Garand scout...possible?


November 23, 2004, 11:07 PM
I've got a long list of goodies I want. One is a Garand in 308 and one is a Scout rifle. I had considered going the Enfield route or ordering from Scoutman for the Scout. But then I got to thinking (trouble there). Could someone get the Garand rebarreled with a short 308 and add a synthetic stock for weight savings.

I know this may be blasphemy but I am also buying an original in '06 so put the ropes down.

What do you think the out come would be like? It violates a few of the scout rules but seems like an interesting idea to me.


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50 Shooter
November 23, 2004, 11:14 PM
I think there was some "tanker" Garands made, finding one might prove to be a problem.

November 23, 2004, 11:17 PM
Anybody know of a good light synthetic stock? I looked at Brownells and saw a couple,

November 23, 2004, 11:32 PM
The Scout Garand has been done. Leatherneck on "Culver's Shooting Page" did it. He liked it a lot.

November 23, 2004, 11:37 PM
Do you have a link?

November 24, 2004, 12:04 AM
Gun Talk Forum (

November 24, 2004, 01:49 AM
A gunsmith named Roland Beaver also made "Scout" Garands, with "tanker" length barrels in .308 and forward-mounted scopes. Unfortunately I don't think I have any info on Mr. Beaver.

November 24, 2004, 02:03 AM
This is starting to sound like a possibility.

I could almost mark the scout rifle and 308 MBR off my list; or I could wind up kicking myself in the but for not getting a "real" one of each.

November 24, 2004, 02:53 AM
do it, then let me know how it goes.... I might just try it myself! :neener:

Tom C.
November 24, 2004, 10:18 AM
I have seen John Pepper's Scout M-1 Garand. It was a Tanker configuration with scope mounts mounted on the barrel, sticking through holes in the upper handguard. The scope had QD mounts. Cool setup. Worked well. Good luck.

November 24, 2004, 12:22 PM
A word of warning though. The "Tanker" Garands are very touchy when it comes to ammo selection, and tempermental to keep working properly. Just what I have read, no first hand experience. I'd go with one of the short M1A's from Springfield. You would have just about the same ammount of money in a Garand after you pay someone to make all the mods. And no warranty on the Garand.

November 24, 2004, 12:59 PM
If I were going to scope a "tanker", I'd just use the mount from Fulton Armory. No need to do goofy mods to the handguards that way.

The problem with "tanker" Garands, from what I understand, is finding one done by a smith who knows what he's doing to get it right.

November 24, 2004, 04:23 PM

Also been done as the Farnam Defensive Rifle (

He charges a pretty penny for them, but the idea is cool.

I believe one of the above-mentioned cats also used a folding stock for the BM-59 on his (scopeless) semi-scout.

I'm still tempted to go the short-Garand route (though I think I'd stick with the stock sights), but have been so frantically busy with work, grad-school apps, and raising hell that I haven't gotten a chance to take my CMP rack-grade Dane out to the range. Man, it's depressing to think about...

November 24, 2004, 07:17 PM
Instead of the Garand, I'd go with the M1-A. Hmmm, looking for a picture, and it seems Springfield sells one already. Kinda steep, but maybe not more than setting up a Tanker Garand.

November 24, 2004, 08:49 PM
I have a shortened .308 M1 (18" barrel), and I've been thinking about putting a scout scope on it. I've also considered getting a synthetic stock, but I'm not sure if it's really the best way to go. The weight of the wood stock really helps the rifle's balance, at least for me.

El Rojo
November 27, 2004, 12:01 PM
In the November 20 Shotgun News the Numerich Corporation ( has tanker conversion kits for both .30-06 and .308 for $225. When you go to their website, search by item number.

.30-06 td881490
.308 td881500

November 27, 2004, 12:49 PM
Since my eyes are well over the hill, can't see the sights on my M1. Have been thinking about the Docter (sp?) red dot sight (Tasco made one similar) to replace the rear sight.

By making a block that fastened with special screws between the receiver ears (through the holes for elevation and windage knobs), the red dot sight would replace the rear sight and not interfere with regular clip operation. This would require no alteration to the rifle so it could be restored to original configuration easily.

Anyone know if this has been tried?


November 28, 2004, 09:14 AM
Go to

They will be releasing a scout rail for the Garand. I have one like this on my Mini-14. It is awesome.

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