[makdaddy03]

Mine was a used Kimber Compact II. That had to be the worst $600 ever spent. Thank God for Springfield.:)

[alamo]

Seecamp, believe it or not. It was in the first 150 rounds though.

[Schuey2002]

I haven't had a "lemon" yet...:p Maybe I need to purchase a Lorcin..:D

[Sactown]

Mine was a Kimber Polymer Stainless. Wouldn't go through a mag without locking back with rounds still in magazine. Called Kimber, they replaced the slide lock and the problem only occurs now when the gun is really really dirty.

[45R]

XD40.....1 Stove Pipe and 1 FTF during break in process. Good to go now. :)

Ruger MkII. Lots of stove pipes when dirty. I have over 5K rounds through the little guy. Runs best when somewhat clean!

[Tamara]

Weirdest?

I had a (don't laugh) Hi-Point 9mm Compact that wouldn't feed ball to save its life, but actually ran okay with 124gr and lighter JHPs. I think the problem was an overlong feed ramp.

[Mike Irwin]

Just about anything I ever handled by AMT.

[Skunkabilly]

Kimber Custom Stainless Target II. More than all my 8 or so other guns combined.

[10-Ring]

A little Beretta 22lr. That thing jammed ALL THE TIME!

[Sean Smith]

Para-Ordinance P14-45. The only outright lemon I've ever owned... wouldn't work with anything, no matter what. I think about 30 critical dimensions on that thing were way out of spec. Sold it for scrap parts to somebody that didn't mind that it didn't work.

[Tamara]

We used to have a theory that ParaOrd saved all their junk parts over the course of the week and built them into guns on Friday. Paras generally work, but when they make a lemon, it is usually well and truly screwed up. ;)

[jsalcedo]

Anything by lorcin, davis, bryco or jennings.
The lifespan and break in period on these guns overlap by about 50 rounds.


Here is my impression of a Davis 380

Click, rack, click bang rack, shake, pull out mag, shake, rack
rack hold mag in with weak hand, click, rack, bang, SPROING,
crack, clink, :cuss: :cuss: :banghead: :confused:

[Dave Markowitz]

My biggest jammer was a CZ-85. It got traded off towards a 182-series Mini-14.

[Kruzr]

Springfiled Armory Ultra-Compact V10. Complete POS. SA had it nearly 6 weeks after it was a week old and still couldn't fix it and didn't offer to replace it. Did a reliabiltiy job and sold it.

[gbelleh]

Never had a true lemon, but the guns that have jammed the most for me are:

Glock 36
Walther P99

Both seem to have overcome their initial problems, hopefully.

It's funny that no gun that I've paid $209 or less for has ever jammed, ever.

[Soap]

My current Springfield was a jam-o-matic until I got it fixed. Turns out that Springfield didn't make the breech face large enough...oops :rolleyes:

[Watch-Six]

Two different AMT Backups. Yuck. I wanted one that worked so badly I got talked into buying a second one. The most suprising lemon was a brand new Colt Officers ACP 45. It jammed hand feeding the first round of hard ball and then went down hill from there. What a dog. Watch-Six

[TooTech]

Made in America Walther TPH in .22.

Had it less than a month and took a bath trading it away. Couldn't bring myself to fib when asked if it was reliable.

[mparris71]

Personally a Ruger MII 22/45. Called ruger they send a new bolt, hasn't jammed since.
Dad and Brother both bought baby desert eagles in .45 ACP. Both are complete lemons.

[firestar]

Taurus PT-22
Jennings J-22

If we were talking rifles also then the Remington Nylon 77 was pretty bad. It was accurate but it was a jam-o-matic. I can't believe that people are collecting these things.:neener:

[makdaddy03]

Tamara had a Hi Point?:eek:

[SouthpawShootr]

Golan .40 whatevertheheckitwas. Didn't really expect much out of this gun, I paid $250 for it and 4 magazines. It jammed about every other magazine. I'll eventually get a gunsmith to polish and throat (conservative), but I don't feel like dumping much more into this.

[Navy joe]

Chuck Daly 1911 clone. Believe at your own risk people who say they have gotten better. JUNK GUN!!!!

