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fedlaw
November 16, 2004, 10:24 PM
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-041114gunbill,1,7239933.story?coll=chi-news-hed

Lawmakers override veto, approve bill protecting gun owners

By Christopher Wills
Associated Press Writer
Published November 16, 2004, 6:19 PM CST

Rejecting the governor's veto, Illinois lawmakers overwhelmingly voted to give new legal protection to homeowners who use a banned handgun to shoot burglars.

The House voted 85-30 Tuesday to override Governor Rod Blagojevich's veto. The Senate had approved the bill earlier, so it now becomes law.

The legislation applies only in specific and uncommon circumstances, but it became a symbol in the tug-of-war over gun control.

The bill's supporters saw it as a statement of support for the basic concept that people should be able to defend themselves in their own homes. Opponents viewed it as an attempt to undercut local gun laws.

It was inspired by the case of Hale DeMar, a Wilmette restaurant owner who shot a burglar who had broken into his home twice. County prosecutors declined to press charges for the shooting, but Wilmette officials charged DeMar with breaking the city's ban on handguns.

Under the new state law, someone who shoots an intruder on his or her property could not be convicted of violating a local gun ban. The new law does not, however, prevent state charges if prosecutors believe the shooting itself was a crime.

Blagojevich, a Chicago Democrat, vetoed the bill earlier this year, arguing it would encourage people to defy local gun laws. There was no debate Tuesday in the House, but the bill's supporters say people forced to defend their home should not then be put through the trauma of facing charges.

"I think the General Assembly shut down the governor's hunting season on homeowners,'' said Todd Vandermyde, a lobbyist for the National Rifle Association.

About half a dozen Illinois cities, including Chicago, ban handguns, according to the Illinois Council Against Handgun Violence.

The council's executive director, Tom Mannard, said he was disappointed by the veto override. He called it a dangerous overreaction to a single incident.
Copyright © 2004, The Associated Press

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El Tejon
November 16, 2004, 10:30 PM
Incredible! Amazing! What an astounding victory for RKBA!

For those of you who have never resided in Illinois, this is an earthquake! To override a veto, to even pass a law such as this IN ILLINOIS is a tribute the the momentum that RKBA supporters have built.

The effect of local gun bans (Chicago, Oak Park, Morton Grove, inter alia) is now feckless. One less reason to worry when I visit Chicago (yes, yes, 99 ways to die, but now one fewer). :D

Remington788
November 16, 2004, 11:08 PM
It's about time we received some good news for gun owners here in Illinois.

Now if we could just get CCW.

fedlaw
November 17, 2004, 12:19 AM
Chi. Trib., when IL. Gov. Alfred E. Blago vetoed this proposed law: "If this becomes law, local communities will no longer be able to ban handguns."

Chi. Trib. today: "This will have no effect on local handgun ordinances."

These are not direct quotes, but you get the idea. With fair and unbiased repoting like this, how can we go wrong?

Standing Wolf
November 17, 2004, 12:23 AM
He called it a dangerous overreaction to a single incident.

I'm sure he'd have felt otherwise if it had been his house broken into, his life threatened.

psyopspec
November 17, 2004, 01:10 AM
:)

Edmond
November 17, 2004, 01:30 AM
I'm sure he'd have felt otherwise if it had been his house broken into, his life threatened.

He probably has armed guards 24/7 like Richie Daley and Blago. :rolleyes:

sticks
November 17, 2004, 01:43 AM
Hopefully "Step 1" will eventually lead to the replacement of Blagojevich with a governor for the people of Illinois, rather than one serving his own self interests as we have now.

Edmond
November 17, 2004, 01:53 AM
Hopefully "Step 1" will eventually lead to the replacement of Blagojevich with a governor for the people of Illinois, rather than one serving his own self interests as we have now.

They need to get rid of Daley too because he has too much influence on areas outside of Chicago. Oh yeah, they should get rid of Daley for Chicago's sake as well. He's been mayor for longer than I care to remember.

Remington788
November 17, 2004, 05:27 AM
I don't think Daley will have to worry about not being mayor anytime soon what with all those dead people voting for him. :eek: :neener:

Blago, on the other hand, is most likely a one hit wonder since he doesn't even try to keep his own party happy. I know people who are die hard democrats that hate this guy. :cuss:

I also think Chicago should be turned into the fifty-first state. It could be called Northwestern Illinois, aka Chicagoland. :evil:

erikm
November 17, 2004, 03:10 PM
I don't think Daley will have to worry about not being mayor anytime soon what with all those dead people voting for him. :eek: :neener:
Is it possible to recall a state or local official under Illinois?


I also think Chicago should be turned into the fifty-first state. It could be called Northwestern Illinois, aka Chicagoland. :evil:
I'd support calling it the Chicago Metroplex. Incidentally, I can imagine quite a number of states where portions would really really like to grant statehood to urban areas. NYC, Chicago, Los Angeles and San Francisco are probably the most likely.

Cheers,
ErikM :evil:

mack69
November 17, 2004, 05:01 PM
This is good news for us here in the land of Linclon....but we still can't get complacent about our 2A rights etc. We need to keep up the momentum and roll over these anti's like a freaking tank on the roads in iraq.
I have always referred to Illinois as Illicago...more truth to that name....As long as daley is in chicago the governors post will also be run from there.....

Swamprabbit
November 17, 2004, 05:12 PM
From you neighbor to the south, I congraduate you folks in IL for this victory! It is a shame that Chicago, and East St. Louis, dominates your state's politics but I guess that its no different than with NY or CA. In any event, looks like an outbreak of common sense has occurred and lets hope that Daley, who seems to be immune to that condition, doesn't "find a cure".

Jeff White
November 17, 2004, 06:04 PM
Swamprabbit,

East St Louis has a small enough population that it has almost zero effect on state politics. The few represenatives they have pretty much just blend in with the Chicago crowd. Madison and St Clair County, while almost totally democrat, produce downstate legislators who normally vote the way the rest of downstate does.

Jeff

RangerHAAF
November 17, 2004, 06:26 PM
Hats off to the people of Illinois, you've started to roll. I thought there was no hope for you but it seems that common sense has prevailed for now. Get ready for a big anti-gun show down with Daley and Blagojovich. They're gonna come out smoking but I think you might be able to get concealed carry within the next election cycle.

Anything's possible; I thought that Republican control of the Georgia legislature was gonna happen within the next 1-2 election cycles but the voters and politicians moved that timetable up faster, the same thing might be getting ready to happen in Illinois.

tyme
November 17, 2004, 06:26 PM
Blagojevich, a Chicago Democrat, vetoed the bill earlier this year, arguing it would encourage people to defy local gun laws.
Why is that a reason to veto? Either Blago or the journalist left out a crucial step in the logic there...

LAR-15
November 17, 2004, 06:43 PM
Excellent news!

:)

X-out
November 17, 2004, 06:47 PM
The Illinois Supreme Court will weight into fray over the Peoples Republic of Chicago's efforts to destroy financially gun manufacturers and dealers with a couple of opinions scheduled to be released tomorrow (Thurs, Nov. 18)--Young v. Bryco Arms and City of Chicago v. Beretta. :)

Keep up the good work, guys and gals.

charby
November 17, 2004, 07:48 PM
Still not ever going to move there.

Growing up I could see the shores of Illinios from the promise land (Iowa) across the mississppi river. Funny thing about my hometown (Burlington) is that we have a park called Crapo Park and aimed at Illinios is a pair large naval cannons as a memorial to WWII. As a kid in the early 80's we used to pretend we were shelling the commies to East, kinda funny how close to the truth that is.

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