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Gixerman1000
November 11, 2004, 06:09 PM
I was lurking around the democratic underground and found this, you have too read all the replies, they just get better and better.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=2666835&mesg_id=2666835&page=

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R.H. Lee
November 11, 2004, 06:16 PM
Why are leftists as a group completely unable to articulate ideas without psychotic-wild-eyed-foaming-at-the-mouth-spittle-flying hatred and anger?

El Tejon
November 11, 2004, 06:20 PM
The Left discovers the Second Amendment?

It's about time! :fire:

White Horseradish
November 11, 2004, 06:22 PM
Eeeexcellent, Smithers. The plan is working, once they get heir hands on guns, they won't be able to resist... </Mr. Burns voice>

30Cal
November 11, 2004, 06:28 PM
I could care less as long as they aren't felons. I've been trying to get them out to the range for years.

(but what White Horseradish wrote was what I was really thinking! :D )
Ty

Cacique500
November 11, 2004, 06:58 PM
Eeeexcellent, Smithers. The plan is working, once they get heir hands on guns, they won't be able to resist... </Mr. Burns voice>

LMAO!!

What they don't realize is that we're not afraid of them getting guns. We already have guns (lots of them) and know how to use them (effectively). What's funny is that once they start down this road THEY become US :neener:

SMLE
November 11, 2004, 07:06 PM
From the DU "rules" page. Am I the only one who see the irony of these two sections? :barf:
WHO IS WELCOME ON DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND, AND WHO IS NOT

We welcome Democrats of all stripes, along with other progressives who will work with us to achieve our shared goals.

This is a "big tent" message board. We welcome a wide range of progressive opinion. You will likely encounter many points of view here that you disagree with.

We ban conservative disruptors who are opposed to the broad goals of this website. If you think overall that George W. Bush is doing a swell job, or if you wish to see Republicans win, or if you are generally supportive of conservative ideals, please do not register to post, as you will likely be banned.

If you have been banned from Democratic Underground, you are not permitted to log on again using a different username. Previously banned members will be immediately banned, regardless of behavior.

People who repeatedly and willfully break the rules, or who generally engage in rude, antisocial behavior, will be banned. It doesn't matter if you are a progressive or a long-term member of this board.


BIGOTRY

Do not post racist, sexist, homophobic, ethnic, anti-religious, or anti-atheist bigotry. Unambiguous expressions of bigotry will be deleted, and will often result in the immediate banning of the individual responsible.

If it is not clear whether a comment is bigoted, we will generally give the benefit of the doubt and assume the least-bigoted interpretation. However, individuals who repeatedly post borderline-bigoted comments will be considered bigots and will be removed.

When discussing race, gender, sexual orientation, ethnicity, or religion, please exercise the appropriate level of sensitivity toward others and take extra care to clearly express your point of view. This will help avoid misunderstandings and undeserved accusations of bigotry.
:barf:

R.H. Lee
November 11, 2004, 07:10 PM
They forgot:
"LEFTIST bigotry is allowed, even encouraged, however, in keeping with the basic tenet of hypocrisy that has allowed us to come so far." :rolleyes:

Wildalaska
November 11, 2004, 07:24 PM
Anybody dare me to do a group buy on there?

Wildfeelslikebeingash*tstirrerAlaska

R.H. Lee
November 11, 2004, 07:27 PM
That's a great idea, Ken. Register as "LeftyinAlaska" or sumpthin'.......dare 'ya :neener:

adollarisadollarevenifitcomesfromleftists

lee n. field
November 11, 2004, 07:37 PM
Anybody dare me to do a group buy on there?

Everybody chant together:

"Do it.

Do it.

Do it."

:D

BondageJaguar
November 11, 2004, 07:40 PM
Alaska, do it XD. Set up a group buy for Browning Buckmarks or something (would have said Ruger MKIIs but Mr. Ruger hates guns)

BondageJaguar
November 11, 2004, 08:17 PM
By the way, notice how they all talk about gays in the third person? Kinda makes you wonder if any of them have ever met a gay person, or a minority for that matter. They seem to think that being different is a big deal, while most conservatives and Libertarians I know just shrug and say 'so what?'.