[George Hill]

Springfield 1911A1 "Loaded Model". First 5000 rounds it was great. Then all the sudden it was ALWAYS jamming. Sent it in and it came back great for about 500 rounds then all the sudden it was jamming all the time again.

[Blackhawk]

Some surprising answers...!

Tamara, got pics of your Hi-Point?

[Tamara]

Key word in my post was "had". As in, like, nine years ago... ;)

[P12]

Biggest POS I have ever held in my hand! Bar none!

It had to be babied to load. Had to pull the slide back and then manually move it forward to load. If you just racked the slide it would jamb EVERY TIME. It wouldn't shoot a full mag without jambing at least twice when I first bought it. I discovered the crimp at the top of the the mag was barbed. Polished it out and then it would shoot a full mag without jambing unless the dust was blowing.

Still couldn't load the dang thing without it screwing up.

Traded it off for a Taurus 85 and a Llama Mircromax.

[makdaddy03]

Tamara, Im just kidding with ya.:)

[Scott13]

AMT Backup 22 lr :barf: The gun Jammed on average 3 times per magazine .

[isaidme]

My friends Beretta 92 :scrutiny:

[stans]

Auto Ordnance 1911, worst $250 I ever spent!

[Ian11]

I know it seems impossible but for me it was a brand new H&K USP/C in 9mm. The thing jammed with every mag and threw brass right in my face. Even after I got it back the problem was less pronounced but not up to reasonable standards. But, if the price of USP's went down I wouldn't hesitate to buy another one. Every company, including my faves Glock and Sig do send out a lemon now and then.

[Joe Demko]

Norinco's copy of the Tokagypt. Began self-destructing from the first shot. In less than one box of ammo, it reached the point of jamming so badly that tools were needed to clear it on every shot.

[MCNETT]

I would have to say that it was a Colt 1911A1 that Ihad about 10years ago. It would stave off the jams for two or three clips with ball ammo, but put a JHP in the clip and you a had an instant FTF drill!
-Mike

[Sean Smith]

We used to have a theory that ParaOrd saved all their junk parts over the course of the week and built them into guns on Friday. Paras generally work, but when they make a lemon, it is usually well and truly screwed up.

The scary thing is, you might be on to something there. Some people convert them to 10mm Auto and shoot hot loads out of them all day long with no problems. Meanwhile, one gun magazine review (not famously critical, those) had to admit that the frame WARPED (!!!) on theirs during the gun test.

:what:

Naturally, they still recommended the gun. :barf:

[Stevie-Ray]

AMT Govt model 1911A1. Nice features, and quite accurate, but never dependable. Complained to AMT, they wanted it shipped back to them and they'd make it right. Got it back and it was...................better. That wasn't good enough. I wanted it to be totally dependable. Sold it in favor of my beloved Colt after growing tired of the fight.

[Swamp Yankee]

Without a doubt the Walther P22 was a true jam-o-matic.
Solved the problem by giving it a case of the swap towards an Eagle Arms AR10A4.
Take Care

[Hkmp5sd]

Grendel P-10.

[trapguy]

I guess this is one place the ruger p series doesn't have anybody saying bad things about it.

[Kahr carrier]

Amt Hardballer 45 Jammomatic and the rear sight fell off after a magazine full of ammo.:(

[JY-]

The biggest POS I had the displeasure of owning was the Taurus PT-111 9mm Millenium. Major problems FTF, FTE, stovepipes, jam jam jam jam.
The second one was a Colt Pony Pocketlite .380. Stovepipes and jams. Local Smith and factory still couldn't fix it. :banghead:

[fedlaw]

Taurus PT-22: Never made it through one whole magazine without a FTF. Tried lots of different ammo before trading it on a Kel-Tec P32.

[Monkeyleg]

Up until just a few years ago, I was a revolver guy, so I don't have a lot of experience with auto's.

That said, a PPK/S I had years back had to be the worst. Even a trip to the factory didn't cure it.

[sanchezero]

My brother bought my mom and AMT Backup in .380 a while back. I'm convinced he's trying to knock her off in a roundabout way ;) .

That thing has literally NEVER fired 2 rounds in a row without some sort of malfunction drill being run. That being said, it also hasn't reached it's breakin point fo 300 rnds or so. Too much work.

