Where to get decently priced 30/06 FMJ?


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Dbl0Kevin
November 28, 2004, 07:24 PM
Ok my CMP garand isn't even here yet but I'm already itching to get some ammo for it. The only decently priced stuff I've seen is the bandoliers of Korean ammo from CTD, but I'd rather not have corrosive ammo if all possible. I've seen some Milwall over at TheOutdoorMarksmen for a not too bad price but that's about it. I know you shouldn't fire full hunting loads in a garand, so where do you other garand guys get your ammo and what do you buy? :confused:

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borderguy
November 28, 2004, 07:31 PM
Keisler's ad on page 87 of the Nov 10 Shotgun News has Russian 145gr 30-06 at $1.99 for a box of 20.

musher
November 28, 2004, 07:36 PM
Get your ammo at the CMP as well. Genuine USGI or federal 150 gr commercial.

Dbl0Kevin
November 28, 2004, 07:40 PM
Keisler's ad on page 87 of the Nov 10 Shotgun News has Russian 145gr 30-06 at $1.99 for a box of 20.

:what:

Does Kesler's have a website?? (I can't seem to find one) I'd be all over that for $1.99 a box!!

George S.
November 28, 2004, 07:56 PM
I agree with musher!! The CMP ammo is Lake City Arsenal USGI stuff and 980 rounds is delivered to your door for $230.

If you want good Korean milsurp, get the PS headstamped ammo. It is non-corrosive and will work just fine in your M1. It's important to use military ammo in the Garand as powder in commercial loads burn faster and will cause excess gas pressure and can easily bend an op-rod. I've used the Korean PS ammo from Miwall and it works just fine.

The KA headstamp ammo is corrosive but cleaning with hot water or even Windex with ammonia immediately after shooting is all you need and then do a regular cleaning later. It's also a good way of getting a supply of enbloc clips and bandoleers.

Here's a site with some good M1 ammo info: http://www.100megsfree4.com/airground/ammo/ammo.htm

GunnySkox
November 28, 2004, 08:16 PM
http://www.ammoman.com/webstore_3006.htm

145 gr Russkie ammo, 220 bucks for 1,000 rounds.

150 gr Federal, 225 for 500 rounds.

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Say also, at the top of your lungs, "Free shipping! Wheeeee!!"

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musher
November 28, 2004, 08:28 PM
I've been a bit leery of the Korean since I read the blurb about the kboom in the spring 04 garand collectors assoc journal.

The writer stated that barrel was usgi, but didn't specify whether the whole rifle was. Hard to say what his problem was, but he ran through 50 rounds of USGI before trying the Korean with no problems.

17 rounds of korean resulted in split (longitudinally) brass in 3 rounds, damaged bolt and broken stock.

For the comfort factor, I've been buying CMP or loading my own.

Dbl0Kevin
November 28, 2004, 09:05 PM
Say also, at the top of your lungs, "Free shipping! Wheeeee!!"

I would say it more enthusiastically if I didn't live in the same town not 3 miles away. DOH :uhoh:

Malamute
November 28, 2004, 09:49 PM
There is a thread on the surplusrifle.com site in the ammo section regarding the Korean ammo. One of the guys posting there has a link to more info also. The gist of it is that there was one lot of Korean that had a problem, the issue seemed to be a nick or scratch in the case when manufactured. There was apparently a similar problem with a certain lot us US military ammo a long time back.

I tried some of the PS ammo and liked it, so bought more. Mine came from aimsurplus. If you get more cans, the price and shipping goes down some. Mine cost about $85 per can delivered and came in a 50 cal can of 400 rounds.

ftierson
November 28, 2004, 10:50 PM
Also, remember that Cole's Distributing has new production FNM .30-06 M2 Ball equivalent (150gr, loaded with powder for correct M1 Garand port pressure), non-corrosive, boxer primed ammo for $219.99/1000. That's about as good as it gets. I think that this ammo is loaded for FNM in Yugoslavia or Bosnia.

Also, the CMP ammo is good stuff. Most is 1970s dated LC that has been delinked...

ftierson
November 28, 2004, 10:59 PM
Check out this link for the FNM ammo (including also 7.5x54mm MAS)...

Cole's (http://www.coledistributing.com)

The FNM .30-06 M2 Ball is on Page 8 of the ammo section.

RavenVT100
November 28, 2004, 11:54 PM
I have a batch of the USGI ammo from the 70s that I ordered from CMP. It runs through my Garand alright, but some of it has some dents and dings in the cases (I haven't used these yet). Should I get rid of them? How big of a dent is too big?

entropy
November 29, 2004, 02:16 AM
Kiesler's website is www.kieslersonline.com . That .30-06 price is per box for full cases, IIRC, of 145gr. Barnaul FMJ. While I've not tried the .30-06, I've shot the 7.62x54R, 7.62x39, and the steel 12 ga. with no problems. I have shot the Korean from an 03A3 with no problems, BTW.

Bridger
November 29, 2004, 11:09 AM
I have heard that the Russian made .30-06 is loaded too hot for the Garand.

I just ordered ammo from the CMP, I figure that's the best bet for quality.

Swamprabbit
November 29, 2004, 12:24 PM
I hear good things about the stuff Coles sells but my vote is to get the CMP stuff. It may cost you about $10-$20 more for a case to be delivererd to your door but you are supporting an outfit that is serving the shooting community VERY well!!!

RavenVT100
November 29, 2004, 04:25 PM
Another benefit of purchasing milsurp ammo from the CMP is the free ammo cans it comes in, which have intact rubber seals and can be reused for storage after the ammo has been expended.

Firethorn
November 29, 2004, 05:32 PM
I bought two cases of korean milsurp. 768 rounds a case, preloaded into bandoleers and clips. I've shot two bandoleers of the stuff without problem, while firing very quickly. I do look at the ammo first. :evil:

I started out with only one clip, now I have quite a few. No having to handle individual rounds either. Once I've shot that off, I'll look into getting more.

I've also shot three boxes of hunting ammo without problem. The one caution in my book is not to use ammo with over a certain grain bullet. It also has something about reloads, but me and my dad stay firmly within recommened ranges.

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