[macarthurite]

Has anyone had any experence with a EAA Witness in .45ACP?

[orangeninja]

Yes...if they feel good in your hand and you break it in, it will be one of the most reliable and accurate .45's out there. The have got a SWEET DA trigger pull once broke in. For CCW they are a little heavy. Heck ask Armoredman, he carried one for years.

[JohnKSa]

I had one for awhile. Very accurate and reliable.

It put firing pin wipes on the primers and I could never cure the problem. Also, if you get too much lube on the safety, you can squeeze it off by pulling the trigger hard.

[Jubei]

Reliable and comfortable to shoot. For some reason, my best weak-hand groups were with my Witness .45ACP.

Jubei

[Ash]

I like mine. The blued finish isn't the most durable and the wonder finish can discolor at times, but my full size has been utterly reliable (never a failure to feed, fire, or eject). I had a compact once which was a jamomatic, but I sent it back to EAA and they fixed it up. Before I sold it, it was jam free as well.

Ash

[armoredman]

Actually, I carried a Witness 40 for 13+ years. Great pistol, never gave me a moment trouble. Unfortunately, a desperate situation causes it to be shipped out tomorrow to a new home....
The ergonomics of the Tanfoglio/CZ grips is what got me interested, and I never looked back. I have had 6 Witness pistols, and all of them gave excellent service. I now carry a CZ PO1, and the wife a CZ 2075 RAMI, but nither one of us would hesitate to carry a Witness pistol again.

[macarthurite]

Thanks for the help, I just have one more question. Can the Witness be carried cocked and locked or does the first shot have to be double action?

[mrstang01]

They can be carried cocked and locked, I didn't on mine because the safety is not particularly positive.

[molonlabe]

I probably wouldn't do that since mine has the smoothest DA pull of any firearm I own.

Also, if you get too much lube on the safety, you can squeeze it off by pulling the trigger hard.

Never noticed that but I will check it.

[ranburr]

I always carried mine in condition one with zero problems. This gun in shockingly accurate, especially when you consider the relatively cheap price.

ranburr

[macarthurite]

Well now I dont know what to do :confused: I went to my local gun shop that a friend of mine owns to order the .45 Witness, but he told me he had very bad luck with the witness guns and would'nt recommend them. So now I'm not sure if I order it or maybe a Taurus 100 in .40, advice please. :)

[dfariswheel]

This is the standard situation:
One person says something is great, another says it's total junk.

The Tanfoglio guns have been around for a good number of years.
Tanfoglio was the actual maker or the supplier of the basic parts for almost ALL the CZ-75 "clones", including the Swiss Action Arms AT series, the FIE, the TZ series, the Springfield P9, the Israeli Baby Eagles, EAA, and several others.

The general consensus on the EAA/Tanfoglio guns is: Quality of the guns is good, value for price is great, and service department is slow and surly.

Most people report no real problems and the few who do, usually get it fixed without too much trouble.

In these cases, you listen to the advice, and make you're own decision.

Ya pays yer money, and ya takes yer chances.

[stans]

I agree with Dfariswheel. You have to remember that all manufacturers turn out lemons, but most of EAA's guns are good. They do lack polish and are likely to need the feed ramp smoothed. Rough feedramp seems to be the number one complaint.

[marklbucla]

One person says something is great, another says it's total junk.

That may be true either way, but it's all relative. It'd be a major POS if one paid $1500 for it, but at $339 like I paid for mine, it's a decent deal considering the CZ97B is in the $550 range.

I eventually sold mine for no better reason than I didn't want to pay the higher costs of feeding it. I guess I could say that it was big in my hands, but the real issue was the cost of ammo.

I was really happy with the way it shot. Recoil was definitely manageable and I don't think I've had a single failure that wasn't my fault. It fed hollowpoints fine, but the promags didn't work well with it. It seemed to cycle "slowly" with them in there compared to the factory mags.

[PCRCCW]

You have to remember your on the INTERNET :what: and youll get all kinds of comments.......but I think your gunstore is wrong.

Ive been the CZForum admin for a long time.....clones are included in our little forum.....heres what thousands of Witness/Clone owners say about them......

The most common complaint about them is the 10 mm Compact and its hit and miss reliability. The fullsize guns have some problems with the 40S&W but the 45 fullsize is one of the most reliable guns you can find. Its by far and away the favorite among tanfoglio owners........

You are talking about the maker who makes more out of the box Champion grade
guns for IDPA and IPSC than any other maker in the world. Tanfolgio does know what they are doing.............

Shoot well.........make up your own mind.

[WESHOOT2]

Had my 45 for years; utterly unreliable regardless of ammo used but SO stinkin' accurate I couldn't bring myself to sell it.

Put a 38 Super long-slide top end on it (one of those great features) and suddenly it turned into a 100% reliable super-accurate (I mean friggin' uncanny) 38 Super.

Sold THAT top to finance a Redhawk collection, so back on with the 45 ACP 'standard' top end.

Been working with it this last year (off-n-on) and it's grown more reliable (ejector worn down?); enough so that I've even returned it to occasional IPSC duty.
Still working on it.......

I have three Witness frames, and every caliber except 22LR and 10mm (and, of course, no more 38 Super), but I still love my Tanfoglios.

EAA service?
Tried talking to them in the mid-'90's, but since just went the 'smith route.

[Lennyjoe]

I had a Taurus PT 100 for years and used it as my 1st CCW pistol. A reliable pistol in my eyes.

Little on the big size for IWB, but I had no problem carrying it in a belt holster.

[armoredman]

Fratelli Tanfoglio has been making guns for a very long time, but still doesn't import under thier own distinguished name. Go figure.
I never had any feeding or accuracy problems with any of the six I owned, and if it weren't for $ problems, would still own 5 - gave one to my brother. Jerk sold it two weeks later.....
The Tanfoglio design has sometimes been referred to as "CZ Improved", as there are fewer parts, and the safety will work in both DA and SA positions. I have NEVER heard of a Tanfoglio made safety slipping off due to lube or any other reason. If yours is doing that, you need to get it replaced immediately. None of mine ever did that, and I had to keep that area well lubed due to IWB carrying, sweat caused rust, etc. That was BEFORE I got that excellent HBE IWB holster, though.....darn I am going to miss that rig.
If you buy a Tanfolgio 45, all I'd reccomend is having a 'smith polish the feed ramp, just for grins.
Good luck! And don't forget, if you buy a Witnes, you need two things -
1) Hakan made custom wood grips - http://www.imageseek.com/hakan/
and,
2) Custom holster by Eric - http://www.imageseek.com/hbeleather/

Have fun!

[JohnKSa]

Tanfoglio made safety slipping off due to lube or any other reasonI didn't say it "slipped" off.

[Bobarino]

i've fired a few hundred rounds through one. Like Alduro, i wouldn't want to CCW with it, but its a great accurate pistol. high grip with a sort of beavertail and heft makes recoil pretty mild. i've seen some really good deals on them before at local shops and shows. it'd be a fun range gun or a good home defense gun in my opinion.

Bobby