:D

[MJRW]

Smith & Wesson Sigma .380.

Not even heavy enough to be used as a club.

[WESHOOT2]

But a few million years ago I bought FOUR Sterlings, both 25 and 22, trying to get one that would function.

Nope.

BTW, after break-in, my PT22 has been flawless with W-W Super-X.

[Stevie-Ray]

Taurus PT-22: Never made it through one whole magazine without a FTF. Tried lots of different ammo before trading it on a Kel-Tec P32. Strange. Mine has been very reliable and I even feed it Yellow Jackets, something Taurus tells you not to.

[COHIBA]

i've owned 7 kimbers from CC to CDP to Elclipse.
every series 2 failed to return completely to battery some of the time. i have had zero problems from any series 1 and i carry one now exclusivly.
but i'm sure the series 2 problems have been worked out since last month, huh?

[Tamara]

Made in America Walther TPH in .22.

Heh. My gunsmith says that stands for Toilet Paper Handgun, so named for its durability (or lack thereof). ;)

(He also calls ParaOrdnance "Painted Ordnance" for the lovely finish on their base level guns...)

[22x9]

The feedramp isn't what you call smooth.

Difficult to get a full mag(30) thru withou a 10 or 15 jams.

[care-less]

10 Ring, watch the way you load that mag. When done , turn it upside down, pull down on spring compression knob, and let the rounds assume the proper point up angle. Insert mag point of round first, guarantee no jams.

[jc2]

Glock 31

[CWL]

Actual jams is with a Paraordnance P13, you have to be very regular with replacing the magazine springs. Then everything works fine.

Actual POS is a Kimber Series II Ultra CDP. Although bad sear, bad safeties, loose parts, and jammed mag release can't be really counted as a "jam".

[Minute_Of_Torso]

Charles Daly Field Grade 1911A1. It would FTE, FTF, and absolutely refused to go back into battery about 75% of the time.

I got rid of it and, the dummy I am, went back and got another one just like it! Never had a FTE, FTF, or failure to go back into battery . . . go figure.

[Trebor]

Jennings J 22 that a friend owned (not me, honest). We knew that you could rely on getting at least three rounds in any mag to fire, but you never knew which three. The first round would always go off, and sometimes two or three in a row would fire, but somewhere along the line it would jam. One time I got a whole mag through it without any problems and the gun's owner and I just looked at each other in disbelief. It was later stolen and the owner is probably better off for it.

[Chapman]

Had a Colt 1991A1 at one time and it couldn't get pass a magazine without a jam. Eventually sold it and bought a Sig P-220 and never looked back.:)

[4thHorseman]

Just a note here, HK's, glock's, Smith's, Colt, and just about every other type of gun maker, but no one has mentioned a Siq.

[RCL]

Auto Ordnance 1911, it would jam at least once, most of the time twice on every magazine. Wouldn't even feed ball. Also tried Wilson mags, no luck. :cuss:

[pinduck]

Everyone one i've ever had where the name begins with Llama.

[timdennis]

Some years back I wanted a mouse gun for the summer. This was back when Seecamps came only in .25 and were just about impossible to get. I read reviews of the little Berettas and and eventually got two 21A models. They jammed on everything and I tried a lot of solutions I heard about or read about I had a friend who had an earlier model 20 which was flawless but I could never seem to find one since they were dropped. One 21A is still in the closet the other long gone.

[Lexter]

POS' owned at one time:

Taurus PT-140 (.40 Millenium Model)

Springfield Ultra Compact V-10 (.45)


Lexter


Good riddence (sp?) of both!!

[Yanus]

Auto Ordnance M1911 in 10mm. The gun would only fire the round in the chamber. I tried different magazines and recoil spring combinations and never could get it to work.

Absolute trash...............

Yanus

[Hazwaste]

I got it from my dad, who got it from a Marine buddy in 1954. Dad had never shot it or cleaned/oiled it. Used to jam on all but the first shot.

Spent some money on a rebuild kit (internal parts only). Cost $35. Sweet shooter now.

[DeltaElite]

HK USP 40.
I have watched them jam in mass for over 8 years at our dept range. Not sure why, since all attempts to fix them by HK proved fruitless. Oh well.
I kept my Glock, since it worked for me.

