CCW & picking up people at airports


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gigmike
November 1, 2004, 09:58 PM
I have absolutely no confusion about the illegality of carrying a concealed firearm in an airport. However how about outside the airport like at the curb picking up or dropping off passengers?

I've looked for this on packing.org and didn't find anything. By driving on airport roads am I on airport property in such a manner that would prohibit carrying? Seems too close to call.

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tc300mag1
November 1, 2004, 10:05 PM
Thats is a good question i havent found anyone can tell me one way or the other my cousin a super trooper says not a problem as long as you dont leave car i never do anyways i just drop off and pick up with out leaving the ca.

TheBluesMan
November 1, 2004, 10:31 PM
It is my understanding that if you are on airport property, you are subject to being searched.

deanf
November 1, 2004, 10:37 PM
I have absolutely no confusion about the illegality of carrying a concealed firearm in an airport.

Why do you think this is so?

In Washington, it is perfectly legal to carry in an airport under the authority of your Washington Concealed Pistol License, as long as you don't attempt to pass through the security checkpoints and into the so-called sterile area of the airport.

There are no Washington State or federal laws against gun possession on airports, outside the sterile areas past the security checkpoints.

Flyboy
November 1, 2004, 11:55 PM
I routinely carry at the airport. Heck, I don't fly without a gun these days.

'Course, I also sit in seat 0-A...

Zak Smith
November 2, 2004, 12:00 AM
I have absolutely no confusion about the illegality of carrying a concealed firearm in an airport.
I think you're wrong there. Carrying is illegal in the secured areas. If you are not in a secured area, unless you have a separate State Law, I think you are fine.

-z

QuarterBoreGunner
November 2, 2004, 12:01 AM
The California Department of Justice handbook on CCW states specifically that your 'license to carry a concealed firearm' is invalid on Federal Property; defined (by the Great State of California) as airports, post-offices, federal court houses, and any other federal property such as military bases.


Which isn't really much of a problem here in SF... concealed means concealed right?

deanf
November 2, 2004, 12:11 AM
I'm not aware of an international U.S. airport that is owned by fed.gov. Seattle-Tacoma International Airport is owned by The Port of Seattle. That info from California seems misleading.

gigmike
November 2, 2004, 12:56 AM
I just re-read Dave Workman's book "WA State Gun Rights & Responsibilities and while I didn't find the particular question addressed, I also found nothing prohibiting concealed carry on Port Of Seattle property.

It's just not clearly addressed like it is for schools or gov't buildings.

deanf
November 2, 2004, 01:00 AM
Why don't you go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wa-ccw/ and ask Workman directly? Just post a message with your question. He's almost sure to respond.

QuarterBoreGunner
November 2, 2004, 01:12 AM
That info from California seems misleading. Well of course it is! It's from the Cali DOJ! Logic has nothing to do with it...

Powderman
November 2, 2004, 02:32 AM
Concealed carry in the State of WA, under the provisions of RCW 9.41, is perfectly legal in airports, as long as you do NOT pass the boundaries of the secured areas.

And, for future reference, the rule of thumb is this:

If it has a sign on it that says you have to be 21 to enter, carrying there is NOT a good thing to do. Ditto on posted private property and the obvious places--federal buildings, courtrooms, schools, ad infinitum, ad nauseam, etc.

Sincerely,

Powderman

your friendly neighborhood Tribal cop.

HankB
November 2, 2004, 08:36 AM
In Texas with a CHL you may carry concealed on airport property, EXCEPT in the secured areas.

Other restrictions may still apply - for example, an airport bar outside the secured area that makes 51% of its sales in alcohol for on-premesis consumption is still off limits, as is a business that has posted a valid PC30.06 sign, by my reading of the law.

Shovelhead
November 2, 2004, 11:32 AM
In Virginia, Dulles International Airport is accessed via the Dulles Access Road.
A 16 mile 4 lane road built with federal money.
This road is considered property of the airport.
The airports and parking lots in our area are considered no carry areas.
If you are caught for a traffic infraction on this road, they WILL arrest you for "carrying" on airport property.
This is now in the process of being reviewed and overturned (hopefully).

spacemanspiff
November 2, 2004, 01:17 PM
taken from my local police departments website, on the list of "don'ts" in regards to ccw:

Knowingly carry a concealed weapon within the grounds of or the parking lot immediately adjacent to public/private schools, licensed daycare facilities, federal, city, and state buildings, domestic violence shelters, airports, and courthouses

i'm no lawyer, but if i read that correctly, and compare it to what is written in the state law, the APD are making more restrictions than the law allows.

because, if what the APD says is law, then if i even drive into the parking lot adjacent to the aforementioned buildings, i'd be breaking law.

therefore, i view what the APD posted as a suggestion. because it would also mean that when i go to watch a hockey game at a city-owned arena, my entering the parking lot with a concealed weapon would be unlawful.

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