Vern Humphrey
November 11, 2004, 08:17 PM
Why are leftists as a group completely unable to articulate ideas without psychotic-wild-eyed-foaming-at-the-mouth-spittle-flying hatred and anger?

Don't tell me, let me guess.

Because leftists ARE wild-eyed-foaming-at-the-mouth-spittle-flying psychotics who are consumed with hatred and anger?

Did I get it right? :D

SB88LX
November 11, 2004, 08:24 PM
Doooo It Doooo It. :cool:

patentmike
November 11, 2004, 08:26 PM
Not Brownings, S&Ws are made in Mass., a legacy from when their state was sensible.

Daniel964
November 11, 2004, 08:37 PM
I Double Dog Dare You To Do It.

Dave R
November 11, 2004, 08:44 PM
WildAlaska, I Dee-Double-Dog-Dare ya.

Sounds like you'd make some good money. For some reason, the DUng'ers like the idea of buying guns...

For those who don't care to read the thread, here are some choice nuggets.

-Guns are too expensive!
-No they're not, you can get a Yugo SKS and a couple boxes of ammo for $100 (a THR troll in disguise?)
-You can lots of rifles and shotguns for under $400.
-Is an SKS a machine gun? Lots of guessing about full auto vs. semi follow.
-Machine guns are too expensive! (lists current prices (another THR troll?)
-Wait a minute, gays should get guns! (Later someone refers to Pink Pistols and JFPO)
-Some discussion about 1934 NFA, and the paperwork required to purchase machine guns (no one mentions some states ban them.)

Standing Wolf
November 11, 2004, 08:46 PM
Anybody dare me to do a group buy on there?

Dare you, schmare you! Allow me, please, to point out it's your civic duty. Need some help?

BondageJaguar
November 11, 2004, 08:49 PM
I'm so helpful. :) http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2666835#

Wildalaska
November 11, 2004, 08:50 PM
Done! Their money is green too :)

WildcapitalismAlaska

Mr Jody Hudson
November 11, 2004, 09:26 PM
Wild!

We need a link to the group buy thread!!!! PLEEEEEEEESSSSEEEE. :D

Mr Jody Hudson
November 11, 2004, 09:30 PM
Ohhhh, I see you posted THERE while I was posting here I guess.

Go WILD go! :evil:

spacemanspiff
November 11, 2004, 09:37 PM
behave over there or they will ban you for being 'disruptive'.

SMLE
November 11, 2004, 10:08 PM
I'm so helpful. :) http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2666835#
I posted as well, under the name "Firerin". :D
I'm waiting to see what they have to say.

BondageJaguar
November 11, 2004, 10:08 PM
Surely you don't mean us? we took the highroad and only offered advice and our assistance :)

spacemanspiff
November 11, 2004, 10:17 PM
oh yeah, but in watching their forums the last week they have mods/admins that quickly ban and delete accounts of those who arent, how do they put it? oh yeah, progressive.

if they get an inkling you are not on their side of the tracks you'll be called a 'freeper', 'repuglican', 'rethuglican', and banned.

also, good intentions not withstanding, posting a link to their forums directly from within THR was illadvised. they can trace users back to where they came from. cutting the link and pasting it into your browser address bar from a different webpage would be better.

geekWithA.45
November 11, 2004, 10:32 PM
Do you think offering to TRAIN these folks would be misguided, or valuable?

My thinking is that a trained warrior takes note of his competence, and is accordingly less fearful, more cognizant of the risks and costs of any proposed course of action, and is therefore more predictable and less likely to do anything irrational.

Flipside, the whole "it will make them one of us" line of thinking may not hold true.

Thoughts?

one45auto
November 11, 2004, 10:50 PM
geekWithA.45 ,

My thoughts?

