Buffalo Bore Ammo in Smith & Wesson


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Marshall
November 9, 2004, 06:04 PM
I sent the following e-mail message to Buffalo Bore and got the following reply. I figured some may like to know this information. Thoughts?

""I have a S&W Model 25-13 Mountain Gun in .45 Colt. Are your .45 load safe to use in this gun? Will they stretch the gun if so?

Thank you,""



The only 45 colt load we make that you should fire through your Mt. gun is item 3D. The others will prematurely wear your MT. gun. Item 3D will not.

Tim


Item 3D.....300 gr. Speer J.F.N. (1200 fps / M.E. 959 ft. lbs.)

Per Box of 50
$59.99

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buzz meeks
November 9, 2004, 08:51 PM
Thanks for passing along the info, Marshall. I also have a 25-13 and bought it knowing it's not the equal in strength of the Rugers. But what it lacks in strength it makes up for in portability and grace. And just because it does not have the Ruger's brute strength does not leave the gun lacking. If we take BB at their word, a 300 grainer at 1200 fps is still nothing to sneeze at. My own preference is for hard cast and this winter I will work up some loads using a home cast LBT-style Lee bullet that drops at 320 grains. I only need 1000 fps and should have no problem doing that within the Smith's strength limits.

Jason Demond
November 9, 2004, 08:53 PM
If you have to pay $59.95 for a box of ammo, you may want to take up handloading.

If you need more power, go with a magnum cartridge.

JNewell
November 9, 2004, 09:01 PM
300 gr x .452 x 1200 fps makes a pretty potent load. There isn't much you can do with a handgun that this load won't do, at least in NA.

Marshall
November 9, 2004, 10:22 PM
If you need more power, go with a magnum cartridge

.44 Mag Winchester 250 gr. SupremeĀ® Partition Gold: 1230 fps 840 ft. lbs.
$23.90 box of 20

.45 Colt Buffalo Bore 300 gr. Speer J.F.N.: 1200 fps 959 ft. lbs.
$59.99 box of 50


Smaller diameter bullet, 50 gr. less bullet weight, 119 ft lbs less energy, same money. Where is the Magnum better?

Jim March
November 9, 2004, 11:19 PM
Note that Marshall's gun is a fairly late-model S&W N-Frame 45LC. That's why it can take the 300 @ 1200 load. Some older S&W N-Frame 45LCs *cannot*.

I don't recall exactly which revision beefed it up. Basically they switched the 45LC guns to the same heat-treat as the 44Magnum N-Frames; at some time in the past there was a huge strength difference between them.

Marshall doesn't have to worry about this, but others reading this thread should be aware of the issue.

Marshall
November 9, 2004, 11:26 PM
Jim,

Thanks for adding that. I put in the exact description in my question to Buffalo Bore for that very reason because, I don't know what newer/older models have what strenght.

Good point!

Marshall

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