P99 or wait for P2000?
10-Ring
February 28, 2003, 04:26 PM
Ever since I tried out a P99, I've been wanting to pick one up. Skunkabilly, however, tells me that I should wait for the new HK P2000 because it will match the rest of my HKs better :rolleyes:
Has anyone here had experience w/ both? Should I wait?
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fatboyclone
February 28, 2003, 05:42 PM
HK is notorious for loooong waits, so i wouldn't go holding my breat for a P2000. on the other hand, if your luck is like mine as soon as you buy the P99 the P2000 will come out the next week.
incursion
February 28, 2003, 06:11 PM
P99; there are standard caps available
Plan-B
February 28, 2003, 06:39 PM
Get the P99 now. Then when the P2000 is available, get the P2000. Problem solved.
David S
February 28, 2003, 06:50 PM
Get the P99............dont waste your time or money on the p2000, just a copy of the P99.........
Schuey2002
February 28, 2003, 07:01 PM
Let's see.. I had a Walther P99 and sold it..
Likes...
It Looked awesome
It was 100% reliable
It was easy to field strip
It was easy to shoot well
It felt great in my hand ( like it was custom molded)
The loaded chamber indicator
Interchangeable backstraps
Interchangeable front sights
All the controls worked flawlessly
Came in a cool handgun case with molded foam inserts
Dislikes...
Decocker button on the slide was an awkward reach for this lefty.
The factory sight weren't very good
The DA trigger was well, horrible ( I didn't have the patience to wait until it got better) The DA trigger pull was loooooooong.
Bottom of the trigger would bite the "edge" of my trigger finger
That ski ramp thingy under the trigger..
The high price of factory Hi caps.. ( $100 each, OUCH!)
Again, these are just my personal observations, you results may vary.
I'm going to wait for the P2000... and wait ... and wait.:rolleyes: ;)
10-Ring
March 1, 2003, 01:38 AM
Here's another option. I can get another USPc and have Bruce Gray do one of his trigger jobs on it....hmmmmm :scrutiny:
I wonder if I'll make up my mind before the P2000's get into CA?
arinvolvo
March 1, 2003, 02:10 AM
Well....consider this...it is a posibility that the introduction of the P2000 may lower the price of the P99...so maybe you should wait...who knows.
Robert inOregon
March 1, 2003, 02:52 AM
Well....consider this...it is a posibility that the introduction of the P2000 may lower the price of the P99...so maybe you should wait...who knows.
Quote from RSR on a HK P2000 is $809 (wholesale!). Don't think any competitor has anything to worry about.
arinvolvo
March 1, 2003, 03:10 AM
Well then...desregard my last post.:D
Schuey2002
March 1, 2003, 03:14 AM
Heckler & Koch should really rethink their prices on these things.:scrutiny: Wow, $809 wholesale is crazy. You can pick up new USP twotones (both the USPc .40 & USP 9mm fullsize) at CDNN for $629.00!!!
Heck, used USP's (in excellent condition) can be found starting at $399.00.:rolleyes: I might just pick up a used USP as a beater HK and hold off on the P2000 for awhile..
I still can't get over the $809 wholesale price of the P2000..:barf:
David S
March 1, 2003, 01:01 PM
seriously? what is so great about the gun? i mean , to me , its the best looking gun that HK has made........but thats because its a p99 copy..........whats the deal? is it a laser gun?
10-Ring
March 1, 2003, 04:15 PM
:what: $809!?! I might have to rethink that....
Schuey2002
March 1, 2003, 04:48 PM
Just imagine.. You can snag up a H&K USP .45 Tactical from Bugs- N-Bullets for a little over $850!!!
I might just go with the Tac and get a P2000 when the prices start to fall..:uhoh: :banghead:
Skunkabilly
March 1, 2003, 05:34 PM
C'mon guys did you expect them to keep costs down when the P2000 has that gold firing pin in it and gold-reinforced polymer frame? :D
Man I hope it doesn't sell for that high.
MoNsTeR
March 1, 2003, 09:20 PM
I wouldn't believe that price figure, unless H&K already has enough police and military contracts for this thing that a commercial flop could be shrugged off.
10-Ring
March 1, 2003, 11:37 PM
[sarcasm mode on] Maybe the P2000 really will be the replacement to the P7M8 and it's just adopting their pricing structure [sarcasm mode off] :D
Skunkabilly
March 2, 2003, 01:05 AM
...and lack of availability? ;)
modifiedbrowning
March 3, 2003, 06:09 PM
Get the P99, why pay twice as much for a pistol that has copied many of the P99's features? If you think P99 decocker is odd, the P2000 decocker is silly.
Schuey2002
March 3, 2003, 07:20 PM
If you think P99 decocker is odd, the P2000 decocker is silly.
That is why I would get a DAO "LEM" model..;)
10-Ring
March 3, 2003, 07:23 PM
Yup, if I could get one w/ the LEM & the light trigger w/ shorter reset, I'd be a happ(ier) camper :D :D ;)
Trabuco
March 5, 2003, 01:04 PM
I handled the P2000 extensively at the Shot Show. It has the absolute worst trigger pull of any handgun that I have ever
held. Felt like 20 pounds! I was planning on getting a P2000 to go along with with my P99- not anymore!
10-Ring
March 5, 2003, 03:13 PM
THe LEM I have had occassion to use & shoot was more than acceptable.
Schuey2002
March 5, 2003, 03:18 PM
[thinkin' out loud]
I thought that the "LEM" could be had in 4/or 4.5 lb. (?) trigger pulls..
I could live with that quite happily..;)
10-Ring
March 5, 2003, 03:39 PM
What Trabuco might be referring to is the heavy '2nd strike' trigger. That does leave something up for Bruce Gray's attention :)
Skunkabilly
March 5, 2003, 04:34 PM
Trabuco, (are you in Orange County?) what variant of P2000 did you play with?
Trabuco
March 5, 2003, 04:40 PM
No, I am in Central America. I am not really sure of the variant
number, as I am not an H&K expert, but it was a DAO version.
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