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Atticus
November 4, 2004, 02:22 PM
"One robber tried to keep the woman in the kitchen but she reached her alarm system which alerted the police.
Officers say the robbers stole hundreds of pounds in cash and bank cards and are appealing for any witnesses to contact CID at Stratford."

I take it that the poice did not arrive in time to witness the event



http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/coventry_warwickshire/3983411.stm

Woman robbed in home by three men

Police are hunting for three men who burst into the home of an 82-year-old pensioner and stole cash and cards.
The woman heard loud knocking and her doorbell pressed continuously on Wednesday evening at her home in Verney Close in Lighthorne, Warwickshire.

She opened the door with the security chain on but the gang forced their way in and searched the house.

One robber tried to keep the woman in the kitchen but she reached her alarm system which alerted the police.

Officers say the robbers stole hundreds of pounds in cash and bank cards and are appealing for any witnesses to contact CID at Stratford.

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Question for our British friends - What is up with these attacks on firefighters?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/south_east/3752496.stm

Cameras to foil fire crew attacks


Firefighters are coming under more attacks while on duty
Fire crews in south Wales are planning to install cameras on their vehicles to help combat increasing violence from gangs.
It follows a series of attacks on firefighters by groups of youths.

The latest were on Sunday in the south Wales valleys, when stones were thrown at a crew in Aberfan, and about 50 youths hurled builders' materials at another crew in Gilfach Goch.

Fire chiefs say blazes are often begun deliberately to lure crews to an area.


Violence against firefighters has become a major concern for fire service chiefs.

On Sunday, fire crews dealing with a fire involving rubber matting at the rear of Ynys Owen Nursery School in Aberfan had stones thrown at them by a group of youths.

There is definite evidence that some of these attacks are planned

Roger Price, South Wales Fire Service

Later on, another crew came under attack from a group of about 50 young people as they tackled two rubbish fires in the Hendreforgan area of Gilfach Goch.

South Wales Fire Service fears that more incidents are likely as the schools break up for half-term and bonfire night approaches.

In a trial, cameras are being installed on engines to film any attacks the crews come under while on call-outs.

Cameras have already been installed onto appliances in other brigades to deter gangs.

Roger Price, assistant divisional commander for South Wales Fire Service, said it was part of efforts to combat the growing problem of violence.

"It is to try and protect the fire crews - we hope it will deter these individuals who are willing to carry out these attacks," he said.


Recordings could be used to help police prosecute any individuals caught throwing missiles at the crews.

"There is definite evidence that some of these attacks are planned," he said.

Emergency treatment

"Quite often these fires have been started to lure fire crews into that area. It can occur any time and any place throughout south Wales.

"What concerns me is that there is the potential for death or serious injury from these attacks.

"They are throwing concrete bricks and it is quite scary," he added.


Some fire crews covering south Wales are subjected to almost daily attacks from gangs of youths.

Fire chiefs say the problem is becoming more violent and prolific and reports of violence against crews are on the increase.

Last October, a firefighter had to have emergency treatment after he was hit on the head by a brick thrown by a gang of youths.

The incident happened as a four-man crew tried to extinguish a rubbish fire in Trelewis near Merthyr Tydfil.

Youths stoned the fire engine before targeting the firefighters - hitting one of them on the head with a brick with such force that it split his helmet.

Firefighter Sabrina Cohen from Cross Keys is currently on an international fact-finding mission on how to deal with violence against fire crews, and her findings will be used by the brigade.

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Zrex
November 4, 2004, 02:25 PM
Why would anyone want to attack a firefighter?!

Geez. If I had to come up with a list of professions to NOT attack, Firefighter would be right up there at the top....

buzz_knox
November 4, 2004, 03:59 PM
It's common for firefighters to be engaged when entering high crime areas. The subhumans who run them like to kill, and firefighters make easy targets.

As for firefighters being the last people you'd expect to be killed, why? The idiots who do this destroy their own communities (literally) so why should they care about someone trying to save it?

El Tejon
November 4, 2004, 04:08 PM
It happens to firefighters in Detroit and Chicago as well.

When I was serving time in Chicago, used to hear about trucks getting shot or brickabrack being tossed out of the buildings at the firefighters below.

R.H. Lee
November 4, 2004, 04:14 PM
Is this crime, or terrorism? Who are these criminals, immigrants or native British? Inquiring minds want to know.

agricola
November 4, 2004, 04:36 PM
Riley,

Sadly, idiocy knows no nationality. This has been going on for ages in various council estates, and probably will continue, up until the point where the scum manage to hold off the firefighters long enough for some family to get burned to death. Hopefully then the remainder of the estate will take up the stones and remind the scum what it feels like to have rocks thrown at their heads.

This idiocy isnt unique to this btw - a train operating company in London had to redesign trains because some idiots started "train surfing", which entailed jumping onto slow moving trains and hanging onto the roof, or the side, for as long as possible (anyone who has taken a suburban train in London will realise the idiocy of this).

A steady stream of cripples and bodies found in more than one piece did nothing to dissuade them, so it was decided to make it impossible to hold on, in the hope that the fate of the first few who tried it would dissuade the rest. Amazingly enough, disabled ex-surfers tried to sue what was then British Rail for damages incurred from their activities, needless to say short shrift was given:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/298984.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/3695698.stm

Zrex,

Why would anyone want to attack an ambulanceman? or a nurse? Some people are just scum. Though I should point out that the last person I saw assault a nurse - he was at hospital to have a week-old dressing changed after being arrested - ended up with a lot more pain than he managed to inflict, as nurses generally have a much better idea of what hurts, and what really hurts.
:D :D :D :D :D :D

Chipperman
November 4, 2004, 04:40 PM
This is the first I've ever heard of people attacking Firefighters. It is, to put it mildly, DISTURBING.

"As for firefighters being the last people you'd expect to be killed, why? The idiots who do this destroy their own communities (literally) so why should they care about someone trying to save it?"

Point taken, but it still doesn't make any sense to me. I can understand hostility toward Police, who might arrest them. Firefighters are not trying to arrest anyone, they are just trying to minimize damage and casualties.

:( :confused: :fire:

El Tejon
November 4, 2004, 04:40 PM
Ag, British nurses take no guff, especially if they have been in the Royal Navy!:uhoh:

agricola
November 4, 2004, 04:56 PM
El Tejon,

this one didnt look old enough, but after he hit her she took this dressing, crusty with blood and stuck to the skin, faster than i have ever seen any dressing removed, and with only a few drops of water to loosen it.

needless to say there was some cursin', as you all would say

:D :D

Jeff Timm
November 4, 2004, 05:05 PM
It happened in Cleveland, Ohio back in the 1960s.

Hey, burn the place down and the stupid tax payer will buy you a free house. Why not. If you kill a few whities too, even better.

Geoff
Who notes the Firemen were fired upon, weapons unspecified.

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