Super Sniper in 10X or 16X


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Sactown
November 9, 2004, 10:39 PM
So I'm looking to re-glass my 700PSS. I'm going to give the TASCO Super Sniper a try. What do you all think, should I go with the 10X or the 16X? For now most of my shooting is limited to 100yards because of the ranges I frequent, but I may go further out later. I'm set on the SS so please refrain from the , "Get brand X, instead" I'm more interested in which power y'all think is ideal.

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theCZ
November 10, 2004, 12:52 AM
I've found that I can shoot acceptable groups at 300 yards with my leupold vxII on 9 power with my CZ527 .223. Acceptable groups being 1.4" at that distance. I can clearly see ground squirrels at that distance, but I'm upgrading anyway because I want to go out a little further. 10x works, I can barely make out 22 cal bullet holes at 100 yards with 9x, but larger caliber I can see pretty easily. 16x might move around too much if you are prone without a back rest, but 10x should be manageable for almost all situations.

Fumbler
November 10, 2004, 01:38 AM
If all you're doing is punching paper then I'd go with the 16x.
If you're going to use it for hunting I'd go with 10x.

10x is adequate for the great majority of shooting situations (too much for most hunting), the extra 6x is just icing on the cake for paper shooting.

That's my opinion.

Wildalaska
November 10, 2004, 02:11 AM
Get a Leupold :neener: :evil:

WildshortanswerAlaska

Badger Arms
November 10, 2004, 02:43 AM
As Ken said, you can't go wrong with a Leupold. Resale value, product saturation, durability, optics, everything else. As for which power? I think if you want a fixed scope, don't go higher than 10x. Also depends on your eyes. I like an 8x scope, but my eyes are good currently.

I read your warning against my suggesting brand "X", but the problem is you didn't say you wanted a Burris or Pentax or Millet, you actually admitted you wanted a Tasco. My advice, spend the extra money... spend at least half as much on the scope as you do on the gun especially if you intend for the gun to be used for accurate shooting at extended ranges. My Target rifle sports a Vari-XIII 3.5-10x by 50mm scope.

Trying to resell that 'SuperSniper' scope will be more of a chore than selling a Leupold. It's like a Mercedes vs. a Hyundai. Sure they both go 'vroom' and you can compare size, acceleration, features, etc. In the end, you'll get more bang for your buck with Leupold. I can place a good bet on the fact that it will last longer.

Fumbler
November 10, 2004, 03:12 AM
Get the SS just to smite all the Leupold lovers ;)

Smoke
November 10, 2004, 07:38 AM
I have one of the SS scopes in 10x.

I truely beleive this may be the best scope I own. Out of Leupolds, Nikon, Pentax, and a bunch of cheapo scopes best left unmentioned.....I love that Super Sniper. Tough, dependable, clear. Great deal.

Smoke

Kermit911
November 10, 2004, 07:51 AM
Go with a Leupold VERY VERY Good Scope :D

Master Blaster
November 10, 2004, 09:09 AM
Take a look at the Bushnell elite 3200 10X, Its a good scope with a lifetime warranty, a mildot recticle, great target turrets and excellent optics. I really like mine, and they are around $200.

theCZ
November 10, 2004, 11:37 AM
I'd hate for this to turn into an argument over scopes. I used to be one of those "LEUPOLD LEUPOLD LEUPOLD" guys...Until I got a Nikon. I'm never buying a Leup. again, my guns are going to have Nikon Monarchs on them. I've really liked the quality of Nikon optics, especially during low light conditions.

R.H. Lee
November 10, 2004, 11:40 AM
I have an SS 10x with a mildot reticle mounted on a Savage 10fp that works well for me. I'm not experienced enough with the mildot system, however, to make a judgement as to how it works at 16x.

Smoke
November 10, 2004, 12:06 PM
Don't confuse the Tasco SS scope for the typical Tasco crap.

The SS is a far superior scope.