[panzerfuehrer]

Helwan Brigadier, 9mm.

Worst POS I ever wasted money on. I still have it, because I would have to pay someone to take it.

[cratz2]

Jennings Bryco 380. Honestly a hunk o crap. I actually out some time into it and played with the feed lips and slicked up the front of the follower and polished the ramp. Last time I shot it (with a friend that was looking for a small 380) it only failed to fire twice out of about 100 rounds. Before that, it generally could not make it through a magazine without a failure.

For guns that are generally considered quality guns, I've had two failures ever with a KelTec P32 (I've owned three, two with no failures ever) and two failures with a Springfield Loaded (I've owned about six, five without failures) I also had a Springfield 9mm Loaded pistol that had maybe five failures ever. All from the same magazine. The other magazine and the replacement for the bad one never ever failed so I don't really attribute that to the gun. I also had a early 90s Colt 1991 that wouldn't feed any HP ammo that I tried and probably had 10-15 failures with ball ammo out of 400 rounds. I have another early 90s 1991 that has been excellent and is one of my very favotite pistols of all time.

I have a friend that has two guns, a Ruger 45 and a Hi Point 9mm. The Ruger has had maybe two or three, the Hi Point has never failed. I think it's largely the luck of the draw. I've owned several many pistols and have very very few that were lemons,

[Baron Holbach]

My first autoloader, a Ruger P97DC .45ACP, was problematic: nearly every other magazine had a FTF, FTE, or stovepipe, regardless of the brand of ammo.

[Sven]

CZ Kadet .22 conversion... at least until I'd run 250 rounds through it, after which it became more reliable.

[Gerald McDonald]

After reading this post I have come to the conclusion there are good and bad regardless of money spent. For me it would be a Arcus 93 or 94 (dont remember which) Sent it off to a good smith and he cut me a deal on a reliability package since I had a HiPower in for a major rebuild. Got it back and it would shoot hollow point +P's all day long. Std power ball would be an instant FTF. I sold it with that knowledge shared to someone who wanted a house gun.

Had a Taurus PT111 that was flawless for about 1000 rounds then I got spooked by all of the bad press and traded it off, had a Llama 380 that was hell for reliable, just not accurate. Also have a Sterling 22lr that will shoot reliably only with mini mags and 5 rounds in the mag. Any thing else jams.

Gerald

[bad_dad_brad]

Before I broke her in, my Kahr MK9. After that AOK, except for certain long nose bullets. Silvertips work best.

[Gary H]

Keltec P-32

Sent it back for polish and chrome. Haven't shot it in over a year, or two..since it came back. It's somewhere in the safe..somewhere.

[Ian11]

4th Horseman,

In all fairness; I was at the range today and I saw a guy with a SIG P228 with a dreaded double feed. Don't know what loads he was using or if he takes care of his gun.

I've shot @ 6000 thousand jam-free rounds through various SIG's (P229,P220, P228, and P226) in my life so far and just put another 100 (50 hollowpoints/50 FMJ) in my P226 9mm today. Flawless.:evil:

[stevelyn]

Mine was...is a Llama Minimax. Never really a feed or jamming problem as much as it was an ejection problem. I shoot left handed and when I first bought it (on sale at pet gundealer for $300 new) I didn't get a chance to shoot it much. When I finally started taking it out and shooting it like all new pistols, I would get the occasional FTF, or a stovepipe.
No .... the most aggravating problem was ejection. I was constantly getting beaned on the top of the head, my forehead, and face with spent brass. Of course being left-handed only exacerbated the problem. It got so bad that when I squeezed the trigger I would duck my head to dodge brass I could see flying toward me in slo-mo or arcing down on the top of my head. A typical firing session would be BANG BANG (DUCK) TINK TINK. Talk about excessive flinch! The problem finally solved itsself after about 500-800 rounds and a change of springs, it's very reliable now. I haven't been hit with brass for about three years now.

[axeman_g]

A Charter Arms .22 semi, I cant remember the model, but it was Mauser brommhandle style handgun. I actually really liked it and would like to find another. It was a fun plinker, but it would jam at the slightest hint of dirt.

Anybody have one???? Want to sell it?