[joebogey]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,137837,00.html

NEW YORK — A 25-year-old university worker from Georgia shot and killed himself at ground zero (search) Saturday morning, authorities said.

The man, Andrew Veal (search), of Athens, Ga., was found atop the structure housing the 1 and 9 subway lines after a hotel worker spotted what he believed was somebody sleeping inside the site around 8 a.m., said Steve Coleman, a spokesman for the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey. A shotgun was found near the body, Coleman said. No suicide note was found, he said.

Veal apparently was distraught over President Bush's (search) re-election, Newsday reported Saturday on its Web site edition, citing an unnamed police source. The newspaper also said the man was a registered Democrat who opposed the war in Iraq.

Coleman said he could not confirm Newsday's account.

Police were investigating how Veal entered the former World Trade Center (search) site, which is protected by high fences and owned by the Port Authority.

Veal worked in a computer lab at the University of Georgia and was planning to marry, friends said Saturday.

[Sindawe]

The elections may have been this fellow's catalyst, but I wager the isses had been building for awhile.

Sad, but he made his choice. We all still have Free Will.

[Cortland]

:eek:

A tragedy to be sure, but I can't say I didn't see something like this coming. Cleary this fellow must have had other problems, but the Dems do have far too much emotional investment in their ideology.

[jefnvk]

A permenant solution to a four year problem. I know it's bad, but I can't help to think that if that's all it took to kill him, its probably better off he's gone.

[Buck Snort]

A lot of Democraps are also checking into the Canadian immigration web sight! Wow, wouldn't it be great if a whole bunch of them just up and went across the border? They'd fit right in with the socialist government there.

[deputy tom]

Sorry to sound so calloused,but if he was really a Dem., 1.what was he doing with a gun,2.why was he breaking the law just having said gun in NYC,3.what was the signifigance of offing himself at the site he chose?I really think there must be a rule established barring nut cases from voting.tom. :confused:

[Wildalaska]

A democratic admisnistration dedicated to truth and justice as opposed to the fascist junta we have would have saved this boys life by imposiing strict gun control.

Its far to easy to get a gun in NYC :cuss:

WildheadshrunkAlaska

[boofus]

You are the weakest link. Good bye.

[CB900F]

Fella's;

Contrary to popular opinion, it's not illegal to have a gun in New York City. According to the report, a shotgun was found near the body. I know of no across-the-board prohibition of long guns in NYC.

There are Democrats who do own firearms & do support the shooting sports. Admittedly, they do seem to be rather 'thin on the ground' these days. Or maybe most of them just woke up, smelled the coffee, and have become Republicans, not sure on that one.

But, stupid is as stupid does.

900F

[Jeff Timm]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,137837,00.html

NEW YORK — A 25-year-old university worker from Georgia shot and killed himself at ground zero (search) Saturday morning, authorities said.

Veal worked in a computer lab at the University of Georgia and was planning to marry, friends said Saturday.

QUICK!! Call CSI-NY! This sounds like murder most foul! Obviously he failed to hack enough fake votes for Comrade Kerry to win the election, and was given the usual reward for failing the Glorious Progressive Perfection! Anybody want to bet on a few other "examples" being made around the country?

Geoff
Who has been watching too much CSI with his wife. 2005-6 TV season, CSI-Hollywood, CSI-Boston, CSI-Washington DC and that's just Tuesday night! :what:

[joebogey]

This ol boy had more problems than losing the election.
And then Jeff may be right, he may have had a little help.
Twill be interesting to find out more deatils on the case.

[chetth]

The tone of this thread does not seem to be as high as the name of this forum would suggest. :(

I do suspect that that this was an unstable individual who was pushed over his limit by the election, but I also believe that if Kerry had won, there would be a least the same number of conservatives pushed over their edge.

I can't figure out if Bush supporters would be moving to the conservative equivalent of Canada.

[taliv]

well... despite the ebb and flow of gun laws over the past century, this does give some hope for the long term.

since when liberals go insane, they shoot themselves, and when conservatives go insane they shoot other people, I think natural selection is definitely working in our favor

[GSB]

I can't figure out if Bush supporters would be moving to the conservative equivalent of Canada.

Where would that be?

[4v50 Gary]

Member Chetth is quite right. This thread is going on the low road and we should not revel in the death of another. We would be wise to heed the advice of our First President, George Washington: Shew not yourself glad at the Misfortune of another though he were your enemy.

[cxm]

I can't see the guy is a loss...

One less democRAT voter and one less dangerous wacko as well....

Darwin is still right sometimes

/r

Chuck

[jem375]

If only Kennedy,Schumer, Boxer, Feinstein, and Sarah Brady would follow in his footsteps............. :)

[hillbilly]

Chetth wrote:

"I do suspect that that this was an unstable individual who was pushed over his limit by the election, but I also believe that if Kerry had won, there would be a least the same number of conservatives pushed over their edge."

I appreciate the sentiment, Chetth, but I think you have completely misread conservatives.

I would argue that sucide would be the soution of lots more navel-gazing liberals than of conservatives.

While liberals might respond to political defeat by shooting themselves, I would argue that most conservatives (or even libertarians, for that matter) would not shoot themselves in this situation.

