Springfield SOCOM-16 long range accuracy


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carebear
November 23, 2004, 06:20 PM
OK, I searched several forums but haven't found info yet. I recently bought a SOCOM 16. It groups fine at 100 but I hear from one of my gunstore guys that the rate of bullet drop is fairly quick and pretty extreme at 3-500 meters.

Who's rung it out over a hundred and what kind of drop are you getting with mil-spec ammo?

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30Cal
November 23, 2004, 06:36 PM
It groups fine at 100 but I hear from one of my gunstore guys that the rate of bullet drop is fairly quick and pretty extreme at 3-500 meters.

That's basically true for any non-magnum rifle between .284 and 8mm. They're flat to about 300yds, then start dropping after that. The SOCOM would be a little moreso because of the muzzle velocity that you've given up (~200fps?).

Ty

carebear
November 23, 2004, 07:03 PM
What I heard was several FEET at 400 or so. That seems like a lot more than just a couple hundred FPS should cause.

If I am remembering correctly the .308 should still be within a foot poa/poi at that range, it being a solid 800m cartridge and all.

:confused:

30Cal
November 23, 2004, 07:49 PM
The standard come-up for an M14 from 300 (battle zero) to 600yds is ~13 clicks--which is a little over 6 feet.

Ty

nipprdog
November 23, 2004, 08:39 PM
a 308 zeroed at 100, will drop 2-3 feet at 400, depending on load.

punch some numbers here;

http://www.norma.cc/htm_files/javapagee.htm

jimmyp50
November 23, 2004, 08:41 PM
a .308 150 grain bullet out of a 16 inch barrel is probably traveling at only 2200 FPS, about as fast as a 30-30.

carebear
November 23, 2004, 08:56 PM
Thanks all and sundry. That's a lot more drop than I figured. Been too long since I've shot distance I guess.

Andrew Wyatt
November 23, 2004, 08:58 PM
a .308 150 grain bullet out of a 16 inch barrel is probably traveling at only 2200 FPS, about as fast as a 30-30.


you're within 600 FPS of being right.


most of the data says 26-2700 FPS out of a 16 inch barrel.

nipprdog
November 23, 2004, 10:35 PM
data from NRA Rifleman test;

150gr----2700fps

168gr----2500fps

Master Blaster
November 24, 2004, 09:41 AM
What kind of 5 shot groups do you get at 100 yards with your SOCOM???

Thanks

carebear
November 24, 2004, 03:56 PM
A couple inches but I was just BZO-ing it at the time.

It was cold too. You can begin inserting your own favorite excuses here. ;)

spacemanspiff
November 24, 2004, 04:04 PM
what say you bring that SOCOM out to rabbit creek saturday morning? i'll be burning up whatever ammo supplies i have left (read: i'm broke and have only enough .22lr to keep me busy for any amount of time). though i might have to spring for some .223, just because.

the cantankerous ol coot (oops i guess i should be nice to him, considering he is feeding me tomorrow) the nice hirsute fellow and i plan to be at the range when it opens, 10 am. last weekend for shooting there until after new years.

carebear
November 24, 2004, 04:47 PM
Well, since I apparently can't control my schedule well enough to actually make plans, let me just say I will do my best.

I'll plan on bringing .308, .45 and 9.

carebear
November 24, 2004, 04:50 PM
Ya know Spiff, thinking about your planned Thanksgiving, it's kind of an inspiring throwback to the first one.

You have a religious minority and a Native American joining together for food and fellowship in a harsh and wild land.

God Bless America!

Just don't sign any treaties brother! ;)

spacemanspiff
November 24, 2004, 05:07 PM
the plan is i'll pretend i'm a shaman and he pretends he's a moyle.

anyone know what a moyle is? i cant find it in the dictionary....

carebear
November 24, 2004, 06:40 PM
You need a Yiddish dictionary. :D

Maybe Babelfish has a yiddish/goyim translator?

Gandalf
December 2, 2004, 03:09 PM
jimmyp50 a .308 150 grain bullet out of a 16 inch barrel is probably traveling at only 2200 FPS, about as fast as a 30-30.
Nice job Jimmy! Where'd you pull that stat out of? If the SOCOM had a 14" barrel would it have the same velocity as a pellet gun?
:neener:

BryanP
December 2, 2004, 03:42 PM
spacemanspiff,

I believe it's spelled Mohel. (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=define%3A+mohel&btnG=Google+Search)

Just don't let him near you with a knife. ;)

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