The kind of people who frequent the democratic underground are better suited (judging by thier posts) for the low road and I personally would be averse to giving advice to individuals who name-call and throw tantrums like spoiled children. Do we really want bitter and vengeful advocates of presidential assassination posting thier hatred of George Bush on these forums? Do we want posters who'll grasp at any straw and endorse ridiculous "tin foil hat" conspiracy theories to explain why thier candidate lost? Who'll encourage others to kill, or at the very least harm, those who disagree with them? Who will accuse dissenters of racism, sexism, and homophobia? Who'll threaten violence and encourage hatred against "repukes" - namely anyone they perceive to be to the right of Mao Tse Tung or Che Guevara? I certainly don't want that kind of company, and I doubt many others will either. We have our liberal members, certainly, but they are reasonable and intelligent individuals who do not engage in that kind of socialist insanity.

JohnBT
November 11, 2004, 11:46 PM
"behave over there or they will ban you for being 'disruptive'."

I was banned some time back and can't imagine why. As best I can figure I must have been talking out of the right side of my mouth. Now they're talking about buying guns and joining the NRA. Will wonders never cease.

John
N.R.A. Life Member

Vern Humphrey
November 11, 2004, 11:53 PM
"behave over there or they will ban you for being 'disruptive'."

I was banned some time back and can't imagine why. As best I can figure I must have been talking out of the right side of my mouth. Now they're talking about buying guns and joining the NRA. Will wonders never cease.

John
N.R.A. Life Member

Liberals celebrate all forms of diversity -- except diversity of opinion. And freedom of speech is something that they reserve for themselves, alone.

Dbl0Kevin
November 12, 2004, 12:02 AM
These morons never cease to amaze me. They actually think that if we see THEM buying up guns that we'll be so scared that WE will then want to ban guns!?!? They'll never realize that we are not afraid of guns no matter who has them. It's painfully obvious they think all they have to do is buy a bunch of guns and all of a sudden they'll turn into a Navy SEALs who can take on an Army by themselves. These people will no doubt let their newly bought guns sit in a closet somewhere and never train with them, IF they actually do buy them.

Sorry kooks but you've really lost it this time. Go ahead get guns and revolt against us horrible conservatives. I put my training and skills above yours without thinking twice. :neener:

Jeff K
November 12, 2004, 12:12 AM
A lot of those guys are nuts. I found this forum thru one of the posts that a THR member made on DU. I guess I'm one of those people who just 'got it' when it comes to gun rights.

Just to let you know, not all of us are what you've been told we were. Just because some guy on the radio or tv says liberals are :cuss: , and liberals are :cuss: over and over and over and over still doesn't make it true. I'm not here to discuss politics, and I'm not here to be some whipping boy for the Bush lovers among you. That's not why I'm here.

I hope to make use of this website to learn more about gun ownership. I just bought my first gun ever (I'm 36). Bought an SKS, crap I know, but I'll feel better having it. I'm looking for a shotgun that I can use for Goose and Duck hunting next. I've always borrowed one from my hunting buddy in the past. I'm hoping my time here will be informative.

Thanks to the THR member who posted the link to this site.

Dbl0Kevin
November 12, 2004, 12:24 AM
A lot of those guys are nuts.

Kind of hard to defend most of them when you start off admitting that a lot of them are nuts. Contrary to popular belief most of us conservatives don't sit on the edge of our seat listening to Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity and believe whatever they say about liberals without looking into it ourselves. I know personally I have read several threads on DU and they sickened me. People were cheering and calling for the death of US Marines who "wanted to die for Bush". Other people wishing al queda would hit the "red" states instead of the "blue" states. I guess it's ok to kill Americans as long as they're conservative? Sorry but that's a bit tough to swallow for me.