Smoke

hksw
November 10, 2004, 12:51 PM
When you do get your SS, be sure to get it from a very good reputable source. I got a 20X for my converted 10/22M to .17HRM. Very nice but after about 80 rounds of .17, the reticle listed to the left by about 10-15%. Found it a bit unusual as the TSS is said to be .50BMG proof. I though I was really boned as it occurred in the transition era of when Tasco went under but before Bushnell bought them. Contacted SWFA, who I got it from, via e-mail and they gave me a new one (after I sent back the broken one). Its gone through a couple thousand rounds now without any problems. Optical quality is there (for the price you pay) and the controls are pretty good (big fan of the Leupold M1-type turrets) but that first failure will always be in the back of my mind.

Also, the first SS had mushy turrets. The new one was as expected with positive clicks.

To balance my experiences, I did have one of my older (~12/13 years) Leupold VariX-III 6.5-20X40 fail. Could not get the crosshairs to move at all, even the entire travel length of the (both) turret adjustments. Sent it to Leupold and was fixed.

Wildalaska
November 10, 2004, 02:18 PM
I used to be one of those "LEUPOLD LEUPOLD LEUPOLD" guys...Until I got a Nikon

Bet ya aint gonna hear one of the US army snipers saying that :)

WildtheresthebestthentherearealsoransAlaska

Sactown
November 10, 2004, 03:16 PM
Get a Leupold
DOH!! (beats head against wall).
I already have 3 Leupolds, 3 Weavers(Grand Slams offer exceptional optics), an IOR Valdada, and a Bausch and Lomb among my scopes.

I'm going with a SS10X and TPS 30mm rings and 20moa base. Already ordered my rings and base from the nicest lady working at TPS. Thanks for the suggestions everyone...even the Leupoldatics.

theCZ
November 10, 2004, 05:16 PM
Bet ya aint gonna hear one of the US army snipers saying that

Bet you ain't either gonna hear US Army snipers asking what scope is the best deal for your money either.

Red_SC
November 11, 2004, 08:10 AM
Good choice, I have a very similar setup. I have a 16X SS on my PSS, and would rather have the 10X. The 16X is great for paper, but I won't carry it in the woods any more. In September I killed an 8 point with a 15X Weaver on it, and the deer very nearly lived because of the scope (low light situation). I wouldn't mind using a 10X for hunting, though.

I initially tried to get the TPS base, but I needed it in a hurry and it was backordered, so I ended up with the Farrell. I'm still planning on getting the TPS rings, though. That should be a good setup when you're done! And, don't worry about the resale value of the SS, it holds it's value well. ;)

Mute
November 11, 2004, 01:28 PM
If it's for the range only, either will do. For field use, the 16x will give you very limited field of view at closer distances. It won't be as practical.

MAUSER88
November 11, 2004, 02:00 PM
If it's for the range only, either will do. For field use, the 16x will give you very limited field of view at closer distances. It won't be as practical.

100% correct, that's why I bought the 10x and mounted it on my RRA NM AR15. :)

Jim Watson
November 11, 2004, 02:27 PM
Shooting with high-end variables, I seldom if ever set the power higher than 12-14X no matter how steady the rest or clear the target. A friend got me to try F-class long range, and my old 3.5-10X on an even older '06 set all the way up was plenty of magnification of bullseyes at 600 and 1000 yards.

Range of adjustments was another matter, so I too am considering a SS vs the Bushnell 10X (lots of adjustment and less money but no parallax adjustment) vs a Leupold 4.5-14X PR (higher price but enough adjustment, side focus, and variable power.)

Gewehr98
November 11, 2004, 04:13 PM
I've competed against them out to 1000 yards. Those F-class guys are using them more and more. I've got Leupolds, Weavers, and Sightrons on my long-range rifles, but if I ever assemble another gun and need a scope, I will probably buy one of the SS variants from SWFA. I'd keep mine at 10x, because fighting mirage at greater magnifications can be no fun at all.

Bet ya aint gonna hear one of the US army snipers saying that

True, but U.S. forces are also running U.S. Optics scopes ($$$$), Unertls, and that silly Navy contract (#N00164-93-C-205) procured more than a couple 10x42 Tasco scopes, later known as the Super Sniper series.

Black Snowman
November 11, 2004, 04:25 PM
Against paper, even at 100 yards, I could tell a differance in my shooting between 12x and 14x. Ended up getting a cheapo 6-24x scope for punching paper. If I need a "working" scope. It's going to be a Loup or Burris.

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