There IS a difference between our reaction to loss and their reaction


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Cosmoline
November 3, 2004, 01:43 AM
This is interesting. The prospect of a Kerry victory makes me want to:

hunker down

expect a new ASB and perhaps grab something neat to get grandfather rights

Focus energy on the Senate and House

Plan for 2008, when we get a fresh deck of cards and can re-think things

Look on the bright side, as Kerry will likely resemble LBJ within four years and will bungle the war on terror badly

Be philosophical, as I never liked GW much anyway

chalk it up to a campaign that went too negative, remember Reagan fondly with his "Morning in America" campaign

Vow personally to "turn" as many antis as I can to my side of the Force by 2008

go to bed, maybe watch "Dawn of the Dead"

IN CONTRAST

The prospect of a GW victory makes the core leftists on DU want to:

Riot

Blame "the man" for rigging the election

call for lawsuits and mass protests

make threats about leaving the nation

scream about how stupid Americans are (I'm not making that up--to look for yourself)

tear out their hair

kill Republicans

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Carlos
November 3, 2004, 02:02 AM
Kerry won't win.

OK, back to the news.

Unisaw
November 3, 2004, 02:08 AM
Check out democratic underground. Most of the posts consist of one word -- the F word.

Kingcreek
November 3, 2004, 02:14 AM
DU is in absolute hair-pulling, bug-eyed, hysterical fits! I would love to read more of thier posts but I don't want to wake my wife up with my laughing.

Sindawe
November 3, 2004, 02:20 AM
They've closed themselves to unregistered users. I guess they want to have a good hysterical cry in private.

BWAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHA



<GASP> I've not had this much fun in an election in...well never! :evil: :evil: :evil:

Destructo6
November 3, 2004, 02:37 AM
DU is in absolute hair-pulling, bug-eyed, hysterical fits!
Their main site claims that exit polling is more accurate than counting the votes. Odd, because the Kerry campaign was reportedly shocked to hear the numbers coming back from those polls as so favorable.

one45auto
November 3, 2004, 02:49 AM
I was in the DU earlier, shortly before they closed it to unregistered users, and what I saw was absolutely hilarious ~ several were close to suffering brain anueryms, some were issuing threats, and the rest were sulking moodily and on the verge of tears.

Darned if I'm not enjoying myself immensely. :D

Kingcreek
November 3, 2004, 03:11 AM
We should be sympathetic to thier pain...
Enough of that, let the gloating begin!:neener:

StephenT
November 3, 2004, 03:14 AM
I wonder how Michael Moore feels right now. It's a done deal for Bush. No way Ohio will turn out to be in favor of Kerry.

No4Mk1
November 3, 2004, 04:15 AM
Cosmoline, I was thinking the exact same thing. I am actually proud of the way that we have comported ourselves here tonight. It is a striking contrast.

pax
November 3, 2004, 04:33 AM
There IS a difference between our reaction to loss and their reaction
No, there's not.

Go back over to TFL and browse through the dates surrounding the last presidential election, if you doubt it.

pax

Valkman
November 3, 2004, 04:33 AM
I was just in there - holy crap are they coming undone!

"WE HAVE TO MAKE A STAND


PERIOD .THIS CANT STAND THIS IS CIVIL WAR"

"There's 2 kinds of Republicans: rich ones and stupid ones"

And this nugget:
"...bin Laden and Bush are on the same team. Bush let 9-11 happen because 3000 lives in a blue state don't mean ???? to him. What's a little electoral fraud when shaping the USSC for the next 40 years is the prize? In Iraq, Saddam often got 99% of the vote. I think THOSE elections had more claim to legitimacy than Bush has right to claim. Fxxx him. Before, he just wasn't my President. Now, he's my fxxxing enemy."

Right now I'm glad these freaks don't have guns. :)

Remington788
November 3, 2004, 05:49 AM
They are advocating violence though which makes me wonder how they can call us gunnuts violent:confused:

Tharg
November 3, 2004, 07:03 AM
I don't know .... i wasn't paying as much attention 4 years ago.. but i am now... call it what you will...

what i saw/see

a DNC that didn't have people busting in the doors, or protests outside etc or people flying off of buildings stretching out huge signs... didn't see news coverage of cops <cough> escorting people out...

a RNC that had all of the above....