As for yourself, if you truly are here to learn about firearms and the like, welcome aboard. Unlike the DU we welcome all and will talk with open minds and have civilized debate instead of banning those who disagree with us. Maybe if you hang out here you're begin to "get it" on other things as well. ;)

SMLE
November 12, 2004, 12:27 AM
Welcome to THR! You will not be a "whipping boy" here. Folks may disagree with you, but they well tell you WHY, not just call you names and then ban you.

As far as the SKS goes, they're good little rifles for the money. welcome to the ranks of the free.

Once again, welcome!

geekWithA.45
November 12, 2004, 12:30 AM
Welcome, Jeff K.

Just to let you know, not all of us are what you've been told we were. Just because some guy on the radio or tv says liberals are , and liberals are over and over and over and over still doesn't make it true.

Fair enough. Just remember that's a blade that swings both ways, and that many of us here have arrived at our conclusions concerning liberals and the left because we've done our homework, and not because we're lobotomized zombies who believe everything we hear on the MSM.

Feel free to read, learn, and ask gun questions, and if you're not interested in discussing politics, that's fine, there's about a dozen other sections of this forum.


Gun question from me: whydja pick an SKS? What attracted you to it?

Jim K
November 12, 2004, 12:34 AM
I posted a reply under the same name I use here. Just told them some truth, that every gun law in this country was passed to prevent minorities or "low class" people from getting guns.

The first gun laws were passed in the South to keep ex-slaves from buying guns. The infamous Sullivan law in NY was passed to prevent Irish immigrants and opposition poll-watchers from being armed. GCA 68 was passed when the lily-white Congress saw all those blacks raising cain about the MLK killing and thought about those black hands with guns in them. The now deceased AWB was sponsored by Feinstein, not because of crime, but because she is terrified of the Mex gangs in Southern CA and LA.

And it has been "liberals" who make sure that minorities can't get guns; it is the "liberals" who are terrified that their "friends" might find out that the "liberals" don't care one whit about them except to get their votes.

Jim

scottgun
November 12, 2004, 01:02 AM
I read the thread over there, and no one responded to a logical line of discourse. A few well thought out and expressed posts - which of course doesn't fit their agenda, although I found one response that I shouldn't even copy and paste here because the liberal reponse to anyone advocating personal self defense is to compare it to a preoccuption with male genitalia. There NO getting through to them. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :barf:

motoman
November 12, 2004, 01:14 AM
some unfounded great fear of these evil thinks we call guns. I was thinking about registering over there, but its probably not worth it as i would be banned it about 5 minutes.
Why do they always compare guns and mens anatomy??? Are they scared of both?

Jeff K
November 12, 2004, 02:04 AM
Thanks for the polite welcome.

Welcome, Jeff K.
Gun question from me: whydja pick an SKS? What attracted you to it?

Price.

I was shopping for a shotgun and got discouraged with the high prices and somehow ended up on a website that had SKS's cheap. I went to a couple local stores and ended up at a place where the guy working there was a lot more helpful and a whole lot nicer than anyplace else I'd been and I bought one.

Just to help erase any skepticism, I used to work in talk radio. I was basically like Colmes is too Hannity. We used to get a lot of calls from guys who would explain their reasons for owning an SKS type gun. I used to think they were wacko. However a few days ago I had what some may call 'a moment of clarity.' It hit me like a ton of bricks, all at once I realised that those callers were right. I immediately started shopping and I ended up with my first gun.

Thanks again for the polite welcome.

Brian Dale
November 12, 2004, 02:06 AM
I just read that whole thread. First things first:

Welcome to The High Road, Jeff K! Pleased that you're here. I'll restate what was mentioned above: we care about people learning. I'll concur in something I infer from your post: my eyes glaze over in some of the political threads I've read, and I come here because of all of the shooters here who know more than I do about guns. Bought an SKS, crap I know, but I'll feel better having it.Many of us don't think they're crap, actually, and you'll find people in the "Rifles" forum who can tell you how to make yours perform at its best. You'll also wade (happily, if you're like I am about it) through a lot of comments along the lines of "I like mine - it's FUN!"

