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shermacman
November 17, 2004, 04:15 PM
Wanna look into the mind of a Liberal? Here it is, guns, hyper-activity, John Wayne syndrome, and the best part: guns on their SUV's roof racks! Choose your barf bag!

By: BRIGID BRETT - For the North County Times

http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2004/11/17/news/columnists/brett/21_16_2311_16_04.txt

It's 2 a.m. Except for the occasional cry of a coyote, the night is deeply silent. The rest of my family is asleep, but I'm lying here wide awake, thinking about guns. I'm thinking about how, when I lived in Los Angeles for 15 years, I knew nobody who owned a gun ---- not even those who lived in rough neighborhoods. And how, here in this peaceful rural enclave of Valley Center, almost everyone around me has at least one firearm.
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Most people tell me about the Second Amendment and their inalienable right to bear arms. They talk about the Founding Fathers and the Constitution.
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Sometimes they like to remind me that guns don't kill but people do.
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None of this makes much sense to me. I've lived in North County long enough to see that many men here in the land of big boulders and horse ranches have Wild West fantasies. This is, after all, John Wayne country, the place where real cowboy and Indian games were played out. There's a little bit of a Texas mentality in Valley Center ---- if people could get away with driving around with guns on their roof racks, I have no doubt that many of them would, even if there was no logical reason for it.
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By 3 a.m., I'm wondering when there'll be another Columbine or Santana High massacre. I'm also wondering why President Bush, who cares so deeply about eliminating weapons of mass destruction around the world, should care so little about eliminating the weapons of destruction right here on our own soil: semiautomatic assault weapons. Will I ever get any sleep?

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Vern Humphrey
November 17, 2004, 04:18 PM
The solution to her problem is simple. She should quit whining, pack up her trash and move back to Los Angeles.

Old Dog
November 17, 2004, 04:23 PM
(sound of retching)
This woman perhaps has a deep-seated anxiety disorder if thinking about legally owned firearms keeps her awake all night ... Wonder how she'll deal with having one of those coyotes kill a house pet or some of her livestock ... she'll probably call a government agency and demand that it remove all the problem coyotes from her area.

Hard to believe she lived in L.A. and knew no one who owned guns. Guess L.A. folks don't talk about their guns the way those evil North County residents do ...

El Tejon
November 17, 2004, 04:29 PM
Please have consider North Korea! First-class free health care and first rate gun control.

I will drive her to the airport. :)

Justin
November 17, 2004, 04:35 PM
Good.

I hope that exercising my civil rights causes her no end of heartburn.

squadfounder
November 17, 2004, 04:52 PM
It would be interesting for her to take a look at statistics of gun crimes in LA vs North County. But she won't, for that would topple the house of cards that her irrational fear is built out from. After all, an armed society is a polite society.

Robert J McElwain
November 17, 2004, 04:58 PM
She would probably feel much safer if she moved to England or Australia where, according to the law, there are no guns.

And if anyone believes that England and Australia have no guns, I've got a brand new bridge I'd like to sell them.

Also, there was no drinking of "Demon Rum" during Prohibition.

Bob

TimRB
November 17, 2004, 05:07 PM
"I've lived in North County long enough to see that many men here in the land of big boulders and horse ranches have Wild West fantasies."

I've seen this sort of statement so many times I've lost count.

Gun grabbers are the ones with the fantasies. They invariably think that the presence of guns equals a return to Matt Dillon's Dodge City (itself a much exaggerated fantasy). Hell, she herself called a place where almost everybody owns a gun a "peaceful rural enclave".

Tim

joab
November 17, 2004, 05:12 PM
And how, here in this peaceful rural enclave of Valley Center, almost everyone around me has at least one firearm. But yet none of them go out a kill anybody People must just raise their guns right in the country

JohnBT
November 17, 2004, 05:15 PM
"if people could get away with driving around with guns on their roof racks"

Roof racks?

DigitalWarrior
November 17, 2004, 05:56 PM
I invited her to go to the range with me. I think it might make an interesting article.

HEiST
November 17, 2004, 06:09 PM
That woman more than likely has had some intelligent DNA in her body..

until she got rid of it.

Wingshooter
November 17, 2004, 06:17 PM
Most important, in the days of the Founding Fathers and the Wild West, there wasn't an epidemic of ADD, OCD, hyperactivity and depression among teenagers. Suicide wasn't the second-highest cause of death among teenagers after car crashes. And homicide wasn't the third. Instead of playing adrenaline-pumping video games like Grand Theft Auto for hours on end, boys tired themselves out chopping wood and hauling water.

This in itself would make an interesting thread. She seems like a very odd woman. Probably very difficult to talk to, but infinitely easy to talk about.

thefitzvh
November 17, 2004, 07:05 PM
No one bad mouths me and gets away with it.

I'm drafting a letter (I am a North County gun owner)

James

Standing Wolf
November 17, 2004, 07:19 PM
Wanna look into the mind of a Liberal?

I don't have a microscope. Sorry.

thefitzvh
November 17, 2004, 07:41 PM
My letter to the editor...

