and BB guns injure as many as 21,000 Americans each year, undermining the notion that such weapons are harmless in the hands of young people.
Nonpowder guns kill an average of four Americans yearly, and from 1990 to 2000, there were 39 such deaths — 32 of children younger than 15, according to a report in November's issue of Pediatrics.

The report, published Monday, comes just two weeks after the BB gun death of an 8-year-old South Carolina boy accidentally killed by a 13-year-old friend. The pellet pierced the boy's heart, said Gary Watts, Richland County coroner.

"These are not the kinds of BB guns that I grew up with," Watts said. Today's BB guns "are extremely high-powered," and some can shoot with a velocity nearly matching a .22 caliber rifle, Watts said.

Nonpowder guns include powerful air rifles introduced in the 1970s and paintball pistols used in war games. They're sometimes described as fake guns and often given to children as gifts, but the report says they can cause internal injuries.

Nationally, an estimated 21,840 injuries related to nonpowder guns were treated in emergency departments in 2000 — most in children aged 5 to 14, according to the report prepared by the American Academy of Pediatrics' Committee on Injury, Violence and Prevention.

Data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention show there were 19,163 nonpowder gun injuries last year.

Most states have laws or regulations governing nonpowder guns. New York's is one of the strictest, prohibiting the purchase or unsupervised use by someone younger than 16 years, the Pediatrics report said.

While some models of air guns and BB guns are marketed specifically to youngsters, manufacturers and sellers also stress that they should be handled like legitimate firearms.

The gun involved in the South Carolina shooting was a present from the older boy's parents, who had hoped it would lift his spirits after his own brother's recent death in a car accident, Watts said.

"They're being given as toys without recognition that there may be a serious injury risk," said report author Danielle Laraque, a New York pediatrician.


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Standing Wolf
November 1, 2004, 03:17 PM
Is it time to burn down the village to save it yet?

halvey
November 1, 2004, 03:33 PM
I'm so glad theres a group of people trying to eliminate every facet of risk.

longeyes
November 1, 2004, 04:07 PM
They've convinced me: Being alive is just too risky.

Spot77
November 1, 2004, 04:26 PM
Ya' know, if more people were gun owners, this wouldn't be a problem.


Don't you you think every THR member has taught the four rules to their kids and to emphasize that "nonpowder" guns be handled with the same care and respect?




Of course as a kid my favorite pastime was a good bb gun war in the woods :neener:

SteveS
November 1, 2004, 08:30 PM
"These are not the kinds of BB guns that I grew up with," Watts said. Today's BB guns "are extremely high-powered," and some can shoot with a velocity nearly matching a .22 caliber rifle, Watts said.

Is this true? Honestly, I haven't shot a BB gun in years, but I have seen ads in gun mags for some pretty expensive BB guns. As for paintball guns, I guess they could potentially injure someone.

As a parent, I am teaching my children to treat all guns properly and safely.

nico
November 1, 2004, 08:43 PM
i wonder if the paintball injuries they mention include welts and bruises that are inherent in the sport? I don't see why personal accountability is such a foreign idea to some people. My cousin got a BB gun when he was 10 and was only allowed to shoot it with his parents present until he was 15 or 16. His parents taught him that it wasn't a toy to be taken lightly or treated like a toy. He never had any accidents and has hunted for the last year (he just graduated from high school) without any problems. I really think the problem here is with people who think guns are evil and have never handled one, but turn around and buy their kid a paintball gun or bb gun without teaching them the bare minimum safety precautions (possibly because they don't know them themselves) because, after all, it's not a real gun.:rolleyes:

El Tejon
November 1, 2004, 09:58 PM
The Left has long been whining about luftgewehren. Entices the youngsters to firearms don't you know.

"60 Minutes" ran a huge hit piece on airguns about 15 years ago. ATLA has an entire section devoted to airgun liability.

Jeff Cooper proposed dividing the country into Self-Reliant America and Dependent America. Maybe it should be "Whiny" and "Manly" America?

nico
November 1, 2004, 10:51 PM
i meant to ask this in my original post, but what's the difference between an air rifle and a bb gun?

Third_Rail
November 1, 2004, 11:08 PM
Air rifles have rifled barrels, BB guns have smoothbores.


As for the .22 velocity quote, yes, actually. Only with a 5.4grain projectile, and not accurately, but the best can bring them up to almost 1250fps, from first hand experience.

JPM70535
November 1, 2004, 11:18 PM
Always remember what your Momma said when asked if you could have one, "youll shoot your eye out with it".

JDThorns
November 2, 2004, 02:00 AM
That is a 177 cal that will go through both sides of a 5 lb maxwell coffee can filled with water, man they have come a long way with those things:D

F4GIB
November 2, 2004, 02:12 AM
JDThorns,
Where do I get one of those HIGH POWERED chinese airguns?

Nathanael_Greene
November 2, 2004, 12:39 PM
I realize that it's a tragedy on a personal level, but 39 kids over a ten-year period doesn't exactly sound like an epidemic.

Where does that rank compared to swimming pools, riding in cars, playground equipment, running into traffic, etc?

Brian Dale
November 3, 2004, 01:52 AM
Nathanael_Greene, Where does that rank compared to swimming pools {etc.}Four a year? It's probably fewer than choke to death on kitchen spices or baby powder.

Silent-Snail
November 3, 2004, 02:28 AM
These are not the kinds of BB guns that I grew up with," Watts said. Today's BB guns "are extremely high-powered," and some can shoot with a velocity nearly matching a .22 caliber rifle, Watts said.

Where do I get one. Mine won't hold pressure past twelve pumps. :D If BB/air guns get regulated to the extent that regular firearms are I will soon be bound for a small Pacific island. NEVER underestimate the power of the stupid.

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