You wrote,I'm looking for a shotgun (etc.) ... I'm hoping my time here will be informative. Just wait'll you meet Dave McCracken. :D -and sm, and TrapperReady, and PJR, and HSMITH, and ... can't list 'em all. The rest of the folks who hang out in Shotguns.

Browse all you want, post all you want, and the only rules are pretty simple. From the way you write, I conclude that you're in the habit of treating people decently. You'll fit right in.

Now about that Dem Underground thread: as I mentioned, I just read the whole thing. They're being quite decent over there.

joe sixpack
November 12, 2004, 02:18 AM
Welcome, glad to have you aboard, enjoy.

As Jeff and many other liberals and democrats know the second amendment is not a right wing issue, but a right for us all.

cheers, js

jamz
November 12, 2004, 09:03 AM
Jeff K, welcome to The High Road! :)

Since no one has said it yet, Share what you know, and learn what you don't. :)

I hope you can share the common values we all have with your friends at the DU. The second amendment is there to protect all of us, not just people on the right.

Congrats on the SKS purchase, I'd like one myself one of these days. :)

-James

ZeroX
November 12, 2004, 10:53 AM
It'd make them shake in their boots, I'm telling ya. I know these people. They only like the idea of THEM being all gun-nutty.

:D :D :D :rolleyes:

Joe Demko
November 12, 2004, 11:07 AM
Landagoshin' but you guys just can't seem to get enough of visiting DU and then running back here to hold a ********** about what :cuss:s they are.

theCZ
November 12, 2004, 12:26 PM
Am I the only one that was suprised at the number of gun owners on the DU? I don't know if it's just me, but why do they think that us conservatives will be worked up by gay people buying guns? It's their right to do so and I'd have to say that I welcome anyone that wants to join the gun community. That thread might have a lot of wacko stuff on it, but I see an opportunity to convert some of these left wing nutcases.

corncob
November 12, 2004, 12:29 PM
and how much ammo am I allowed to buy?

Sheep with guns are still sheep.

White Horseradish
November 12, 2004, 01:07 PM
Sheep with guns are still sheep.


What about cows with guns (http://www.3dweb.no/galleri/stuestolbm/bilder/anim1.swf)?

MBane666
November 12, 2004, 01:20 PM
Somehow it figures that the gay Dems on DU have never even heard of the Pink Pistols, the largest gay self-defense group. We've used the excellent PP instructors in National Shooting Sports Foundation media seminars (once jerking the rug out from under a very biased NYT reporter!). I love their slogan: PICK ON SOMEBODY YOUR OWN CALIBER!

Plus, there's an interesting upside we noticed in the media seminars...teach an anti-gun person to shoot, and sometimes strange things start happening in their heads. They start thinking about empowerment, control and individual responsibility in whole different terms. Sometimes--not *every* time, but often enough--the act of learning to deal with a firearm shows them more about who we are than *anything* we could say.

So I say to all those gay members of DU, by all means, buy guns! Go to Gunsite or Thunder Ranch or the Firearms Academy of Seattle or Valhalla or even the Pink Pistols and learn to use those guns, laughing all the while about us no-teeth, grit-eatin', sister-marrying neo-con peckerwoods stupid enough to dig our own graves. Then, when they wake up one morning and discover that, maybe for the first time in their lives, they're not *living in fear,* have 'em give me a call!

mb

Mikul
November 12, 2004, 01:40 PM
I loved how the first dozen or so postings were about how they can hold a fund raiser to pay for the guns because guns are "expensive." Sheesh, is there anything that Democrats DON'T want somebody else to pay for?

I can't believe nobody told them that they will be 27 gagillion times more likely to kill some gay, female, transgendered, minority, foreign-born person than a criminal if they have a gun in their home. :D

cslinger
November 12, 2004, 01:51 PM
There are quite a few interesting folks over there and frankly they give me a headache and remind me of ignorant, spoiled little children. I cannot and will not believe those folks are representitive of the Democratic party. I have met many liberals/democrats who are intelligent, well spoken, friendly etc. We just simply don't agree. Boy it's good to be an American and disagree.