I'd like to comment on Brigid Brett's recent article on North County gun owners. After all, I am one.

I'd like to educate Brigid on some of the reasons I own weapons, as well as dispel some of the logical fallacies in the article "Why North County owns guns."

My two most prized weapons are my Mosin Nagant Model 1891/30 bolt action rifle and my Russian SKS. The age and history of these weapons are the reason I own them, as I am a bit of a military buff.

The final gun I'd like to tell you about is my Winchester 1300 defender shotgun. This weapon is a safeguard against the rash of break-ins and shootings in my neighborhood. It will effectively handle any ruffians who decide to enter my home. I'd rather not give the ruffian 15-20 minutes to kill me, which is about how long it would take for the police to arrive.

Now, let's address Brigid Brett's article.

I won't even go into the "John Wayne" comment, because this is a nasty stereotyping of gun owners by Brigid. She should do a Google search for the "Pink Pistols," it may help her be rid of her prejudices.

The point I want to address is your ridiculous assertion that the second Amendment is invalid because " in the days of the Founding Fathers all firearms were single shot and took about a minute to reload for the next shot. "

By that logic, the government should be able to censor your column, because the Founders didn't have the internet, or large scale newspaper distribution. Should the freedom of religion be restricted for televangelists? Should the right to a fair trial be nullified because of the advent of DNA evidence and videotape?

Briged has no business asking why Americans own guns. The so called "assault weapons" ban failed, and that's after President Bush said that he would sign it if it came across his desk? Why did it fail? Because gun control has been a proven losing way to combat crime. Just ask the CDC, they did a report saying the same thing.

I'll also remind you that the Columbine shooters had already committed NUMEROUS federal firearms crimes before the first shot was fired. Would stricter regulations have stopped them?

Instead of mindless fear and stereotyping, why don't we try to solve the social problems BEHIND the crime. Making it illegal for me to own a weapon does not prevent a lowlife from using one to murder me.

James Fitzer
Human rights supporter (ALL of them, not just the ones I agree with.)

bobby68
November 17, 2004, 07:52 PM
Hello, i'm new to this website and also a new gun owner. I look forward to meeting you all.

About this lady in the newspaper, i did a search on her and it looks like she's some kind of writer for the paper. Probably a wantobe professional journalist. I usually try to avoid trashing people but i can't stand people who distort and condescend.

I do hope somebody gets resopnse though. Does anyone know what the political leaning of this newspaper is? Here in San Luis Obispo our biggest paper, The Tribune, is left leaning and i hate it.

Nice to meet you all.

thefitzvh
November 17, 2004, 08:00 PM
Welcome, bobby.

I don't know about the "lean" of the NC Times, but It seems to me they aren't too bad.


Cheers. What kinda gun didja get?
:)

Andrew Rothman
November 17, 2004, 08:07 PM
In 2000, in Los Angeles County, over a thousand people were murdered.

Almost 89,000 people were robbed, raped or (Aggravated) assaulted.

(http://www.fedstats.gov/mapstats/crime/county/06037.html)

Riverside County, with all of its scary guns, has a much lower rate.

(http://www.fedstats.gov/mapstats/crime/county/06065.html)

Hmmmm.....

Gordon Fink
November 17, 2004, 08:10 PM
[M]y Winchester 1300 defender shotgun … will effectively handle any ruffians who decide to enter my home.…

I won’t even go into the “John Wayne” comment, because this is a nasty stereotyping of gun owners by Brigid.…

The first of the two quoted paragraphs probably explains the reference decried in the second.

I know what you meant, Fitz, but I can also see how it reads to someone like Ms. Brett.

~G. Fink

thefitzvh
November 17, 2004, 08:12 PM
The first of the two quoted paragraphs probably explains the reference decried in the second.

I know what you meant, Fitz, but I can also see how it reads to someone like Ms. Brett.

~G. Fink

A desire to defend oneself does not make one John Wayne.

Gordon Fink
November 17, 2004, 08:22 PM
I know that. It’s the way you said it that will confirm Ms. Brett’s opinion about gun owners’ “Wild West fantasies.”

~G. Fink

thefitzvh
November 17, 2004, 08:42 PM
Point...

Oh well. Not like she would have seen the light, anyways.

STW
November 17, 2004, 08:47 PM
What a twit. I'm a resident of North County too and a past resident of LA County. I owned guns in LA county and own more guns in North (San Diego) County. No cowboy guns. (on the list) My cowboy fantasies revolved around my grandfathers 150K acre Wyoming cattle ranch when I was six, not around Valley Center, home of orange and avocado groves. I believe she's confusing being self sufficient with being a cowboy. I suspect some nice doctor will eventually find a drug store to help her sleep.

I feel much safer here than I did up in LA.

(BTW - The North County Times is not much of a newspaper even if they have published letters I've written.)

Gordon Fink
November 17, 2004, 08:51 PM
Oh well. Not like she would have seen the light, anyways.

Unfortunately true. :(

~G. Fink

Moparmike
November 17, 2004, 08:55 PM
*fires off hastily written email to Oleg about requiring disclaimers for such articles and those that may be eating while reading them*



































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