Instead of shooting themselves, conservatives and libertarians would have busied themselves buying more ammo and guns preparing for the eventualilty that they might have to shoot more liberals or their enforcers in the future.

hillbilly

[Guy B. Meredith]

chetth,

I agree about the tone, but disagree with the idea that conservatives would react the same. The most extremely upset might go up to Idaho, form a militia and wait for the liberal jack booted thugs to come to their door. For the most part the next day for Conservatives and moderates is just another day with the usual complaining. Witness that most survived eight years of Clinton without losing it.

Common wisdom is that Liberals work from emotion and conservatives from fact. Sometimes the Liberals just get too much caffeine in their latte. (Yes, I drink lattes, but can handle my drinks.) Maybe recent coffee prices have led to bad drugs, er, caffeine in the drink.

Guy B. Meredith

[Standing Wolf]

A needlessly wasted life is a needlessly wasted life whether it belonged to a Libertarian or a socialist parasite.

[schromf]

The most extremely upset might go up to Idaho,

We exported them to California, the Aryans are now in Esondito CA. You can keep them we don't want them and please keep the rest of the Cali fruits and nuts out of our state.

[Guy B. Meredith]

schromf,

My best friend lives in Boise. I just recently woke up to the fact that he is a bit more liberal than even he thought. He is going to be disappointed that Escondido is going to be getting the limelight after years of his grousing about the Idaho conservatives.

[schromf]

My best friend lives in Boise.

Considering Idaho was one of the "MOST" Bush supporting states in the union, his choice of residence is odd at least.

Idaho, Wyoming and Utah are all about 70% support states for Bush.

[Malone LaVeigh]

Common wisdom is that Liberals work from emotion and conservatives from fact.
Thanks. I needed a good laugh.

[deputy tom]

Fella's;

a shotgun was found near the body. I know of no across-the-board prohibition of long guns in NYC.

Sorry,didn't see the "shotgun" part. :uhoh:


There are Democrats who do own firearms & do support the shooting sports.
I think you're wrong on this one. :(

But, stupid is as stupid does.

Yes,you are correct on this point. :cool:

900F



I think if there was a gun owning democrat sportsman,not a closet gun owner like so many of the big name dems are,they would switch parties asap.Just my 2 cents.tom.

[Harry Tuttle]

how did he get a loaded shotgun in NYC?

[ceetee]

Being a Democrat does not automatically make one opposed to guns.

Believing in gun control (or gun eradication, however far you wish to take it) would tend to align you with the Democratic Party, out of sheer lack of other choices.

Being so unbalanced; so co-dependant on something so undependable as a political party that you would shoot yourself over a lost election doesn't make you a democRAT or a DemoCRAP... it's just sad.

On a side note, that rat/crap thing is one of the main things that has turned me away from considering ever voting for a Republican candidate. It seems that the Republicans have much more drive when it comes to heaping invective on their opponents than when it comes to improving the lot of their fellow Americans.

Just my opinion, not backed by any political party.

[Ryan in the House]

The hardcore leftists, for four years, had been packing their minds with anti-Bush propaganda; they had developed hatred for the Republican party, so much so, that we found them ASSAULTING Bush supporters at the RNC in New York. For years, their entire platform was "Anybody but Bush!"

When Bush is elected, it puts everything they ever knew the past four years to a crashing halt... the reality is instantly jammed into their brain. Some of them can't take it.

Don't believe me? Just look at this sickening piece of crap:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=1321959&mesg_id=1321959&page=

If you don't want to go there and read all the comments, the poll asks this:

What is more depressing: 9/11/01 or 11/3/04?

Poll result (244 votes)
9/11/01 (66 votes, 27%) Vote
11/03/04 (178 votes, 73%) Vote

Some media has picked up on the thread:
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/11/6/111215.shtml
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?Page=%5CNation%5Carchive%5C200411%5CNAT20041105a.html

[Texian Pistolero]

at the risk of sounding callous,

it sounds like in the plus column for the gene pool.

If there be a bereft female left behind,

please provide name, address, and telephone number.

I am willing to do pro bono work,

and will step up to the plate to provide my DNA,

and mentoring touch.

It's the least I can do.

[The_Antibubba]

I wonde how soon it will take for an easy access to firearms to be blamed? :rolleyes:

[hso]

Suicide is about depression and hopelessness. In most cases depression and hopelessness come from a life full of problems not just one problem, but for the very immature and inexperienced a single event can be behind it. Look at the teens that kill themselves after some "great love" falls apart. I doubt this fellow was just upset over the election and had a raft of other problems that he couldn't see any solution for. Since there was no dramatic note left behind claiming Bush was TEOTWAWKI I'd suspect there's a very sad story behind it all.

All for all of the petty low road DU-like spew that's come out in this thread remember that Zell Miller is a Democrat and that the difference between the Democratic candidate and the Republican sitting in the Whitehouse was a measly 3%, a small simple majority. Boys thats a win by a field goal, not a decisive victory so I wouldn't do too much chest thumping.

[Satch]

Thats really to bad,and a lot of the blame for this can be laid at the feet of Moore and Soros and the propaganda they and their organizations put out about the President and his administration.

[Gary H]

Malone:

Thanks. I needed a good laugh.

Hey, that was a good response. It addressed the question perfectly. I love dry humor.

[JohnBT]

"It seems that the Republicans have much more drive when it comes to heaping invective on their opponents than when it comes to improving the lot of their fellow Americans."

What can I say? If I told you how wrong you were would you believe me?

John

[Justin]

Duplicate thread.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=110113