Anyway welcome to Jeff K. You have a PM.

Chris

Halffast
November 12, 2004, 02:49 PM
and I'm not here to be some whipping boy for the Bush lovers among you.

Jeff,

You may find quite a few of us here that don't like Bush. Personally, he is way too liberal for me!

David

Wildalaska
November 12, 2004, 03:06 PM
Jeff unlike DU, you can pretty much take any political position you want here, very few subjects are taboo...

You will probably learn that THR has one of the lowest a**hole ratios of any Board on the net...we have our share of looneys too, but then again there are normal (relatively) people too (hopefully I am one)....:)

WildasheepAlaska

Black Snowman
November 12, 2004, 03:09 PM
Welcome aboard Jeff K. I recently purchased an SKS and it's one of my funnest rifles.

I don't like either of the major parties because neither one recognizes all of our rights. But I sided with Bush because if the people are armed the government is more likely to listen to the will of the people. Backed with force the voice carries. Disarmed it makes that same voice a nuisance to be eliminated by those in power.

If the people retain power, then we don't have to resort to violence to correct the errors of our government. If we give up our power, we have no choice but revolution.

alarmguy
November 12, 2004, 03:13 PM
Welcome to The High Road! I lurk over at DU on occasion and just noticed I haven't heard from Mr. Benchley in a while. He usually posts in the gungeon. Do you know what's up? I hope he's OK.

cslinger
November 12, 2004, 03:39 PM
I haven't heard from Mr. Benchley in a while. He usually posts in the gungeon

Now there is a guy you just love to hate. Gotta love that guy, he sure doesn't budge on his ideals no matter how much the facts get in the way. I don't lurk often but I have read a great many of his posts and he gives me a headache. He falls into my buy him a beer, agree to disagree and find something else to talk about category.

Seriously though I don't wish any ill will and I too hope he is ok.

Chris

Silver Bullet
November 12, 2004, 05:00 PM
Sell them Glocks and Thunderware Holsters.

:evil:

Mr Jody Hudson
November 12, 2004, 05:54 PM
There have been very few politicians I can agree mostly with since Washington and Jefferson... Since then most politicians seem to think the primary enemy is our Constitution and after that US.

Jeff K. :) Welcome to our little forest of soapbox speakers!!! :) I hope you find this to be a comfortable and rewarding place to visit as often as you wish! :D

spacemanspiff
November 12, 2004, 06:14 PM
Have you looked at the werenotsorry site? those folks are armed to the hilt and all it would take is them getting the bright idea that "hey, libs aren't armed, right? We own most of the guns right? Elections, smelections, let's round em up!"
And if you are a repub (I'm not accusing, btw)- please tell Sarah Brady to go back to your party where she belongs. She's the biggest Trojan Horse the modern era has seen. Begs Dems for gun control legislation while still belonging to the repub party and campaigning for its candidates. Geesh.

:neener:

spacemanspiff
November 12, 2004, 06:33 PM
found another post in another one of their forums. a thread was started announcing the opening of a chapter of the Pink Pistols, and a moderator locked it, stating the following:

2. I think this topic has run its DU course.

3. The group supports a candidate for President that is NOT John Kerry.

4. If there is concrete evidence the group supports Kerry then we'll have some Pink Pistol threads, without it, I don't see how this supports DU's mission of unselecting Bush*.

basically, it appears as if they only want to hear from Pink Pistol members that would vote for Kerry, not libertarian. how quiant and elitist, hmmm?

spacemanspiff
November 12, 2004, 06:36 PM
all kinds of good stuff over there!