I will forever find it funny that the dems have shown themselves to be more feverent in thier protest/idiocy to a sponsored/died in the wool this is a republican event... than our fellow rep's did on THIER sponsored/died in the woold this is a democrat event....

Your followers are indicative of your constituency... (sp?) if i could manage to not go down the generalization trying to be funny by saying something seriously Politically INcorrect... there would be another paragraph....

J/Tharg!

WilderBill
November 3, 2004, 07:28 AM
Aww come on.
They must have seen it coming.
Their candidate has been wearing a long face for as long as I can remember. :D

Tharg
November 3, 2004, 07:31 AM
ROFL - this ain't over yet.... i expect many shinanigans till its all said and done and the supreme court rules a winner... rofl

molonlabe
November 3, 2004, 08:15 AM
What did Theresa say to John this morning?

Why the long face John.

Intune
November 3, 2004, 08:15 AM
We will see how much grace and tact the kerry kamp has by measuring the time until concession. As of this point President Bush has won the popular vote by over 300,000 and wins in Ohio. kerry is pinning his hopes on the provisional and overseas (military :what: ) ballots in Ohio. While there is a mathamatical possibility of kerry eeking out a win with these ballots he would have to be the winner on almost 100% of them. Turn out the lights the party's over. Go home to Terasa... Yikes! I think I just hit upon any sane mans reason to stretch this thing out and stay late at the office!

oneslowgun
November 3, 2004, 08:18 AM
What is funny to me, is how much is being placed on OH, when even if sKerry WON OH, and even ONE of the remaining states, Bush will STILL win.

Remington788
November 3, 2004, 08:39 AM
Bush is ahead in popular vote by 3,000,000. You left a 0 off of the end.:D

Intune
November 3, 2004, 08:44 AM
Oops, thx 788.

From the happy kampers at DU- You are now part of the rebel alliance underground, and perhaps
its time to visit a gun show to take advantage of the second
amendment. I think that the next 4 years will see several political
fringe groups deciding that "talk talk and vote vote" is getting
them nowhere, and direct means are necessary.
Anyone shocked or skeered?

BeLikeTrey
November 3, 2004, 09:14 AM
" Oops, thx 788.

From the happy kampers at DU-
quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
You are now part of the rebel alliance underground, and perhaps
its time to visit a gun show to take advantage of the second
amendment. I think that the next 4 years will see several political
fringe groups deciding that "talk talk and vote vote" is getting
them nowhere, and direct means are necessary.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Anyone shocked or skeered? "

If I knew that it was that easy to make anti's go pro 2nd..... we're halfway there ;)
hehehe
I am giddy today! W !!!!!

ssr
November 3, 2004, 09:26 AM
The problem is they cannot understand that their behavior is exactly the stuff they hate and yell about. It's total projection.

They are the ones that yell, scream, harrass rallly go-ers, slash tires, tear down or spray paint Bush signs, and are generally full of hate. They are an intolerant, mean-spirited, name-calling, hateful bunch.

sigman69
November 3, 2004, 09:34 AM
my friend that lives in Kansas City is worried that there might be some backlash...short of a riot or such...what do you guys think....

WhoKnowsWho
November 3, 2004, 09:50 AM
From the happy kampers at DU-

That's disgusting.

How much whining will I have to hear about this at work from the few pocket of Kerry fans?

Hawkman
November 3, 2004, 10:52 AM
From the happy kampers at DU-
quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
You are now part of the rebel alliance underground, and perhaps
its time to visit a gun show to take advantage of the second
amendment. I think that the next 4 years will see several political
fringe groups deciding that "talk talk and vote vote" is getting
them nowhere, and direct means are necessary.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

They are going to be so shocked when they have to have a background check, fill out a 4473, and still can't get a full-auto AK for $2.99 out the door.:D

No4Mk1
November 3, 2004, 11:32 AM
Go back over to TFL and browse through the dates surrounding the last presidential election, if you doubt it.

Pax, I just did as you suggest, and frankly while I find frustration and anger in the posts of 4 years ago, I don't see the extent of virulent hatred that DU is showing today. I stand to be corrected, but think you are a bit pessimistic in your judgement.

Third_Rail
November 3, 2004, 11:44 AM
I can't wait until the people at DU try to go buy guns.

Afterall, it's "easy" and there aren't any background checks, right??

Yeah, suuuuure.....


