I just recently got my NAA .22 mag short barrel, but I have a question about the "safety" notches.
When I fully cock the hammer (UNLOADED GUN), and while still holding the hammer I pull the trigger and let the hammer come forward slowly back down onto a chamber the hammer comes fully forward.
But when I follow the manual and half cock the hammer, and then pull it back further to get the cylinder to move freely, and then line up a "safety notch", when I pull the trigger letting the hammer come forward, it doesn't come fully forward like when its lined up on a chamber. And per the manual I check to see if the cylinder will turn, and the cylinder will not turn, but there some "play" in the cylinder. It moves a little bit, more than the cylinder moves when sitting on a chamber. And when I say moves, it moves like it would if it were going to rotate, because I check it by trying to rotate it manually.
So is that little gap normal? I'm going to post a picture the first one will be of the gun with it in the "safety" notch showing the gap. The second will be under the next post and will be of the hammer fully forward resting on a chamber.
I'd really appreciate help from other owners or people who are familiar with this gun. THANKS!
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November 1, 2004, 11:13 PM
OK, now here is the photo of the hammer fully forward resting on a chamber, with no gap.
November 2, 2004, 09:31 AM
I'd never noticed that before, but that's exactly the way mine is. I'd say it's normal.
November 2, 2004, 01:14 PM
What I'd do next is remove the cylinder, put the base pin back in and then full-cock the gun. Now look at the hammer's business end, look at the cylinder's safety notch, figure out if there should indeed be some horizontal slop (is the notch bigger than the hammer? By how much?)
Basically, as long as the hammer face is going into the safety notch, and the cylinder can't turn to put a live primer under the hammer, and the gun still cocks and fires from a safety notch starting point, it's all good. While in the safety notch position, you do NOT need "solid lockup" at all.
November 2, 2004, 01:53 PM
Mine looks identical. I would say that is normal. There is a bit of play in the cylinder when the hammer is in the safety notch, but not much -- its not going anywhere.
November 2, 2004, 04:00 PM
What they said!
If it's in the notch, don't worry about it. That's good skinny.
November 2, 2004, 04:19 PM
I appreciate the help from everybody, looks like my gun is good to go!
November 3, 2004, 01:06 PM
I, too, have noticed the same thing about my NAA mini that you have. The hammer does indeed rest lower over an empty chamber than over the half-cock notch.
Also, when the hammer is resting over an empty chamber and you try pulling it back slowly just enough to rotate the cylinder, more distance is required than when the hammer is resting over the half-cock notch.
For this reason, I feel it is safer to carry over an empty chamber than the half-cock notch because there is less of a chance that the hammer may be pulled back enough for the cylinder to rotate to a loaded chamber.
This is just my opinion, though, because the half-cock is recomended by the factory.
November 4, 2004, 10:40 AM
I realize that his just your opinion. It may be "safer" to carry over an empty cylinder, but it is unnecessary in my opinion. In years of pocket carrying a mini, I have never had it come out of the safety notch. It would take a considerable amount of pressure on the hammer to accomplish that.
Ultimately, it is about what you are comfortable with, but if I need the gun, I want all 5 rounds available.
It would be even safer to carry the gun unloaded... ;)
November 4, 2004, 06:02 PM
If you are carrying it for last-ditch protection, then every shot will count. I really wouldn't want to reduce my odds of survival by 20%, and that is precisely what carrying with an unloaded chamber means. As others have noted, it would take a hammer to break the notch enough to permit the cylinder to rotate when the hammer is in the safety notch. It sounds to me as if your mini is working as designed, so I wouldn't worry about it.
November 6, 2004, 03:57 PM
The NAA safety system is perfectly safe if you have it in the notch correctly. None I have ever seen have had any type of a gap when the hammer was properly rested in the safety notch. It's a little tricky at first to get it in there correctly. Once youhave the cylinder rotated you need to pull the hammer back out of half cock and then press the trigger in fully and place the hammer in the notch. At this point there should be no movement of the cylinder. If it has arrested the movement of the cylinder and still has a gap, I would contact NAA's technical support.