As if I am a minority. The world agrees with me. The UN Agrees with me. And a lot of democrats too.
See, the problem is after 1994 alot of dems are afraid to piss off the NRA, man, is the democratic party that weak? CERTAINLY NOT!
The reason why nothing gets done is people like you. We must stand together as democrats against guns. With a united front, we can keep these monsters off our streets.
Bolts and pumps can be fired almost as fast as a semi-auto. You can fire a bullet per second! A BULLET PER SECOND! In one minute you can kill an entire small town!
I hate it when you act as if John Kerry is some gun-nut. He's smart, he knows we only need hunting rifles, and for hunting you only need single shot rifles. I don't want to ban all guns, you can have bolt-action rifles!!!! That's enough to plink and hunt with. Your rights will not be violated!!

wasrjoe
November 12, 2004, 06:36 PM
DU is a freaking hellhole. Any place that bands you for differing even slightly in opinion is no place I would want to visit. Why should I care what they have to say? I can just read their "mission statement" and be done with it.

Dave R
November 12, 2004, 06:43 PM
Sell them Glocks and Thunderware Holsters.

Ouch. Silver Bullet, that was mean.

Intune
November 12, 2004, 06:48 PM
Everyone is welcome here and you will get some of the most diverse opinions on the planet. The MANNER in which the opinions are stated is the big diff. That, and the fact that one can be polite and still be banned for an opinion on a website speaks volumes as to their mindset "over there." Opine away AND have fun doing it!

Matt G
November 12, 2004, 07:08 PM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=2666835&mesg_id=2676859&page=

The vast majority of gun owners and sellers in this country are not bigots as you suppose them to be. Unlike you most don't label people and would be very happy to sell you a firearm providing you are legally allowed to purchase one. A business is built to make money. By buying a firearm from them, you are supporting the business.

So why don't we try to keep the prejudiced comments at a minimum. Shall we?

Personally, I wish more people would exercise their right to own a firearm. To understand that right is to understand the underlying principles of our country and it's Constitution. The Second Amendment was written to keep our government from getting any wild and crazy ideas. Or at least acting on them.

Bigotry goes in more than one direction, no? ;)

ZeroX
November 12, 2004, 07:10 PM
Sell them Glocks and Thunderware Holsters.

:evil:

You vicious cretin.

...I love it!

BryanP
November 12, 2004, 07:15 PM
but then again there are normal (relatively) people too (hopefully I am one)....:)

WildasheepAlaska

Normal? You? Someone call Spiff, WA's off his meds again. He's having delusions of normalcy. :neener:


Not unlike my occasional delusions of adequacy. ;)

spacemanspiff
November 12, 2004, 07:19 PM
ya aint kidding! one of WA's subordinates had to give him a refresher course in how to fill out the yellow form!

plus i notice he hasnt mentioned SWMBO in a while.

i'm starting to get worried. :uhoh:

Jeff K
November 12, 2004, 07:46 PM
COSMOLINE?

Did anyone tell Jeff about it?

A guy I work with told me little about it. He was off today so I need to get him over here and show me how to get this stuff off.

Brian Dale
November 12, 2004, 09:30 PM
With gloves and ventilation. ;)

There have been a lot of threads here about that, too. If you go up to the top of this page and click on "search," then enter "cleaning cosmoline" (without the quotation marks), you'll see several that will give you some more background information.


EDITED TO ADD: Sorry about the thread drift, folks. :)

joegerardi
November 12, 2004, 11:39 PM
With gloves and ventilation. ;)
EDITED TO ADD: Sorry about the thread drift, folks. :)

Quite right. We have a new gun owner here who just happens to be a liberal. So be it, that's his constitutional right. I think this thread should steer back towards it's original intent, we welcome a new gun owner, and because he's a self-professed newbie, move this thread in a more constructive direction, by guiding him towards cheap ammo, tips and tricks, accessories, etc.

I would try myself, but I don't own an SKS, and know little about them. I limit my military long guns to US-made.

Welcome Jeff! As is custom here, when you take it to the range, we would all appreciate what we call a "Range Report." That is, tell us how *it* shoots, tell us how *you* shot, and your overall impressions of the gun, the range, and your experience. We all do it whenever we get something new.