Imagine this:

"What do you MEAN I have to wait 7 days?!"
"What do you MEAN I didn't pass the check? IT WAS JUST A LITTLE POT!"

etc.

:D

Ktulu
November 3, 2004, 11:47 AM
They are the ones that yell, scream, harrass rallly go-ers, slash tires, tear down or spray paint Bush signs, and are generally full of hate. They are an intolerant, mean-spirited, name-calling, hateful bunch.

But they're hating us for our own good. Don't you understand? Huh? Maybe if I slash your tires you'll get it? :rolleyes:

Black Snowman
November 3, 2004, 12:26 PM
But they're hating us for our own good. You have it wrong. You think far to small. They hate for the good of the human race Comrade! Only when they've crushed all opposition to their rule under an iron fist will the Motherland and it's remaining people be saved!

RandyB
November 3, 2004, 02:48 PM
Most of the folks here at my office that voted for Kerry are dealing with it ok and not giving me a hard time (I'm the stand alone non-Democrat, the rest stay quiet). I have heard the following said in the last two days:

"We need to kill those Republicans."
"Bush will be assassinated before his term is up."
"He never was really president of the US"
"Bush never finished anything in his life"
"All Repubicans are either rich and/or stupid."
"In four more years the country will cease to exist"
"Bush is s dictator."
"The middle class will cease to exist"

and it goes on and on and on........

Meanwhile I am smiling on the inside.:D :neener:

Destructo6
November 3, 2004, 03:15 PM
Pax, was TFL even around in 1996 (last election a Dem became president)? I thought it was started in about 1998.

John Hicks
November 3, 2004, 03:38 PM
I'm taking THR at work. We are split about 60/40 to the good guys. I got into a lot of intelligent conversation with the liberals here before the election and the mood is pretty good overall. No gloating, smirks, or insults.

The thing to remember about liberals verus conservatives is that we argue with logic, they argue with emotion. Emotion is what leads to the outbursts we are seeing on DU (well, I can't see it, I'm taking your all's word for it) :)

The emotional aspect is what makes the arguments difficult and is why, when they lose, they resort to childish means, while when we lose, we look for a different strategy.

Thankfully my coworkers are all intelligent moderates. This storm will pass, they are just venting.

jh

oh, and if you see anyonee there who is (in the same post) advocating harming the prez -- forward the link to the Secret Service, I'm sure they will appreciate the tip :D

Cool Hand Luke 22:36
November 3, 2004, 03:47 PM
DU is in absolute hair-pulling, bug-eyed, hysterical fits! I would love to read more of thier posts but I don't want to wake my wife up with my laughing.

The great thing about supposedly unschooled Presidents like Reagan and Bush II is their uncanny ability to reduce the Liberal-leftist elitists to absolute gibbering incoherant rage.

:D

Dan Rather, Peter Jennings, etc. would all refer to Bush II as " President shrub, the smirking chimp" if they thought they could get away with it.

Ktulu
November 3, 2004, 03:52 PM
You have it wrong. You think far to small.

OH NO! I'd make a terrible communist, or socialist, or even a democrat.

Cool Hand Luke 22:36
November 3, 2004, 03:54 PM
They are going to be so shocked when they have to have a background check, fill out a 4473, and still can't get a full-auto AK for $2.99 out the door.

Liberal at gun show table: "which kind of machine gun AK should I get for spray firing from the hip or bringing down airplanes?"

:D

RobW
November 3, 2004, 03:54 PM
They are an intolerant, mean-spirited, name-calling, hateful bunch.
In one word, they are Stalinists.

pax
November 3, 2004, 04:49 PM
No4Mk1 ~

Remember that TFL is far more moderated against stupidly emotional outbursts than DU ever has been or will be. And remember that the place was shut down for awhile during the worst of the storm.

Destructo66 ~

I was referring to the up-in-the-air-for-weeks election of 2000.

Although, if you wanted to go further back, even without an election season, you could run a search on "Klinton" or "Clintoon" and see how calm and rational and non-emotional our side sounded when their side was in office.

pax

Heaven have mercy on us all -- Presbyterians and Pagans alike -- for we are all somehow dreadfully cracked about the head, and sadly need mending. – Herman Melville

morganm01
November 3, 2004, 07:17 PM
Just up the road from me a fellow had a huge 6"x8" Bush '04 sign that was vandalized last night. HE put a sign over it that says..."vandalized by loser Kerry supporters"

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