SKS, can I get it down to 7lbs?


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twoblink
November 6, 2004, 05:04 AM
<7lbs, and 3MOA, SKS.. possible?

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natedog
November 6, 2004, 05:08 AM
Nope. All the weight is in the (long, millled) reciever, gas tube, etc.

Harve Curry
November 6, 2004, 11:28 PM
I've had 4 SKS's and all shot 3 shot groups into 1.25" to 2" groups at 100 yards from a sandbagged rest, with the chinese ball ammo.Ak's never did that for me.
I put a Choate brand dragunov style stock on my Russian made rifle, it makes it more comfortable and lighter, but I don't know how light. I also put a Williams reciever peep sight on it and the 20 round fixed magazine.

Gewehr98
November 7, 2004, 12:08 AM
Then I added a scope. With some tweaking, it tightened up to 1 MOA. (No, that's not a typo, I really mean 1 Minute Of Angle) Here's the thread that talks about it:

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=107782

http://mauser98.com/targetsks1.jpg

http://mauser98.com/targetsks2.jpg

Ohen Cepel
November 7, 2004, 12:25 AM
Think it would be cost prohibitive to get it to 7lbs. (I'm thinking drastic fluting/metal removing and that isn't cheap)

However, an aftermarket stock might help some.

Or, if you're a scope guy you could safe a bit by removing the sites. Not much, but it will help.

Andrew Wyatt
November 7, 2004, 01:18 AM
I think you could get it down to 7.5 pounds, maybe.

lighter stock, gas tube without upper handguard, maybe turn the barrel down.

twoblink
November 7, 2004, 09:31 AM
Gewehr98,

do you happen to have a scale??
Also, what brand stock is that?

I had an SKS before, although I thought the Choate stock was lighter, and stiffer, it wasn't by that much..

twoblink
November 7, 2004, 09:35 AM
Forgot to ask..

New Synthetic stock, chop the barrel to 18", and maybe no handguard. Would that get me to 7lbs?

joab
November 7, 2004, 09:59 AM
Gewehr98
I want to replace my grenade launcher with an integrated brake like your's. Help me out. Where do I go?

rbernie
November 7, 2004, 11:07 AM
New Synthetic stock, chop the barrel to 18", and maybe no handguard. Would that get me to 7lbs? Eh - it might. You'd certainly be under 8 pounds. But heaven help you if you're starting with a Yugo instead of a Norinco or Russian.

Come to think of it, I actually suspect that my Ramline synth stock is no lighter than the wood stock. The wood stock, especially the teak or bitch on the Yugos, is really pretty light. I dunno how much, if any, weight savings you'd get out of a synthetic stock. I suspect that you're weight savings would solely be realized by removing the hunk-o-steel at the end of the barrel.

twoblink
November 7, 2004, 12:26 PM
The Choate claims to be 4x stronger than the wood. Don't know if that's true..

But chopping the barrel reduces the most weight.. Unless I can get the bolt to become lighter..

Also, maybe a trigger job..

Gewehr98
November 7, 2004, 02:08 PM
If you're starting with a Yugo SKS, that's a considerably heavier gun than the Norinco I started with. Yugos have thicker barrel contours all the way back to the receiver, then they have all those appliances hanging off the front of the barrel and gas block. No fun, plus you're removing the gun from C&R eligibility as soon as you start removing things.

For weight savings on my Norinco, I got rid of my front sight/bayo lug sleeve assembly, gas tube and handguard, and original Chinese Oingo-Boingo wood stock. I then replaced the missing parts with that minimalist finned gas tube, small-diameter muzzle brake, 5-round zytel magazine, and a Ram-Line synthetic stock. I could have saved more weight by using an aluminum scope, and skipping the brass deflector, but the idea was to make this a sub-MOA gun first, lightweight next. A lightweight HoloSight or C-More would save in the optics department, too. Regardless, the gun is useless without some form of optics, since I cleaned up everything forward of the gas block. Once I figure out a better way to attach that brass deflector, I'll grind off the rear sight assembly, contouring it better while still leaving the gas tube latch mechanism intact.

I've never found another muzzle brake like the one I put on my gun. It's had a place in my parts drawer for many years, ever since I picked it up at a gun show long ago. A machinist with a lathe and mill could probably crank one or two out in short order. ;)

Somewhere in the garage I've got a Zebco fish scale. I'll have to dig it out and hang the Bubba98 Target SKS on it, and see what it weighs.

First Person Shooter
November 7, 2004, 02:35 PM
Easy, start with a non milled AK variant. The AKM weighs in at 6.92 pounds.

Gewehr98
November 7, 2004, 03:01 PM
Somebody starts a thread asking about an SKS, and somebody else throws an AK in there for good measure. Good one! :scrutiny:

He asked, specifically, about lightening an SKS. That would mean he didn't ask about the weight of, or his desire to purchase, an AK. :rolleyes:

Remind me to start a thread about a S&W revolver, and see how long it takes before somebody throws in a Colt for good measure...

Andrew Wyatt
November 7, 2004, 04:36 PM
why don't you get a glock? they weigh 30 ounces. ;)

natedog
November 7, 2004, 04:45 PM
Berettas and 1911s weigh 35 oz and 42 oz, too! :p

First Person Shooter
November 7, 2004, 04:45 PM
Somebody starts a thread asking about an SKS, and somebody else throws an AK in there for good measure. Good one! :scrutiny:



It was meant as a joke GEEZ!!

Gewehr98
November 7, 2004, 05:41 PM
Because I saw the smiley or the "j/k" in that post.

Truthfully, if you want rifle-cartridge power in a small package, an American Derringer in .45-70 would weigh a lot less, too. It's those practice sessions at the indoor range that would be the real problem, though. All the targets lighting off, and the carpal tunnel syndrome...

twoblink
November 7, 2004, 09:17 PM
OK OK, how did we get from THERE, to HERE..

Twoblink needed a ranch rifle.

Twoblink concluded that a mini 30 would probably fit the requirements the best.

People :cuss: :cuss: about if you are going to get a mini 30, might as well get an SKS (which twoblink sold because it was about 12MOA and 9.5lbs)

For Ranchin', twoblink prefers 7.62x39 vs .223, more short range umph within the 150 yards.

Twoblink's gf is 5'2", when she's not slouching..

So, since all this grock and beretta talk has made me start referring to myself in 3rd person, you all should be ashamed!!

The Yugo is about 9.3-9.5lbs to start, and the Norinco is about 8.5-8.9lbs to start. It seems the weight variants are pretty big, depending on what crude you've got hanging on your gun.

First Person Shooter
November 8, 2004, 01:19 AM
As an olive branch to smooth your ruffled feathers ( or should I say his ruffled feathes since your are talking about yourself in the third person :) ) This is a site for a wide variety of SKS parts and accessories.

SKS parts (http://www.simonov.net/gear.htm)

To reduce weight....keep it simple. A lightweight stock, resist the urge to add optics.

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