..Joe

Stickjockey
November 13, 2004, 12:21 AM
Hey Jeff, welcome! Whereabouts are you? Maybe we've got someone in the area that can get you pointed in the right direction, ammo- and range-wise.

Oh, yeah--new guy buys the ammo! :neener:

Sven
November 13, 2004, 01:02 AM
I'm driving 300 miles this weekend to pick up my Yugo SKS... it's in great shape and has a book logging the times and dates it was fired - pretty cool.

I'll be cleaning Cosmoline off the metal with that Slip 2000 725 degreaser recommended on another thread www.slip2000.com

Kevlarman
November 13, 2004, 01:05 AM
Hey look, the liberalswithguns.com website is using one of Oleg's pics!

Sven
November 13, 2004, 01:06 AM
Jeff K: Welcome!

I'm driving 300 miles this weekend to pick up my Yugo SKS... it's in great shape and has a book logging the times and dates it was fired - pretty cool.

I'll be cleaning Cosmoline off the metal with that Slip 2000 725 degreaser recommended on another thread www.slip2000.com

Also got a case of ammo from www.ammoman.com ... also Yugo. ;) The new Wolf polymer stuff is great too. I get that stuff at www.outdoormarksman.com

Let us know how it works out for you - and be sure to clean off all the grease (inside and out) before shooting! Some links you might already have:

www.thehighroad.org ;)
http://www.surplusrifle.com/sks - best SKS site
http://www.simonov.net/ - major SKS site
http://will.mylanders.com/shot/sks/ - SKS Disassembly
http://www.murraysguns.com/sksown.htm - SKS firing pin improvement
http://www.mnmpublishing.com/kivaari/index.asp - SKS triggers
http://users.cableaz.com/~mjbvrb/ - Yuko SKS Survey


;)

Greg L
November 13, 2004, 08:45 AM
Jeff,

First welcome.

Second, I haven't seen it specifically mentioned in this thread so I'll toss it in. When you are cleaning the bolt on your SKS make sure that the firing pin rattles freely (you don't need to tear that assembly down completely, just soak it in mineral spirits or boil it in water for a while). Chances are that nothing would happen if you didn't do a good job cleaning. However Murphy is out there looking for a place to pop up :D . With the SKS if there is gunk around the firing pin it can get stuck with the pin out. When that happens you suddenly have a fully automatic rifle that won't stop until you are out of ammo. Not good when all you were expecting was one BANG per trigger pull.

SKS' are great sturdy little rifles & ammo is cheap enough that you can really get to know yours. Have fun.

Greg

BryanP
November 13, 2004, 08:49 AM
I started looking at some of the gun-related threads on DU. I even gave in to the temptation to register and post a few apolitical responses.

I actually registered and posted on DU.

I feel so ... dirty.

klover
November 13, 2004, 11:30 AM
Sven and others would do well to do a THR search under the guns they just acquired.

Learn how hot water or sun will remove cosmoline better than anything. Also, work up the round count in the SKS when you take it to the range. If doesn't go full auto slam fire mode (sks has killed shooters this way) on mags loaded several times with 2 or 3 rounds, then work up to 4 or more rounds.
Use a sling wrapped around your left arm; muzzle climb for your head will be restricted. I always use a sling on all long guns.

Good choice on one fine design rifle!

The political slants give me a good chuckle. Promoting gun ownership can only benefit us all.

Sindawe
November 13, 2004, 12:23 PM
Hey look, the liberalswithguns.com website is using one of Oleg's pi


Yep, they sure are. I wonder if they got Oleg's sign off on using his work.

Jeff K, welcome to THR! The more folks who own and shoot firearms the better! :)

13A
November 13, 2004, 01:04 PM
More people owning guns makes gun control less likely.

More people buying guns and selling them because they only "wanted to make a point" drives down the price of seldom (or never) fired guns.

If the lunatic, leftist fringe decides to USE those guns for something silly (like being upset over a fair presidential election)....well, society will be safer once they are dealt with.

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